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Sitinte
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States499 Posts
January 10 2012 02:15 GMT
#1
DISCLAIMER: Huge wall of text. I did my best to separate it.

I'm in a bit of a predicament. And before any of you jump on me, it's not another girl thread. Girls are the least of my worries and I have other people I can whine to about that. So you guys are spared from that.

The problem I'm discussing is fairly common though. In case my title didn't give it away, it has to do with my current major in school. Right now, I'm an Asian Studies major, dealing with the Orient and with a specific focus on contemporary issues/politics.

But before we delve into the problem, I feel like I need to explain my backstory (hence the wall of text disclaimer at the top of this post).

I wasn't always an Asian Studies major. When I started college (for the sake of specifics, we'll say it's a SUNY; a NY state university, and leave it at that), I was a biology major. I loved biology ever since I was in middle school.

But for some reason, that changed while I was in college. I don't know whether it was because the program was just too cutthroat or because the professors couldn't teach (in all honesty, they do know their material, but teaching is not their forte; TAs were far better at this kind of stuff), but in the end, I just couldn't take it anymore. What I just typed seems like I'm fishing for excuses, but I'm not. I messed up extremely hard, and in the end, 95 to 99 percent of the blame lies with me and me alone. I just lost all motivation towards the field.

During this time, I began exploring other fields of study to see if there was something that was truly for me. I dabbled in psychology, philosophy, economics, engineering, among other fields to see if there was anything at all. There wasn't, and as a consequence of my lethargic mindset, I ended up with a failing cumulative GPA and a probation by the school. One more semester of a sub-2.0 GPA and I would be suspended. Heck, even a 2.0 wouldn't have saved me.

I was ready to drop out after the spring semester of my sophomore year and just look for a job. I was merely wasting my parents money (I can never repay them enough for all their sacrifices for as long as I live, and it saddens me greatly that it became like this) and my own time. But I vowed to finish strong, and took a few courses which would boost my GPA. One of them would happen to be a political course on historical and modern Asia. Another would happen to be beginner's Japanese; a language I had wanted to learn in the first place but never could because high school had just the basic Spanish and French.

At first, I wasn't too interested in the class, since we were dealing with prehistory up to the Shang and Zhou Dynasties. But as we progressed, I became more and more engrossed with the various topics, ranging from how Wang Yangming's ideals played a role in the downfall of the Ming Dynasty to the success of Japanese zaibatsus in comparison to Western capitalism to contemporary politics in South Korea.

As a result, I began taking more and more courses in Asian Studies, switching over officially by my spring semester of junior year. Since then and currently, my 1.96 GPA had risen substantially, due to successive semesters of 3.6+ GPAs. I studied out of my own volition and during my own free time, as opposed to waiting until midterms or finals week like I had originally done. It was amazing how much a little interest goes a long way.

But now that I'm in my final year (I'm attending fall/winter 2012 as well because I switched midway) and on winter break, I'm reflecting and looking to my future, and it is now that we begin delving into the heart of my problems.

When we examine my major, the first thing one would ask me is: what do you plan on doing with that major? It's an extremely valid question, not just for this major, but for all humanities related majors. And when one thinks about it, the answers that come out are very limited. They usually involve research, or teaching. There's very little else one can do with it, especially without the protection of a secondary major, such as business or science. Even the teaching prospects are limited, as it's not a widely taught subject like English or History.

It was something I hadn't thought about at the time when I switched into it, and I regret it immensely. I acted out of impulse and selfishness (selfishness because I did not discuss this decision with my family; my parents nearly kicked me out of the house when they found out. I don't blame them. They should have done so). I love the material, but I have to think about my future.

Here, we move onto another aspect of my problems: when I graduate, I will be slapped with a substantial debt. Being a resident of NY and attending a state university reduced my costs considerably as opposed to my friend who pays triple my tuition for being from Virginia (if you see this, hi), but because of my abysmal first two years, I have lost a lot of support in the form of scholarships. I'm grateful for my grants, but the debt is still nothing to scoff at, especially when one comes from a family with a single working parent who earns less than $30k a year. Add another sibling who entered college last semester and you go lower than rock bottom. At least she's not as stupid as me and is dead set on what she wants to do. Thank goodness for small miracles.

Because of this monetary problem, graduate schools/programs are all but out of the question, which closes off one of the only routes that someone with a major like mine can steer themselves toward. Even teaching as a professor would require a master's degree or a doctorate. Essentially, this was a dead end major and I ended up wasting aforementioned money and time anyway.

