• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:28
CET 17:28
KST 01:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13
Community News
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation12Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7
StarCraft 2
General
Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview [TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle BW General Discussion What happened to TvZ on Retro? Brood War web app to calculate unit interactions
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
PvZ map balance Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers How to stay on top of macro?
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2101 users

He was placed in gold!?!?!?

Blogs > Rudolph
Post a Reply
Rudolph
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States161 Posts
January 19 2012 04:01 GMT
#1
Before I go into the title of this blog, I am going to talk about my progress so far.

The past few days I played a total of like 3 terran. I beat all of them fairly easily. I'm getting more comfortable with infestors and broodlords now in all of my matchups.

Of all the toss I played, I beat a majority of them. I'm getting used to the transitions into late game now, and I don't fear the late game as much as I did before. I won 2 of my protoss games in the late game. Of the games I lost, they were mostly against gold players. I beat some gold players too.

ZvZ has to be the most tedious, micro-intensive matchup ever. I usually go roaches now instead of banelings, because roaches can take more baneling hits. I am winning some of these matchups, but if I'm kept contained early on, I end up losing. I just don't understand how zerg players stay on 1 base for so long. Its so hard to make both drones/units. But hey, as long as I'm winning. I have experienced so much ZvZ the past few days that I am so confident now.

Now for what the title is all about. My friend recently switched over to SC2 from BW like me. He plays protoss. Hes not good, at all. I mean that in the nicest way possible, but his macro is awful, and his micro is non-existent (Although I can't really talk ). He only ever masses void rays, so I felt like he would be stuck in bronze. I played him in a 1v1, but I didn't scout because I ASSUMED he wasn't going void rays because I knew he would. Wrong choice, I move my ovie in at the 7 minute mark and sure enough, he has 4 stargates making void rays. He attacks my base with like 10 before I have time to get enough mutas/spore crawlers, and I lost. BUT I rematched him, and this time I did scout. He went stalkers/collossus but he couldn't get his collossus out because I was so aggressive. I a-moved my first few roaches in against his blink stalkers, and they wiped the stalkers out. Finally, once I got more roaches he started microing a bit, but it just wasn't very good against my 2-2 roaches to his 1-1-1 stalkers. We both had 2 bases, I was expoing to my 3rd and gold when I won. I forced him to play his placement matches, and to EVERYONES surprise he places gold. Don't get me wrong, I am very happy for him, and most of this is jealousy talking, but I just don't think he belongs in gold. I guess thats where the ladder thinks he should be, and I am going to be working hard to get that gold promotion to be with him.

Congrats to him for placing gold though. The only other one of our SC2 group is Fluffy, and hes currently in platinum. So I have high expectations of him!

*
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45049 Posts
January 19 2012 04:36 GMT
#2
If he "accidentally" got placed into gold, then he'll end up getting promoted/ demoted eventually to where he should be.

Don't worry about it- just keep working to beat him!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
January 19 2012 05:14 GMT
#3
How much do you play? O__o

Most people that played BW got atleast diamond from the get-go... Good luck to you nonetheless.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
January 19 2012 05:22 GMT
#4
Blizzard can't honestly tell what league you are suppose to be in from 5 placement matches. My guess is he will learn how to play the game or will get demoted. Pretty much what happened to me. I placed into gold and got demoted to bronze and then switched races cause it doesn't really matter at that point.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
January 19 2012 05:34 GMT
#5
If he only does go mass stargate play then I would assume that's why he got placed higher than you think he should have. Low league players (like the guys you face in placement) don't have the best scouting techniques, or they simply have none many times so you would have many people play him and not even have a clue until they were being attacked that he went mass void ray.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
January 19 2012 05:49 GMT
#6
On January 19 2012 14:34 RaLakedaimon wrote:
If he only does go mass stargate play then I would assume that's why he got placed higher than you think he should have. Low league players (like the guys you face in placement) don't have the best scouting techniques, or they simply have none many times so you would have many people play him and not even have a clue until they were being attacked that he went mass void ray.

Ah, I remember a game that I played a year ago when I went mass Hydra vs mass Void Ray. It was certainly a fascinating experience. Ah, the wonders of Gold and Silver league. I'm now a better player and am in Plat, but sometimes I long for the silly days of old.

