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So this is the situation:
I live in a flat for myself. In the same house there are like 5 other flats.
Im good with all my neighbours who Ive met so far.
During the last weeks there have been many occasions were you could hear a guy and his gf/wife shouting, hammering against walls , moving heavy objects, that sort of stuff. It's quite loud I have to say and it's often times for several hours (!!) and at like 2-4 AM wtf.
So I talked to some people and it looks like "we" know who those people are and attempts to talk to them from my neighbours seem to have failed.
Because I am writing exams this week, yesterday I put up a note on the entrance of my house:
+ Show Spoiler +
Translation:
"As I am writing exams this week , I would be grateful if the loud shouting and all the other noises after midnight could stop for a week. Thanks!"
See I even put a smiley there!
Today I received a call from my landlord, who told me that "that family will move out this week".
One of my neighbours told me that he had scanned my text and had sent it to my landlord, who was quite shocked.
I feel quilty for kicking somebody out of the house, I think they might even have a baby (because when the man starts to shout real loud , at some point theres always a baby starting to cry).
Obligatory question: Am I a dick?
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Not in the slightest, standing up for yourself and your other neighbours isn't dick at all.
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United States24615 Posts
No. They didn't need to be so damn loud in the middle of the night.
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Hong Kong9151 Posts
I'd say it's unfortunate, but you, yourself, didn't kick them out of their living situation. Don't beat yourself up over it.
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The neighbour that "scanned?" the text and sent it to the landlord is a dick, you were giving them a fair chance. I am sure everyone else is grateful as well though. Enjoy the peace and quiet(unless someone moves in during your study time). Also remember it might not have been the first complaint the landlord has heard about them.
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firstly quiet => quite. As in, "It's quite loud I hate so say" and "who was quite shocked."
Anyways, don't worry about it. Its definitely not your fault at all.
edit: quiet => not loud like the guy used in the post above me.
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I punch babies so I can't really judge you.
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No, you're not a dick. It's their fault they didn't drop the noise level when requested.
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No.
You can't be living next to people that keep you awake at night, not if it happens like clockwork.
If polite attempts to get them to stop don't work then they should just move to a place where they can be as loud as they need to be.
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First: fixed the spelling of quite, sorry dudes.
Second: Thanks for making me feel better. Only problem now is, they are REALLY fucking loud as we speak (seems like they are fighting about whos fault this is.) They live on the other end of the house, 1. floor, while I am third floor. I can understand what they are saying lol. Well it's just 9 o clock atm so Im not mad yet.
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No, it sounds like you made an attempt to ask them to keep quiet (When you live in adjoining flats/apartments you need to be cognizant of those around you, screaming and shouting in the middle of the night is being shitty people). And your neighbors all saw that and went "we should let the landlord know, since all of us want this to stop."
I'm not sure what kind of terms you signed your lease but there is probably a clause in there about undo noise or quiet hours during the middle of the night. So its quite possible that "family" was breaking the terms as well.
Maybe this will prompt them to break up and no longer scream at each other.
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na man your good, you didn't do anything lol. GL for your tests!
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United States32036 Posts
nah and I would have probably just called the cops
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It's just as much your living area as it is theirs, a reasonable request for peace and quiet after midnight is perfectly reasonable. Most people probably wouldn't have been as nice as you were.
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The neighbor who scanned the text is he never gave them the chance to correct their actions. Which you were offering them you did nothing behind their back you tried to solve the problem via them.
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Nothing wrong with your letter. I really liked the happy drawing of you sleeping 
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On March 06 2012 05:14 radscorpion9 wrote:Nothing wrong with your letter. I really liked the happy drawing of you sleeping
Thanks ! I practiced on an extra piece of paper.
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I don't think you were the bad guy but I feel like in situations like these it's always better to go talk to people directly instead of leaving notes. I know that you said the neighbors have tried to talk with them before and it didn't help but then I don't see how a semi-annonymous note would have been better. My guess is that they had it coming since you said the neighbors had already talked to them so I'm sure the landlord was aware of the problem. But yeah don't lose any sleep over it since that would be kind of counter-productive
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On March 06 2012 04:59 ReketSomething wrote:
firstly quiet => quite. As in, "It's quite loud I hate so say" and "who was quite shocked."
Anyways, don't worry about it. Its definitely not your fault at all.
edit: quiet => not loud like the guy used in the post above me.
1) The first letter of the first word in a sentence is capitalised.
2) Whereas "it's" is a contraction of "it is", "its" is a possessive pronoun.
