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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
January 04 2012 22:28 GMT
#41
Good for her. What a frightening experience =/
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37065 Posts
January 04 2012 22:34 GMT
#42
Uhhh.... wow..... what a story.

What a brave mother.

What jackasses trying to break in....
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 04 2012 22:46 GMT
#43
Wow was surprised to see only 1 person (who has no idea what he's talking about obviously) be against this.

That is crazy crisis management and in my eyes she made the right decision to just shoot him out right. I wouldn't wait and ask questions because for all that could have happened both could have charged her immediately. Right decision in my eyes and man sucks to be her though, husband dies of cancer on christmas day then 2 guys try to break in. Feel really bad for you
When I think of something else, something will go here
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-04 22:49:07
January 04 2012 22:47 GMT
#44
On January 05 2012 06:28 Xiron wrote:
Show nested quote +
"I can't tell you that you can do that but you do what you have to do to protect your baby," the dispatcher told her.

Really? The dispatcher's purpose is to assist the caller, right? But what a shitty help is that? She asks if its ok to kill the intruder if he comes into the house. The dispatcher has to give a clear answer in my opinion.
Otherwise it's a failure to render assistence. If the woman came to the conclusion that she wasn't allowed to shoot him, because the dispatcher did not help her, she would have died.


Think of it this way, the dispatcher has to be ambiguous. (or I presume so assuming the following scenarios happen) recieving information from (usually) a panicked person creates a very hard picture to form. The only time you'd give a black and white answer is if you damn right for sure known the circumstances and thats counter to the idea of a phone dispatcher

Lets say she said they were trying to get in the house and she asks if she can shoot them. The dispatcher says yes it's in your right.

Turns out the house is the boyfriends and she's locked herself in because she found out he was cheating on her.

Who's fucked now? (aside from the now dead boyfriend)
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Hekisui
Profile Joined May 2011
195 Posts
January 04 2012 22:49 GMT
#45
Well only responses from people from NA. It is pretty clear that part of the world is morally degenerated even more than Europe is.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-04 22:53:03
January 04 2012 22:52 GMT
#46
On January 05 2012 07:49 Hekisui wrote:
Well only responses from people from NA. It is pretty clear that part of the world is morally degenerated even more than Europe is.


Well I can only imagine what sad fate awaits you if someone ever breaks into your house with a 12 inch hunters knife. Good luck for your sake hope it never happens to you as you clearly have no regard to your own life and the criminal is innocent and should not be killed even if carrying a huge knife that could easily kill you which who knows what his motives were.

Maybe they were going to rape her? Think she should just let that happen? Then let them kill her as well? Sounds smart to me.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-04 22:53:08
January 04 2012 22:52 GMT
#47
On January 05 2012 07:49 Hekisui wrote:
Well only responses from people from NA. It is pretty clear that part of the world is morally degenerated even more than Europe is.


Give me your initial first reaction to someone trying to break into your house brandishing a 12 inch knife. Acceptance of fate? Or do you not try to prolong your life?
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Makaveli1
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States118 Posts
January 04 2012 22:53 GMT
#48
On January 05 2012 07:49 Hekisui wrote:
Well only responses from people from NA. It is pretty clear that part of the world is morally degenerated even more than Europe is.


Dude, If somebody was trying to break in your door with a huge ass hunting knife and trying to kill you and your son, and the only way to live would be to shoot him, wouldn't you shoot him? ._____.
Hekisui
Profile Joined May 2011
195 Posts
January 04 2012 22:59 GMT
#49
Criminals are people too. To put them down like animals the moment they break the law is immoral and has nothing to do with self defense. The way you respond to my post shows you people completely lack the sensitivity here. This is purely jumping on the opportunity to kill someone just because it is legal. There is a pure lack of moral fiber here. Morality never enters the picture for you people. You can kill. Great. Boom! Dead. Haha. That's it.