I remember this one time when I went for 6 robos off of 1 base against mass Hydra and mass BM. Such great memories...

ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
January 19 2012 05:55 GMT
#7
6 robos...1 base!? You be crazy tomahawk! I started out in bronze in beta and wish I had some of those old reps I could watch (assuming you can even view beta reps without beta client), I was....insanely bad. Bunker rushing was almost all I did then. haha
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 19 2012 06:11 GMT
#8
I have played under 100 games of SC2 TOTAL and I get placed into plat every season I do my matches. Every time I get placed there I'm like "yep, still got it" and quit again.

And lul @ losing to void ray u knew was coming but didnt scout anyway
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
January 19 2012 06:26 GMT
#9
On January 19 2012 15:11 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I have played under 100 games of SC2 TOTAL and I get placed into plat every season I do my matches. Every time I get placed there I'm like "yep, still got it" and quit again.

And lul @ losing to void ray u knew was coming but didnt scout anyway


LOL that's such an odd way to play. I recently got placed into plat as well after skipping seasons 2-4. TBH I'd much rather play some BGH than ladder. If only...
Logic is Overrated
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
January 19 2012 06:42 GMT
#10
Placement matches are only 5 games so it's not exactly telling. All you have to do is win 2 random games in any way shape or form and you can get placed in gold.
romelako
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States373 Posts
January 19 2012 06:44 GMT
#11
lol@4stargates
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
January 19 2012 07:19 GMT
#12
On January 19 2012 15:42 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Placement matches are only 5 games so it's not exactly telling. All you have to do is win 2 random games in any way shape or form and you can get placed in gold.

Nah a friend won 2/5 games and ended up in bronze (where he belongs). It depends who u win against, their rank etc
#1 Great fan ~ // Khan // FlaSh // JangBi // EffOrt //
shadowboxer
Profile Joined November 2010
United States224 Posts
January 19 2012 07:22 GMT
#13
Protoss has an easier time with cheesy strategies, thus he wins more than you do. Once you get to diamond you realize how many people are actually abysmal and got by on cheesing and gimmicky play. Then you get to masters, and realize the exact same thing. Ladder is worthless and promotes bad play.

You can still succeed with good play, but it's going to take you a lot longer because you need to learn A LOT of defensive timings on top of macro and mechanics. The thing about solid play is you actually need to play solid for it to work, which is a lot harder at your level.
"Hear that? That's God laughing at your plans."
keioh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 09:02:09
January 19 2012 09:01 GMT
#14
I regularly play in teamgame, be it 2v2 or more, and we are usually placed in platinum/diamond leagues. In 2v2 we played enough to become top platinum (being a team of 2 zergs I consider this an achievment :p ) with a friend, sometime steamyrollin' them top diamonds.

This being said, I played a single 1v1 since October 2010, it was 2 months ago. A new-to-the-game friend asked me to show him how I played, so I did my single placement match. Needless to say I got stomped hard (forgot to how to scout properly in 1v1, reacting too slowly in a unusual situation, roaming into the map without any vision whatsoever and thus got caught pants down by my opponent's entire superior army). And then I got placed into... platinum. Given the fact that the only season I played 1v1 was season 1, and that I was top gold, I find this relatively hilarious ; moreover I got an achievement of finishing a season within the top 100 platinum of a division in 1v1, by playing one game in one year. GREAT I KNOW UH ?

Another example of the placement thing : in 4v4 with some friends, at the beginning of a new season, we played one placement match, where we got raped. hard. by. better. players. And so, with one loss, we got promoted to master league and finished the season in master because, well, we decided we wouldn't play any other game just to keep this in our career story. We were even placed higher than a team where MoMaN played ! With 0-1 stats overall !

The moral of the story is : never trust the system! Err, I mean, the placement system is often not accurate in short term. You should not focus on this.
GIMME ALL THE BELGIAN WAFFLES I CAN GET FOR THIS MONEY !!!!!! BELGIAN WAFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLEEEEEEEEES
kranten
Profile Joined January 2012
Netherlands236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 11:16:23
January 19 2012 11:15 GMT
#15
I've been playing more gold people too, and like half of them do some kind of all in (haven't played that much so could be a coincidence). In my last 5 tvps 4 of them did some kind of 1 or 2 base collosus (they cut workers), 4 gate or dt rush.

Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
January 19 2012 12:19 GMT
#16
Well.....all I can say is surprises/disappointments/upsets/people getting lucky happens all the time......people who study hard screw up exams........sportsmen getting injured just before competitions they trained hard for......incontrol beating thorzain in homestory cup.........bitbybit cheesing his way to RO16 in gsl3........etc etc. Don't be too bothered by it dood
Zaranth
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States345 Posts
January 19 2012 15:21 GMT
#17
I have no RTS experience outside of SCII. My favorite game until SCII was The Sims. So that should give you a good idea of my skill level when I began (read, zero). I won 3/5 of my placement matches and was placed into PLATINUM. WTH?!? I am now in bronze where I belong. Don't worry, it'll all sort itself out. (Though I did leave myself in Plat for a season, so a got a nifty badge that makes me look kinda cool on the internet. ;-)
Maker of Cheerfuls @eZaranth
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
January 19 2012 15:38 GMT
#18
On January 19 2012 14:49 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 14:34 RaLakedaimon wrote:
If he only does go mass stargate play then I would assume that's why he got placed higher than you think he should have. Low league players (like the guys you face in placement) don't have the best scouting techniques, or they simply have none many times so you would have many people play him and not even have a clue until they were being attacked that he went mass void ray.

Ah, I remember a game that I played a year ago when I went mass Hydra vs mass Void Ray. It was certainly a fascinating experience. Ah, the wonders of Gold and Silver league. I'm now a better player and am in Plat, but sometimes I long for the silly days of old.

I remember this one time when I went for 6 robos off of 1 base against mass Hydra and mass BM. Such great memories...



rofl, there's plenty of little newbies all the way up to high masters to allow for ridiculously stupid strats and still win. just gotta up the execution
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
playernumber36
Profile Joined January 2012
5 Posts
January 19 2012 21:48 GMT
#19
i know someone who placed into plat. he played a bunch of games. now he is silver.

if he isn't gold, he will change leagues. everything will fall into its rightful place.
Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
January 19 2012 21:56 GMT
#20
gratz to be placed in gold! everyone has to start somewhere right?
Check out my guide to mechanics http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319876
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
15:55
FSL teamleague CNvsASH, ASHvRR
Freeedom16
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 306
LamboSC2 123
mcanning 69
MindelVK 23
EmSc Tv 8
ROOTCatZ 0
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 30346
Rain 2663
Horang2 1449
Jaedong 918
Shuttle 463
Stork 398
firebathero 226
Barracks 176
Shinee 104
LaStScan 98
[ Show more ]
Leta 82
Hyun 70
ggaemo 68
soO 52
Rock 39
Mong 27
Shine 26
JYJ26
HiyA 23
Dewaltoss 17
Movie 14
zelot 13
Oystein7
Dota 2
Gorgc6149
qojqva1885
Dendi1061
XcaliburYe116
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
ScreaM1027
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor328
Liquid`Hasu187
Other Games
B2W.Neo1935
Mlord411
Lowko255
DeMusliM253
Beastyqt252
Hui .188
Fuzer 167
Trikslyr26
febbydoto8
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream7797
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream4643
Other Games
EGCTV601
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 8
EmSc2Tv 8
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 71
• HeavenSC 22
• OhrlRock 1
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1840
• Ler52
League of Legends
• Nemesis2810
Other Games
• WagamamaTV345
• Shiphtur90
Upcoming Events
IPSL
32m
ZZZero vs rasowy
Napoleon vs KameZerg
OSC
2h 32m
BSL 21
3h 32m
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
17h 32m
RSL Revival
17h 32m
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
19h 32m
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs TBD
WardiTV Korean Royale
19h 32m
BSL 21
1d 3h
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
IPSL
1d 3h
Dewalt vs WolFix
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
1d 6h
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
1d 19h
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
BSL: GosuLeague
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
BSL: GosuLeague
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-14
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.