But the time for crying over spilt milk is gone. I have regretted my choices, my stupidity and my lack of foresight and I still do. However, I need to continue on with my life, even if it means I have to struggle every step of the way. The first step is plainly obvious: finish this semester strong. What happens after this semester, however, is a question mark. These are my options:

1. Get a job after I leave college. This is the most basic option of them all. But everything comes with a catch. And here's the catch: The last time I worked was freshman year. I have no experience working since then, and even then, my work was menial, such as tending to the cash register and handling deliveries. No employer is going to want to hire a kid with minimal work experience and a poor educational history. I realize that GPA isn't the tell-all determining factor in this matter, but it would at least help to have something to make my paper look somewhat more attractive.

2. Finish my semester at school and transfer out to a CUNY; finish my major there while working and add another, more practical major there. CUNYs are far cheaper than SUNYs, and since I live within the city, I would be able to commute easily. I would be able to work and pay for my tuition. The downside is that I would be studying and working part-time, and I would graduate at a much, much later date.

3. Join the military. It's a half-assed reason compared to many volunteers who serve on the behalf of their country, but it's still an option to pay off my debts, as far as I know. I don't have much information on this option as I don't have anyone in my immediate family who attended military in the States (my relatives who have gone to the military were required to by the Korean military), so any insight would be highly appreciated.

4. JET program. I mentioned before that I have learned Japanese (I have completed advanced level Japanese and I'm fairly fluent at the language); this program sends people to Japan to teach English. The reason why I listed this separately from option 1 is because this is an overseas job and comes with its own set of challenges and downsides. The main downside is that I'm overseas and I will be completely isolated from everything I know and will be on my own completely for the duration of the program.

And that's all the options I have. If anyone else has other options or insight with their experiences, please let me know. I really want to set my life back on track because I'm sick of being a failure; I want to be self-reliant instead of burdening my poor parents and because I'm really sorry to everyone I've disappointed throughout the last four years. Thank you for your time.

Not really the first blog post I had envisioned; wanted to make a more enjoyable one.

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Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
January 10 2012 02:32 GMT
#2
The one big selling point you have going for you is a second language, which is hugely valuable when looking for work. If you're genuinely fluent, don't just limit yourself to the JET program, have a look around for anything which demands someone who can speak both Japanese and English.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
January 10 2012 02:32 GMT
#3
You could teach in Korea too!

But... if you aren't the get up and go travelling type, you're in a hard spot.

I've been looking into the military for my post-college things, and it's a pretty good deal. You can start out as a second lieutenant, (an officer) and you get great benefits. You'd have to make up your mind which branch you're going into.
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Fallians
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada242 Posts
January 10 2012 02:38 GMT
#4
If I were you I would look more into the option of teaching in Japan, for me traveling is one of my life goals and Japan is way up there on places I want to go plus I have heard that the teachers over there make quite a bit of money. In regards to the military option I know here in Canada the military is a lot more viable, my brother just joined a program that pays him to go to school maybe you could look into some type of ''scholarship'' type thing with the military (if the states is anything like Canada's with schooling) I honestly would not WANT to do either option 1 or 2 but this is all just my opinion and in the end its your choice. Hope it helped!
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27146 Posts
January 10 2012 02:43 GMT
#5
I did JET for five years. Let me know if you have any questions about it.
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 02:58:32
January 10 2012 02:57 GMT
#6
I am trying to do the JET program right now. Gonna be so sad if they don't even call me for an interview.

If you want to do JET tho, you should be aware that it is a long application process (Starts in October, and you don't work till like September next year lol...)
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Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 02:58:30
January 10 2012 02:58 GMT
#7
If you're thinking military, consider the Navy/Air Force. They have linguistics programs that are generally recruiting pretty hard.

However, don't be to hopeless. Getting a job with a non-standard major is often a matter of building up your skills and just going for it. If you are dedicated, opportunities will arise.
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Sitinte
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States499 Posts
January 10 2012 03:15 GMT
#8
Thanks for the advice, everyone. Your responses are extremely helpful and appreciated.

@mizu: That's true. Teaching in Korea is easier as I have relatives who live there and can support me. But unfortunately, my Korean (in terms of reading and writing) is considerably weaker than my Japanese (something my parents have moaned about, lol). I am studying both languages at the moment, however, to make best use of my time.

@ Mainfesto7: how was it? I'm looking through the FAQs and eligibility requirements right now, and as it is, I'd probably be a ALT, and if I'm lucky, maybe a CIS. Just your general experiences would be helpful; I'll come up with more questions as I go along and PM them to you.

