• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:12
CEST 16:12
KST 23:12
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League35Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.164Rollback Netcode in Brood War1335.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202624Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0
StarCraft 2
General
SCII needs to put more weight on strategy and tact Terran AddOns placement No more sc2 streamers on team liquid? Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.16 Server Blocker
Tourneys
WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 548 Shining Bright The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train
Brood War
General
Mineral gathering rate (boosted) for each patch Rollback Netcode in Brood War BW General Discussion Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos
Tourneys
[ASL22] Grand Finals [$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
How Much Genes Contribute to…
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9718 users

I want Warcraft IV !

Blogs > Jimmy Raynor
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
Jimmy Raynor
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
902 Posts
February 21 2012 18:48 GMT
#1
There is no doubt for me that Starcraft 2 is awesome. I have spent a lot of hours enjoying it, and it has been the "main" game I have played for a long time now. Yet I often wonder if there will ever be a warcraft 4? While starcraft offers much more macro oriented gameplay where losing a unit here and there doesn't really matter I always preferred the smaller scale battles in warcraft 3. The mix between rpg and rts was my favorite part. Leveling up your hero, trying to save every one of your units, creeping and getting items - I just feel like the focus trough a game of warcraft is always on the battlefield there is more of a dynamic feeling as a whole. In starcraft there are often times where neither player can make a move for the 10 minutes after a macro opening.

Now we all know about that game called WoW, and many would say that it is the reason for no wc4 announcement yet. While I agree with this I still hope that when the rts team at Blizzard is done with sc2 expansions it will start working on warcraft 4. It will be interesting what would be the different races in the game taking WoW into consideration. If they somehow twist the story my best and most logical guesses would be horde (orc, troll tauren), alliance(dwarf, human, gnome, draenei), elf (blood and night elves), burning legion, and scourge? But if they do it this way I don't know how they can explain some races not being in the horde, alliance or teaming up together like blood and night elves.

Anyway what are your thoughts on wc4? Do you think there will ever be a return to the rts genre for the warcraft franchise?

*****
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
February 21 2012 18:53 GMT
#2
Some Jim Raynor you are ...

: )
Feiya
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany42 Posts
February 21 2012 19:06 GMT
#3
so how much hate will he get for mentioning warcraft on teamliquid?


jk, wc3 was awesome, but i feel like if it will come, then not anytime in 201x :/
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-21 19:12:57
February 21 2012 19:12 GMT
#4
If they're gonna make it, it'll problaby be released in atleast 20 years.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
HackBenjamin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1094 Posts
February 21 2012 19:23 GMT
#5
I feel that they've really butchered the lore, so it's going to be really hard to recover from turning the franchise from an RTSRPG into an MMO into an RTS again. Plus, WoW is still a cash cow, so I can't say it looks promising.
NyKaL
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy54 Posts
February 21 2012 19:25 GMT
#6
It would be awesome... but so are dreams.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
February 21 2012 19:28 GMT
#7
I'm pretty sure Blizzard is planning on releasing SC2 expansions really, really slowly. I mean 2 years for an expansion for an RTS game is pretty unheard of and bad lol. When you think that they've got another one planned after this (and maybe another after that?) you've gotta know they're planning on milking this cow as long as they can. So long story short eventually there will be a WCIV if Blizz is still around by then, but it's gonna take a long time before they even start working on it.

I thought WC3 was a cool game with a unique concept and I like that they did something that different. I dunno if WCIV would be the exact same concept, but there's certainly more room for creativity than usual. If they tried to make an esport out of it I'd like a unique game that offered pros an opportunity to think outside the box rather than try to catch up to BW the way SC2 is trying to do.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
February 21 2012 19:39 GMT
#8
WC4 in 2016. It would be nice to have some competition in RTS outside starcraft even if it's blizzard again.
Brood War is forever
EdSlyB
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Portugal1621 Posts
February 21 2012 19:41 GMT
#9
Blizzard has Diablo to finish(?), two SC2 expansions to do (plus updates and patches), Pandaria Mists and the Titan project. I think there is many things in their plate so we doubtly will see WC4.

Also with all the lore developed for WoW and events in WC history, where would Blizzard start to tell something new? All the good stuff has been done. My theory is that after WoW, Blizzard won't revisit the Warcraft world, at least not in videogames. There is so much you can do with the same characters, right? Humans vs Orcs, The history of warchief Thrall, the fall of Arthas, the Lich king....After tolding the story of Warcraft, Blizzard should move on to other properties.

ps.: <3 WC3
aka Wardo
CyDe
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1010 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-21 20:33:03
February 21 2012 19:43 GMT
#10
God I would absolutely LOVE WarCraft 4. This could really get the story back on track, since fucking Blizzard completely wrecked it with WoW. Now I played WoW for a while, and it's fun, but it doesn't compare to the emotional attachments I've developed to WarCraft since I have been playing it since my childhood.

man I need to go play that game again /cry.

