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I sometimes wished that vacations never end.. Getting up not too late, watching random streams on your computer or even on your smartphone, and trying to find entertaining with other people playing the game. I like to watch the things other people do. Ask them stuff about their play and I think it is really important to know what the other people are thinking and also what the reason is they make certain kind of choices.
For example.. How does someone that plays protoss react on a lot of roaches? How does a terran handle the amount of banelings that are coming to them? I know there are certain techniques you can use to avoid these kind of things but still. I like it when people tell me it.. It helps me remember it better and ofcourse also it shows that someone is interested into the persons who are trying to win their games..
Now.. I try to avoid the big players, cause I like the little conversations you can have on the smaller streams. I often meet new people from the same league who want to play some custom games with me to practise. I love this in the community that starcraft has..
If you have a stream and you stream your ladder games.. I would like to give some advice tips or anything like that, that I personally LOVE to see in a stream and also makes me stick at a certain random stream..
1) Talk.. When someone doesnt talk to his viewers, or during the game, even if it is to someone else or anything.. Talk please.. It is nice to hear someones voice, to kinda hear what someone is thinking of feeling when playing the game.. The frustration, the anger, the happiness, the lucky sighs.. You know.. It is great to hear how the lucky clicks affect someone. Or how cheese effect someones mood. If there is no talking, I normally dont stay for long..
2) Interactive.. The people who watch love to be drawn into the game.. You can do this by using voice, typing, any other way you want to make it interactive for your watchers..
3) Never... Just leave without saying anything.. Leaving without saying anything is not apreciated..
And for the viewers.. Please dont flame anything what the caster/player/streamer is doing.. The other day when I was watching Ret streams and his gf Pandii was on the background.. I hated all the people saying stuff like "Who is that ugly girl on the background" "U can get better Ret" "Let that girl shut her mouth" etc.. It is annoying to try and watch a pro player play, without hearing people whining and trolling about his gf in a bad way. You would not apreciate it when people do that with your gf, your mum or who ever you care about.. Dont do it to others either then..
So Ironlady on saturday! Everybody's going to watch that? 
Peace out! And dont forget to GG..
Dont be a BM-er be a GG-er
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This blog has actually slightly inspired me to start playing again! After losing about 6 games in a row because I was clearly just playing badly, plus a kind TL member giving me a Dota2 key, I was pretty disheartened about playing at all.
Then again, the most views I've gotten on my stream is 2, and they were my friends 
GL on Saturday! I don't see the tourney mentioned on the calendar. Am I just blind or is it not up yet?
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I have always been of the strict opinion that if it was not a good game, it does not deserve a GG. If they played well and outsmarted/outplayed me, they deserve a GG. If they all-in you in right at the start, it was not a good game, neither of you learned anything so there's no reason in saying GG. It's not bad manner to not say GG to somebody who didn't even try to play a good game. Saying GG to everyone just belittles the word when you actually mean it. And then there's the fact that a ton of all-in players like to use GG offensively when they think they've won. I don't mind this though, because usually it means they are actually just bad and I beat them regardless of what happened and then I can properly say GG and mean it, because I played a good game in defending their no thought all-in and took points from them after they were BM
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some people like me that stream only do it for a few friends that they talk to in a separate chat so theyre not gonna look at the actual twitch stream at all very much
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1st rule when watching a stream: turn OFF the chat. Even this simply step can make a stream 10 times better. Correction: 50 times better. I'm still amazed with quantity of crap you can see in a chat...it saddens me.
About the streamers, I agree that I feel more confortable to see stream where the player talks/communicates with his/her viewers.
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Meh the chat can be the coolest part of the stream, assuming there's a decent mod and not too many people.
Obviously tho, once the number of viewers goes over 500, the chat turns to shit.. that's just how the internet is.
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I wish I had a good enough PC to stream, I'd be a kick-ass streamer.,.,
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On January 05 2012 22:25 andycz wrote:
Meh the chat can be the coolest part of the stream, assuming there's a decent mod and not too many people.