Again, everyone's responses are appreciated. I know I sounded way too despondent in my post, but I feel it's better to go about with a sense of urgency now than tell myself, "it's okay, I'm still young" constantly like I have over the last few years.

kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
January 10 2012 03:41 GMT
#9
Would you receive a stipend if you went into graduate school? In some programs, you work for a thesis advisor and you are financially compensated. That would cover your tuition, rent and monthly expenses. Since your GPA has gone up you're probably eligible for consideration in a Masters program.
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27146 Posts
January 10 2012 06:48 GMT
#10
On January 10 2012 12:15 Sitinte wrote:
@ Mainfesto7: how was it? I'm looking through the FAQs and eligibility requirements right now, and as it is, I'd probably be a ALT, and if I'm lucky, maybe a CIS. Just your general experiences would be helpful; I'll come up with more questions as I go along and PM them to you.


That is a pretty broad question, so I cant really answer it. Everyone has their own reasons for joining the program, and the program worked out very well for me considering my situation.

Your Japanese will have to be pretty good to be a CIR, but if you dont see yourself as a teacher that is probably the best way to go.

I wanted to teach back in canada, so I wanted to be an ALT. the job is good, hours are great, and the pay is alright. If you are disciplined with money you can save up enough to pay off all of your debts. If you aren't good with money, you will have tons of opportunity to piss it all away. Japan is expensive, but only if you let it be.

I went because of family, rapidly saw myself staying long term, and got my masters at night while doing my ALT job in the day. Ive been out of the program for a couple years now, but in the same position.

You might look into how the JET experience will positively effect your application to teaching certificate programs when you come back to your home country, as I imagine it would look good.

Anyway, any questions just pm me. Chef is right though, the application process is long and complicated, so stay on top of it.
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
January 10 2012 09:54 GMT
#11
i don't know what my humanity major friends did... hmm
I think one become a musician
Other is doing some kind of consulting work
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Viciousvx
Profile Joined December 2010
United States83 Posts
January 10 2012 11:01 GMT
#12
P.S. Assuming you haven't spoken or mentioned some of your opportunities with your parents
and you talk about how your parents haven't kicked you out.

but If you were to join the military, or talk seriously to them about joining the military. (especially as a solution to financial issues)
they really would lose all respect for you, your intelligence, and abandon you.

just saying.
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TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
January 10 2012 15:21 GMT
#13
OP the issues you are talking about are faced by every single one of us Liberal Arts majors when we graduate like I just did. Whenever I tell people that my degree is in political science I always see that momentary look flash across their face that just says;'"wtf half assed degree is that?". And typically, I have to resist the great temptation to tell them to go procreate with themselves. I attended one of the top big ten schools and I was a pre-business major for a while. Having taken a number or core business classes and dealing with business students in group projects and the like; I can tell you they are not the ultra qualified financial minds people think they are.

You want to know what you can do with a LA major? Anything you fucking want. I found my LA education to be more enlightening; interesting; and for lack of a better term, educating than my business classes or economics classes (I had a stupid idea about double majoring for a while). I'm glad I took the major I did because it made me a better person and opened my mind to a lot of things, I get the feeling you had a similar experience. The business world is littered with psyc majors, english majors, mass com majors and every other type of degree. Don't worry about your GPA. Mine isn't great either, I simply leave it off my resume. I've only had one company actually inquire about it so far.

However you decide against trying to get into a program such as JET, my guess is you will have problems finding a job. But not because of your major, because the job market is awful. (horrifying actually) Saw a Wallstreet journal article a few weeks back that said something like 25% of graduates are living back at home. You are correct that your lack of job experience is going to hurt you. I stacked up 4 years of professional IT work while in college, and I'm still having problems finding permanent work. (apparently unless I want to work in insurance, still getting insurance company recuiters bugging me *shudder*) Many companies are hiring tons of temporary and contract workers right now though, which actually could work in your favor. Spend a year working for a number of different companies building up work experience and references.

Just don't feel like JET is your only option. Don't get railroaded into this idea that only people with *real* college degrees and high GPAs can get jobs. Your degree is what you make of it.
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In)Spire
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1323 Posts
January 10 2012 16:47 GMT
#14
Wow. I feel like I'm in a very similar position as you. I went in this first semester as a Chem major. Took my basics and became disgusted all together with math and science in general. I was an aspiring pre-med/med school student but my interest in that field just completely died. My GPA was great this first semester, but all the long hours of studying something that motivated me none just wasn't appealing. I'm a Greek&Hebrew major now looking to go to seminary (which I'm very excited for ^^).

I wish you luck in whatever you decide to pursue in the future!
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