EDIT: Also, I think that a WarCraft 4 would be really good too. I mean, they were out of practice with RTS games when StarCraft 2 came out, maybe if/when WarCraft 4 came out they would have learned from their mistakes.
youtube.com/GamingCyDe-- My totally abandoned youtube channel that I might revisit at some point
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
February 21 2012 19:47 GMT
#11
I'm quite confident there will be a WC4, I can't really see any reason why there wouldn't be. That said, it took 10 years between SC1 and SC2, and Blizzard has several expansions planned for SC2, Wow, Titan, Diablo... don't hold out for it, it will take ages before WC4 sees the light of day.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
February 21 2012 19:57 GMT
#12
There will probably be a War4 because it's a great money-cow, but I don't think it'll be released for a while. Also not sure if it'll be similar to War3. I hope it is; War3 is such a unique RTS game, and what's more, it works well, so I want them to continue along the same lines in the sequel.

I prefer playing War3 to SC2 even these days just to get my kicks. Not to mention, at least my computer can run War3 as opposed to SC2. :O
FlyingToilet
Profile Joined August 2011
United States840 Posts
February 21 2012 19:58 GMT
#13
And this is why i refuse to give blizz 15 bucks for a month of running around in an mmo, lol biggest waste of money to me. besides isn't icons and models from wow rehashed shit from wc3?! and after all those years they cut off from diablo 3 and starcraft 2 to make the game, they wont even change those icons!
http://justin.tv/flyingtoilet
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
February 21 2012 20:06 GMT
#14
--- Nuked ---
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
February 21 2012 20:32 GMT
#15
Sadly, I think the entire Warcraft franchise is ending.

Although I think the worst thing they ever did was let novelists like Golden and that other turd write things and then insert it as canon.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
February 21 2012 21:01 GMT
#16
On February 22 2012 05:32 Jerubaal wrote:
Sadly, I think the entire Warcraft franchise is ending.

Although I think the worst thing they ever did was let novelists like Golden and that other turd write things and then insert it as canon.


On February 22 2012 04:23 HackBenjamin wrote:
I feel that they've really butchered the lore, so it's going to be really hard to recover from turning the franchise from an RTSRPG into an MMO into an RTS again. Plus, WoW is still a cash cow, so I can't say it looks promising.


I was under the impression that Blizzard have either outright stated or at least heavily implied that if they ever go back to the WarCraft RTS franchise they will just resume from where they left off after WC3.

I personally would LOVE a WarCraft 4. But I think it will come out around the same time as Half Life 2: Episode 3 - ie a short time before the Rapture.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 21 2012 21:06 GMT
#17
I would play Warcraft 4 for the singleplayer alone probably.
WriterXiao8~~
mrafaeldie12
Profile Joined July 2011
Brazil537 Posts
February 21 2012 21:31 GMT
#18
I'm pretty sure it wont be released after Starcraft 2's expansion cycle is over, that is in 9000 years.
"..it all comes thumbling down thumbling down thumblin down"
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
February 21 2012 21:37 GMT
#19
On February 22 2012 06:06 Kipsate wrote:
I would play Warcraft 4 for the singleplayer alone probably.

The WC3 single-player is fucking amazing. I'd do the same.

The SC2 single-player makes me cry at how much lost potential there is. Goddammit, Blizzard. Whyyyyy?
Gheed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States972 Posts
February 21 2012 21:39 GMT
#20
I'm pretty sure they fucked the lore so hard in WoW that it would take them a decade to figure out what the hell to even make a WC4 about.
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Weekly
20:00
#109
IntoTheiNu 1065
WardiTV872
OGKoka 535
Rex127
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 535
Rex 127
Codebar 24
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 49154
Calm 3431
Shuttle 1943
Jaedong 1279
Bisu 913
Horang2 610
Stork 543
firebathero 462
Mini 436
FanTaSy 388
[ Show more ]
EffOrt 381
Soma 326
actioN 303
Soulkey 253
BeSt 247
Rush 244
ZerO 208
Snow 182
Mind 162
sorry 120
Mong 106
Barracks 102
Killer 91
Zeus 87
Sea.KH 70
hero 60
Bishop 51
Creator 41
Shinee 41
Terrorterran 38
Hm[arnc] 30
soO 28
Noble 26
ToSsGirL 22
Shine 22
Yoon 21
Sacsri 17
Sexy 17
Aegong 15
zelot 15
scan(afreeca) 14
yabsab 13
HiyA 12
Icarus 6
Dota 2
Dendi974
syndereN295
Fuzer 2
Other Games
singsing2976
B2W.Neo1434
olofmeister1183
hiko1088
Lowko368
crisheroes332
Pyrionflax253
Liquid`VortiX207
QueenE42
ZerO(Twitch)11
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 2139
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• ChaeLyn 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV527
League of Legends
• Jankos2730
• Nemesis1942
• TFBlade676
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
1h 48m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
20h 48m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 9h
The PondCast
1d 19h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 20h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
FEL
4 days
FEL
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 22
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
IPSL Winter 2026-27
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Acropolis #5 - GSC
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.