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There is no doubt for me that Starcraft 2 is awesome. I have spent a lot of hours enjoying it, and it has been the "main" game I have played for a long time now. Yet I often wonder if there will ever be a warcraft 4? While starcraft offers much more macro oriented gameplay where losing a unit here and there doesn't really matter I always preferred the smaller scale battles in warcraft 3. The mix between rpg and rts was my favorite part. Leveling up your hero, trying to save every one of your units, creeping and getting items - I just feel like the focus trough a game of warcraft is always on the battlefield there is more of a dynamic feeling as a whole. In starcraft there are often times where neither player can make a move for the 10 minutes after a macro opening.
Now we all know about that game called WoW, and many would say that it is the reason for no wc4 announcement yet. While I agree with this I still hope that when the rts team at Blizzard is done with sc2 expansions it will start working on warcraft 4. It will be interesting what would be the different races in the game taking WoW into consideration. If they somehow twist the story my best and most logical guesses would be horde (orc, troll tauren), alliance(dwarf, human, gnome, draenei), elf (blood and night elves), burning legion, and scourge? But if they do it this way I don't know how they can explain some races not being in the horde, alliance or teaming up together like blood and night elves.
Anyway what are your thoughts on wc4? Do you think there will ever be a return to the rts genre for the warcraft franchise?
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Some Jim Raynor you are ...
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so how much hate will he get for mentioning warcraft on teamliquid?
jk, wc3 was awesome, but i feel like if it will come, then not anytime in 201x :/
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If they're gonna make it, it'll problaby be released in atleast 20 years.
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Canada1094 Posts
I feel that they've really butchered the lore, so it's going to be really hard to recover from turning the franchise from an RTSRPG into an MMO into an RTS again. Plus, WoW is still a cash cow, so I can't say it looks promising.
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It would be awesome... but so are dreams.
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I'm pretty sure Blizzard is planning on releasing SC2 expansions really, really slowly. I mean 2 years for an expansion for an RTS game is pretty unheard of and bad lol. When you think that they've got another one planned after this (and maybe another after that?) you've gotta know they're planning on milking this cow as long as they can. So long story short eventually there will be a WCIV if Blizz is still around by then, but it's gonna take a long time before they even start working on it.
I thought WC3 was a cool game with a unique concept and I like that they did something that different. I dunno if WCIV would be the exact same concept, but there's certainly more room for creativity than usual. If they tried to make an esport out of it I'd like a unique game that offered pros an opportunity to think outside the box rather than try to catch up to BW the way SC2 is trying to do.
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WC4 in 2016. It would be nice to have some competition in RTS outside starcraft even if it's blizzard again.
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Blizzard has Diablo to finish(?), two SC2 expansions to do (plus updates and patches), Pandaria Mists and the Titan project. I think there is many things in their plate so we doubtly will see WC4.
Also with all the lore developed for WoW and events in WC history, where would Blizzard start to tell something new? All the good stuff has been done. My theory is that after WoW, Blizzard won't revisit the Warcraft world, at least not in videogames. There is so much you can do with the same characters, right? Humans vs Orcs, The history of warchief Thrall, the fall of Arthas, the Lich king....After tolding the story of Warcraft, Blizzard should move on to other properties.
ps.: <3 WC3
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God I would absolutely LOVE WarCraft 4. This could really get the story back on track, since fucking Blizzard completely wrecked it with WoW. Now I played WoW for a while, and it's fun, but it doesn't compare to the emotional attachments I've developed to WarCraft since I have been playing it since my childhood.
man I need to go play that game again /cry.
EDIT: Also, I think that a WarCraft 4 would be really good too. I mean, they were out of practice with RTS games when StarCraft 2 came out, maybe if/when WarCraft 4 came out they would have learned from their mistakes.
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I'm quite confident there will be a WC4, I can't really see any reason why there wouldn't be. That said, it took 10 years between SC1 and SC2, and Blizzard has several expansions planned for SC2, Wow, Titan, Diablo... don't hold out for it, it will take ages before WC4 sees the light of day.
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There will probably be a War4 because it's a great money-cow, but I don't think it'll be released for a while. Also not sure if it'll be similar to War3. I hope it is; War3 is such a unique RTS game, and what's more, it works well, so I want them to continue along the same lines in the sequel.
I prefer playing War3 to SC2 even these days just to get my kicks. Not to mention, at least my computer can run War3 as opposed to SC2. :O
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And this is why i refuse to give blizz 15 bucks for a month of running around in an mmo, lol biggest waste of money to me. besides isn't icons and models from wow rehashed shit from wc3?! and after all those years they cut off from diablo 3 and starcraft 2 to make the game, they wont even change those icons!
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Sadly, I think the entire Warcraft franchise is ending.
Although I think the worst thing they ever did was let novelists like Golden and that other turd write things and then insert it as canon.
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On February 22 2012 05:32 Jerubaal wrote: Sadly, I think the entire Warcraft franchise is ending.
Although I think the worst thing they ever did was let novelists like Golden and that other turd write things and then insert it as canon.
On February 22 2012 04:23 HackBenjamin wrote: I feel that they've really butchered the lore, so it's going to be really hard to recover from turning the franchise from an RTSRPG into an MMO into an RTS again. Plus, WoW is still a cash cow, so I can't say it looks promising.
I was under the impression that Blizzard have either outright stated or at least heavily implied that if they ever go back to the WarCraft RTS franchise they will just resume from where they left off after WC3.
I personally would LOVE a WarCraft 4. But I think it will come out around the same time as Half Life 2: Episode 3 - ie a short time before the Rapture.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
I would play Warcraft 4 for the singleplayer alone probably.
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I'm pretty sure it wont be released after Starcraft 2's expansion cycle is over, that is in 9000 years.
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On February 22 2012 06:06 Kipsate wrote: I would play Warcraft 4 for the singleplayer alone probably. The WC3 single-player is fucking amazing. I'd do the same.
The SC2 single-player makes me cry at how much lost potential there is. Goddammit, Blizzard. Whyyyyy?
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I'm pretty sure they fucked the lore so hard in WoW that it would take them a decade to figure out what the hell to even make a WC4 about.
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