Obviously tho, once the number of viewers goes over 500, the chat turns to shit.. that's just how the internet is.
There are a few streamers that can manage above 500 viewers without the chat going into a shitstorm. It really depends on the mods and the person streaming.
On the topic of watching random streamers.... it is definitely much more enjoyable watching random stream because of the viewer broadcaster interaction. Especially if you're trying to get better in the game as you get this pseudo coaching going on with the broadcaster.
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I do agree on the not GGing with cheese >_< but there is a difference being BM and not GGing..
I see people getting flamed for just outsmarting people, the others cant stand it and start cursing with diseases and what so more.. If you cant handle losing games, dont play it.. Games are no games if there is too much stress and nasty feelings involved with them!
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good stuff! nice common sense tips, although i have to say that i believe GG is a matter of courtesy no matter how they acted or played. you don't have to react negatively just because they're rude to you.
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On January 05 2012 20:50 aike wrote:
I have always been of the strict opinion that if it was not a good game, it does not deserve a GG. If they played well and outsmarted/outplayed me, they deserve a GG. If they all-in you in right at the start, it was not a good game, neither of you learned anything so there's no reason in saying GG. It's not bad manner to not say GG to somebody who didn't even try to play a good game. Saying GG to everyone just belittles the word when you actually mean it. And then there's the fact that a ton of all-in players like to use GG offensively when they think they've won. I don't mind this though, because usually it means they are actually just bad and I beat them regardless of what happened and then I can properly say GG and mean it, because I played a good game in defending their no thought all-in and took points from them after they were BM
gg'ing is like shaking hands after a tennis match. it has nothing to do with the actual game, but is a sign of mutual respect.
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On January 06 2012 02:36 beg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 20:50 aike wrote:
I have always been of the strict opinion that if it was not a good game, it does not deserve a GG. If they played well and outsmarted/outplayed me, they deserve a GG. If they all-in you in right at the start, it was not a good game, neither of you learned anything so there's no reason in saying GG. It's not bad manner to not say GG to somebody who didn't even try to play a good game. Saying GG to everyone just belittles the word when you actually mean it. And then there's the fact that a ton of all-in players like to use GG offensively when they think they've won. I don't mind this though, because usually it means they are actually just bad and I beat them regardless of what happened and then I can properly say GG and mean it, because I played a good game in defending their no thought all-in and took points from them after they were BM gg'ing is like shaking hands after a tennis match. it has nothing to do with the actual game, but is a sign of mutual respect.
For there to be a sign of mutual respect, you first have to respect the other player. I don't respect a player who is only playing to get wins and not to get better/have fun and just all-ins. They don't deserve my respect so why would I show them a sign of respect? If in tennis, the guy sneakily replaced the tennis ball with a hand grenade and hit it at you, and then you lost your legs, would you pull yourself over to the net with only your arms to shake his hand after?
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On January 06 2012 03:30 aike wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 02:36 beg wrote:On January 05 2012 20:50 aike wrote:
I have always been of the strict opinion that if it was not a good game, it does not deserve a GG. If they played well and outsmarted/outplayed me, they deserve a GG. If they all-in you in right at the start, it was not a good game, neither of you learned anything so there's no reason in saying GG. It's not bad manner to not say GG to somebody who didn't even try to play a good game. Saying GG to everyone just belittles the word when you actually mean it. And then there's the fact that a ton of all-in players like to use GG offensively when they think they've won. I don't mind this though, because usually it means they are actually just bad and I beat them regardless of what happened and then I can properly say GG and mean it, because I played a good game in defending their no thought all-in and took points from them after they were BM gg'ing is like shaking hands after a tennis match. it has nothing to do with the actual game, but is a sign of mutual respect. For there to be a sign of mutual respect, you first have to respect the other player. I don't respect a player who is only playing to get wins and not to get better/have fun and just all-ins. They don't deserve my respect so why would I show them a sign of respect? If in tennis, the guy sneakily replaced the tennis ball with a hand grenade and hit it at you, and then you lost your legs, would you pull yourself over to the net with only your arms to shake his hand after?
