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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
January 18 2012 14:07 GMT
#1
Hello!

So for my birthday my lovely lovely girlfriend got me a Razer Arctosa and Abyssus. Considering that before i was playing with this (more or less, plus a random mouse just as old. Scrollwheel doesn`t work anymore on that):

http://www.dansdata.com/images/clicky2/spacesaver1280.jpg

it`s a hell of an improvement. Some buttons barely worked and i had to hit them REALLY hard for the hotkey to work. However, it also means that the new keyboard with smooth and well-working keys for now feels wierd as hell and my mechanics and macro have gone to shit, so while i practice i have decided to pull some bw builds in custom games for the luls. If i have to play like crap i might as well look insane/baller while doing it. Seriously it`s crazy how different it is, i have lost like 30 APM because sometimes i just sit there going "jeez this feels so wierd!"

I plan on trying and battle reporting the following:

PvZ
Sair/Reaver (turning it into phoenix/speed prism). It will be awful but whatever.
4gate 2archon +1chargelot.
2gate expand into double stargate +1 phoenixes.

PvT
15 nex into 2base carrier. Yell JANGBI OSL CHAMPION if i ever win a game with this.
DT drop, double expo and then get a mothership and templar. Pretend the mothership is an arbiter and recall around because yes.
4gate with 3 proxied if i ever run into gassless FE, just because NonY/Tyler is a badass.

PvP:
The manly Sayle build, 14 nex, 2gate zealot, then get dt`s, take a third when you still have no freakin units and then go zealot/archon. Might throw in some storms for good measure. If i can pull this one build off i will be the happiest man ever.
Something with speed warp prisms and colossi.
3gate (5gate?) chargelot.
2gate opening into whatever. I guess dt expanding, or mass zealots of 4-5 gateways.

Any other suggestions? I might try it for Terran and Zerg too, i`ll see.

*****
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
January 18 2012 14:12 GMT
#2
Gundamrush

2fac (1 with tech-lab and the 2nd with a reactor) and also reactor on the rax

push with 10 marines, 2 tanks and rally hellions.

This used to be a very viable strategy (SjoW beat UnderDark with it for instance) Not too sure it still works
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
January 18 2012 14:16 GMT
#3
I've tried the bisu build PvZ in SC2, but roaches...
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
Thienan567
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States670 Posts
January 18 2012 14:16 GMT
#4
5 hatch hydra zvp? Probably won't work but w/e

Also, 3 hatch muta, or some build that gets out 9 mutas all at once.

Deep six.
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3701 Posts
January 18 2012 14:26 GMT
#5
Try harassing with a Colo like a reaver, into two-base carrier (:

BTW while Razer gear is nice, and old stuff get's old/worn, I much prefer the old Dell Keyboards to anything for playing RTS, the keys are nice to touch, have a dynamic movement, and most importantly, you can palm the left ctrl key (FU laptops that can't). Then again, I am one to collect Logitech Mini Opticals (6 woot) so just my 2 cents.
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 14:31:54
January 18 2012 14:31 GMT
#6
I tried Phoenix SO much in PvZ ever since release pretty much, but at the end of the day dependency on Sentries and Zerg having Roaches shuts down so much of the BW PvZ style.

Edit: split Templar tech too.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
January 18 2012 14:32 GMT
#7
I remember the NSHoseo Protosses doing something really similar to a BW PvZ build, so it can`t be that bad. Honestly i don`t care if the builds i use are viable or not, i will suck regardless so whatever.

Worst case scenario, i go double robo immortal and pretend they are goons :D
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
January 18 2012 14:43 GMT
#8
The DT drop one will either be instawin or instaloss. ^^;
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Garm
Profile Joined June 2010
Norway222 Posts
January 18 2012 15:03 GMT
#9
You should do the SK Terran style in TvZ, where you fast expand and go only marines and medi... oh wait.
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ZeDo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States28 Posts
January 18 2012 15:17 GMT
#10
in the Last 1000 PvP's i have watched ive never seen someone take a third. Its 70% 1 base, 30% 2 base.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 18 2012 15:46 GMT
#11
On January 19 2012 00:03 Garm wrote:
You should do the SK Terran style in TvZ, where you fast expand and go only marines and medi... oh wait.

Don't forget the science ves... oh wait
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 15:50:24
January 18 2012 15:50 GMT
#12
On January 19 2012 00:46 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 00:03 Garm wrote:
You should do the SK Terran style in TvZ, where you fast expand and go only marines and medi... oh wait.

Don't forget the science ves... oh wait


I can always try 2port raven. So stuff to add:
2port raven tvz.
3hatch hydra zvp.
3hatch spire, get corruptors if he goes stargate otherwise get mutas, 5hatch hydra pvz.
1base muta zvz.
2fact tvp.

I guess i could also play a standard tvz, but have a starport for ravens and one for medivacs. I`ll see, plenty of builds to try already ^^

Thanks for the suggestions everyone!
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
January 18 2012 15:51 GMT
#13
On January 19 2012 00:03 Garm wrote:
You should do the SK Terran style in TvZ, where you fast expand and go only marines and medi... oh wait.


Well, SK terran style also uses science vessels. Maybe marine/medivac/raven? Ravens could potentially be good for blowing up banelings with seeker missile (irradiate) and harassing mineral lines with autoturrets (irradiate harass on drones).
elagrion
Profile Joined April 2010
Ukraine422 Posts
January 18 2012 16:22 GMT
#14
1 word: The Stove =).
Everything is a remix.
elagrion
Profile Joined April 2010
Ukraine422 Posts
January 18 2012 16:30 GMT
#15
On January 19 2012 00:51 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 00:03 Garm wrote:
You should do the SK Terran style in TvZ, where you fast expand and go only marines and medi... oh wait.


Well, SK terran style also uses science vessels. Maybe marine/medivac/raven? Ravens could potentially be good for blowing up banelings with seeker missile (irradiate) and harassing mineral lines with autoturrets (irradiate harass on drones).

You irradiating defilers 'cos EMP ain't efficient on them, because they got consume. But for infestors you should use EMP, and this spell is moved to ghosts.
So, it is basically SK Terran style already.
Everything is a remix.
elagrion
Profile Joined April 2010
Ukraine422 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 16:30:56
January 18 2012 16:30 GMT
#16
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Everything is a remix.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
January 18 2012 16:35 GMT
#17
On January 18 2012 23:07 Teoita wrote:
PvT
15 nex into 2base carrier. Yell JANGBI OSL CHAMPION if i ever win a game with this.


yea, this build doesnt work too well
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Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
January 18 2012 17:20 GMT
#18
On January 19 2012 01:35 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 23:07 Teoita wrote:
PvT
15 nex into 2base carrier. Yell JANGBI OSL CHAMPION if i ever win a game with this.


yea, this build doesnt work too well

It does versus zerg, yo
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
Cupine
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada51 Posts
January 18 2012 18:07 GMT
#19
Tbh, i've been thinking of trying the old bisu style of corsair/dt and making it phoenix/dt, i'll see how it goes ^_^
Cupine.945, Official protoss player now
darkmighty
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil48 Posts
January 18 2012 18:25 GMT
#20
On January 19 2012 01:35 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 23:07 Teoita wrote:
PvT
15 nex into 2base carrier. Yell JANGBI OSL CHAMPION if i ever win a game with this.


yea, this build doesnt work too well

Apparently you've not seen White-ra playing recently huh?
The only winning move is to never accept defeat.
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