I think asking your neighbours to be quiet for a while is perfectly fine, albeit that you should try to talk to them instead of writing a note. Also, "Geschrei" and "Lärm" easily render the message passive aggressive (which would make most people angry, which doesn't help you at all) so it's more sensible and more effective to actually talk to the people. Obviously they're not partying or anything, so it's not like they'd read your note and go "Oh, right, we totally should stop arguing about the future of our family and our financial situation because apparently there's a student who needs to pass an exam."
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Owfh, a smiley, really rubbint it in, ouch!!
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On March 06 2012 05:24 Dagobert wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 04:59 ReketSomething wrote:
firstly quiet => quite. As in, "It's quite loud I hate so say" and "who was quite shocked."
Anyways, don't worry about it. Its definitely not your fault at all.
edit: quiet => not loud like the guy used in the post above me. 1) The first letter of the first word in a sentence is capitalised. 2) Whereas "it's" is a contraction of "it is", "its" is a possessive pronoun. I think asking your neighbours to be quiet for a while is perfectly fine, albeit that you should try to talk to them instead of writing a note. Also, "Geschrei" and "Lärm" easily render the message passive aggressive (which would make most people angry, which doesn't help you at all) so it's more sensible and more effective to actually talk to the people. Obviously they're not partying or anything, so it's not like they'd read your note and go "Oh, right, we totally should stop arguing about the future of our family and our financial situation because apparently there's a student who needs to pass an exam."
I can see your point with "geschrei" but Lärm is like the perfect word for this situation and describes it 100%. AT least thats what I think.
Im not even sure why they were loud , if it was arguing or anything else. I chose to write a note because in my imagination talking to them wouldve been really awkward(+ I thought if my neihgbours tried it, why should it work when I do it). Maybe that's why Im having a bad conscience now.
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not even in the slightest. This is quite manner actually. Many people would have called the landlord or police to complain.
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I don't think you are being a dick in this situation. Your other neighbors scanning and giving the message to the landlord shows that there were other people who were having trouble with the loud neighbors and they used your note as supporting evidence to their complaints.
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It's not like they werent given a chance to stop it beforehand. Your letter just sealed the deal, it's not your fault ^^
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You are 100% not a dick, just a normal person that appreciates quiet. That's all.
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Thanks again, going to sleep now. WISH ME LUCK !
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Good luck on your exams!
P.S. You did the right thing =)
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Seeing as the family brought the nuisance to you, in an enjoining private residence where the expectation to privacy would be less than in 2 neighboring private homes separated by yards and a fence -- you were perfectly justified in your action (in my opinion it was even less of action than what you should have taken). As you already mentioned, the other neighbors had already tried to address the problem. As that had happened, the landlord did retain the right (as a clause in the lease) to evict residents for whatever the reasons are as stated in the lease agreement. The landlord was effectively looking out for the well being of ALL the residents in your building. As such, the landlord was justified as well in their actions.
In short -- not your fault, not your problem, don't feel guilty and hopefully those people learned something and the next new neighbor(s) won't be bad either.
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Don't let it get to you man. You definitely didn't do anything wrong.
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Ideally, I would have told those people directly, but if you put the poster somewhere they would definitely see it rather quickly, you were being very reasonable.
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One of those rare cases where there was zero fault from one party.
Good luck.
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United States5162 Posts
Your intent combined with the fact that you weren't the one to bring to the landlord's attention makes you not a dick. The only thing you could have done better would have been to talk to them directly. However, I think we can all agree that knocking on somebody's door to tell them they need to keep it down after midnight is a just a little bit awkward.
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No, it sounds like the landlord was shocked because of the repeating loud noises, not because of your kind letter. Aside from würde, feven, and sonstige, I could even translate it! 
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It's not your fault and if there was any percentage of it being your fault... the smiley face took care of that non-existing percentage.
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On March 06 2012 05:00 deathly rat wrote:
I punch babies so I can't really judge you.
wait what..?
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Papua New Guinea1058 Posts
1. Stood up for yourself,
2. They were furnituring their flat in the middle of night,
3. They were screaming loud enough to make a kid cry,
Why would you even feel about them having to move out? You shouldn't sacrifice yourself, so that some dudes might be noisy as shit past the curfew(dunno if it's the rigth word).
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While you may feel unfortunate about the results, it wasn't your call to make. You had no malicious intent, your complaint and request was quite reasonable. When it came down to it, the landlord decided they needed to go - it was their call to make and you should not feel badly for a decision the landlord made.
Good luck in your studies
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Korea (South)1897 Posts
Not a dick at all! But your note was exploited by others, so that sucks about the family, but when living with others, there has to be some limits.
GL with your exams as well keke.
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