If a guy hacked or cheated, I wouldn't GG.
On the other hand, if he did some aggressive play and I lost, I would GG.
Which of those two situations is more like a grenade?
When you get all-inned it's not getting grenaded, it's getting power-served and not being able to respond.
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On January 06 2012 04:17 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 03:30 aike wrote:On January 06 2012 02:36 beg wrote:On January 05 2012 20:50 aike wrote:
I have always been of the strict opinion that if it was not a good game, it does not deserve a GG. If they played well and outsmarted/outplayed me, they deserve a GG. If they all-in you in right at the start, it was not a good game, neither of you learned anything so there's no reason in saying GG. It's not bad manner to not say GG to somebody who didn't even try to play a good game. Saying GG to everyone just belittles the word when you actually mean it. And then there's the fact that a ton of all-in players like to use GG offensively when they think they've won. I don't mind this though, because usually it means they are actually just bad and I beat them regardless of what happened and then I can properly say GG and mean it, because I played a good game in defending their no thought all-in and took points from them after they were BM gg'ing is like shaking hands after a tennis match. it has nothing to do with the actual game, but is a sign of mutual respect. For there to be a sign of mutual respect, you first have to respect the other player. I don't respect a player who is only playing to get wins and not to get better/have fun and just all-ins. They don't deserve my respect so why would I show them a sign of respect? If in tennis, the guy sneakily replaced the tennis ball with a hand grenade and hit it at you, and then you lost your legs, would you pull yourself over to the net with only your arms to shake his hand after? If a guy hacked or cheated, I wouldn't GG. On the other hand, if he did some aggressive play and I lost, I would GG. Which of those two situations is more like a grenade? When you get all-inned it's not getting grenaded, it's getting power-served and not being able to respond.
That or the old class serve and volley tactic. High risk/high reward. Its just a strat. I gg every game, and if its a genuinely good game, I add a bit to it, like "wow that game was ace. gg dude!"
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On January 06 2012 07:24 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 04:17 Blazinghand wrote:On January 06 2012 03:30 aike wrote:On January 06 2012 02:36 beg wrote:On January 05 2012 20:50 aike wrote:
I have always been of the strict opinion that if it was not a good game, it does not deserve a GG. If they played well and outsmarted/outplayed me, they deserve a GG. If they all-in you in right at the start, it was not a good game, neither of you learned anything so there's no reason in saying GG. It's not bad manner to not say GG to somebody who didn't even try to play a good game. Saying GG to everyone just belittles the word when you actually mean it. And then there's the fact that a ton of all-in players like to use GG offensively when they think they've won. I don't mind this though, because usually it means they are actually just bad and I beat them regardless of what happened and then I can properly say GG and mean it, because I played a good game in defending their no thought all-in and took points from them after they were BM gg'ing is like shaking hands after a tennis match. it has nothing to do with the actual game, but is a sign of mutual respect. For there to be a sign of mutual respect, you first have to respect the other player. I don't respect a player who is only playing to get wins and not to get better/have fun and just all-ins. They don't deserve my respect so why would I show them a sign of respect? If in tennis, the guy sneakily replaced the tennis ball with a hand grenade and hit it at you, and then you lost your legs, would you pull yourself over to the net with only your arms to shake his hand after? If a guy hacked or cheated, I wouldn't GG. On the other hand, if he did some aggressive play and I lost, I would GG. Which of those two situations is more like a grenade? When you get all-inned it's not getting grenaded, it's getting power-served and not being able to respond. That or the old class serve and volley tactic. High risk/high reward. Its just a strat. I gg every game, and if its a genuinely good game, I add a bit to it, like "wow that game was ace. gg dude!"
The difference being these things require skill to do. And when you are playing in a professional match, you are doing anything you can to win. When you are practicing with your friends, you don't try to just beat them as fast as possible, you try to play a good game that helps both of you get better. I've been playing competitive games since GG was invented, nobody cares if you GG or not in any game except SC. For some reason starcraft players feel like it's required, because it's required in professional tournaments, and the only reason it's required is because it's a professional way to say "You won this match"
I GG in counterstrike all the time, win or lose, because it's always a fun friendly game of people owning each other in the face, and if you had fun that means it was a good game. Saying GG no matter what is really stupid because it really does make it mean nothing. If I lose and say GG, I want the other guy to feel good because he played a great game and deserved the win and that I respect him for it. Since everybody assumes you have to say GG, it makes it never mean anything at all, which forces players to say "GG WP" instead when they actually play a good game.
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On January 06 2012 18:55 aike wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 07:24 Hassybaby wrote:On January 06 2012 04:17 Blazinghand wrote:On January 06 2012 03:30 aike wrote:On January 06 2012 02:36 beg wrote:On January 05 2012 20:50 aike wrote:
I have always been of the strict opinion that if it was not a good game, it does not deserve a GG. If they played well and outsmarted/outplayed me, they deserve a GG. If they all-in you in right at the start, it was not a good game, neither of you learned anything so there's no reason in saying GG. It's not bad manner to not say GG to somebody who didn't even try to play a good game. Saying GG to everyone just belittles the word when you actually mean it. And then there's the fact that a ton of all-in players like to use GG offensively when they think they've won. I don't mind this though, because usually it means they are actually just bad and I beat them regardless of what happened and then I can properly say GG and mean it, because I played a good game in defending their no thought all-in and took points from them after they were BM gg'ing is like shaking hands after a tennis match. it has nothing to do with the actual game, but is a sign of mutual respect. For there to be a sign of mutual respect, you first have to respect the other player. I don't respect a player who is only playing to get wins and not to get better/have fun and just all-ins. They don't deserve my respect so why would I show them a sign of respect? If in tennis, the guy sneakily replaced the tennis ball with a hand grenade and hit it at you, and then you lost your legs, would you pull yourself over to the net with only your arms to shake his hand after? If a guy hacked or cheated, I wouldn't GG. On the other hand, if he did some aggressive play and I lost, I would GG. Which of those two situations is more like a grenade? When you get all-inned it's not getting grenaded, it's getting power-served and not being able to respond. That or the old class serve and volley tactic. High risk/high reward. Its just a strat. I gg every game, and if its a genuinely good game, I add a bit to it, like "wow that game was ace. gg dude!" The difference being these things require skill to do. And when you are playing in a professional match, you are doing anything you can to win. When you are practicing with your friends, you don't try to just beat them as fast as possible, you try to play a good game that helps both of you get better. I've been playing competitive games since GG was invented, nobody cares if you GG or not in any game except SC. For some reason starcraft players feel like it's required, because it's required in professional tournaments, and the only reason it's required is because it's a professional way to say "You won this match" I GG in counterstrike all the time, win or lose, because it's always a fun friendly game of people owning each other in the face, and if you had fun that means it was a good game. Saying GG no matter what is really stupid because it really does make it mean nothing. If I lose and say GG, I want the other guy to feel good because he played a great game and deserved the win and that I respect him for it. Since everybody assumes you have to say GG, it makes it never mean anything at all, which forces players to say "GG WP" instead when they actually play a good game.
I understand where's you're coming from, and that's probably why I don't see it as an issue. Because it's already happened to me. Saying gg is a pretty meaningless thing now, and I think that's happening more and more in games, not only SC2. If you watch other games, like Dota2 or random BGs on MMOs, people say gg despite how terrible it is.
I do think that it's come to the point where its just a matter of courtesy about "hey, you won the game" and not an indication of whether the game was good or not. Is that a bad thing? Can't say. But I do agree that we shouldn't be compelled to gg if we don't want to, unless its on a professional level and there are certain rules about conduct. Its a person's choice, so we should not be forcing it on them.
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