User was banned for this post.
RageOverdose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States690 Posts
January 04 2012 22:59 GMT
#50
On January 05 2012 07:53 Makaveli1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 07:49 Hekisui wrote:
Well only responses from people from NA. It is pretty clear that part of the world is morally degenerated even more than Europe is.


Dude, If somebody was trying to break in your door with a huge ass hunting knife and trying to kill you and your son, and the only way to live would be to shoot him, wouldn't you shoot him? ._____.


I'm fine with the mother's decision, but to play a counter point, she could disable them instead of kill them.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-04 23:02:41
January 04 2012 22:59 GMT
#51
On January 05 2012 07:59 Hekisui wrote:
Criminals are people too. To put them down like animals the moment they break the law is immoral and has nothing to do with self defense. The way you respond to my post shows you people completely lack the sensitivity here. This is purely jumping on the opportunity to kill someone just because it is legal. There is a pure lack of moral fiber here. Morality never enters the picture for you people. You can kill. Great. Boom! Dead. Haha. That's it.


Answer my question.

They lost their right to life, and their rights as a human being the second they made the decision to attempt to take the life of another.

They are animals, they deserve to be put down.

To the guy above, shoot to kill every time. I shoot him in the leg, he's still got arms to throw his knife at my child, I shoot his arm he's got another any other tactical spot I'm probably not a good enough sharp shooter to hit. If you mean disable him through martial arts, I'll pass and stick to the gun.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-04 23:02:30
January 04 2012 23:01 GMT
#52
On January 05 2012 07:59 Hekisui wrote:
Criminals are people too. To put them down like animals the moment they break the law is immoral and has nothing to do with self defense. The way you respond to my post shows you people completely lack the sensitivity here. This is purely jumping on the opportunity to kill someone just because it is legal. There is a pure lack of moral fiber here. Morality never enters the picture for you people. You can kill. Great. Boom! Dead. Haha. That's it.


Your post just showed you have no idea what we are talking about and are ignoring questions. Way to go I am pretty sure you are just trying to start an argument here just to see responses. If not that you are completely ignorant to the real world and think nothing bad ever happens to people which is just delusional.
When I think of something else, something will go here
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
January 04 2012 23:01 GMT
#53
On January 05 2012 07:23 qqK wrote:
Should have breastfed the baby, imo.

probly not, too much adrenaline in the milk bro
TerraTron
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada137 Posts
January 04 2012 23:03 GMT
#54
On January 05 2012 07:59 Hekisui wrote:
Criminals are people too. To put them down like animals the moment they break the law is immoral and has nothing to do with self defense. The way you respond to my post shows you people completely lack the sensitivity here. This is purely jumping on the opportunity to kill someone just because it is legal. There is a pure lack of moral fiber here. Morality never enters the picture for you people. You can kill. Great. Boom! Dead. Haha. That's it.


I can't even tell if this guy is serious. Hopefully no one ever needs his protection in a life and death scenario.
Hekisui
Profile Joined May 2011
195 Posts
January 04 2012 23:10 GMT
#55
Why all the personal attacks?

Well I hope I never go to the US or Canada, get lost, knock on someones door late at night and get shot instantly.

Someone was killed rather than saved btw.
ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
January 04 2012 23:11 GMT
#56
I would have shot them the second I saw them with a 12 in knife trying to get into my home. I'm glad she did that. I don't own a gun, but in a situation like this I'm glad she had one. She did the proper thing. I would have been on a spree if someone threatened my life
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
January 04 2012 23:11 GMT
#57
This is one of those rare situations in which having a gun in your home is useful. It's a shame all the problems a gun culture causes take away all of that, and more =/
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-04 23:13:11
January 04 2012 23:12 GMT
#58
On January 05 2012 08:03 TerraTron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 07:59 Hekisui wrote:
Criminals are people too. To put them down like animals the moment they break the law is immoral and has nothing to do with self defense. The way you respond to my post shows you people completely lack the sensitivity here. This is purely jumping on the opportunity to kill someone just because it is legal. There is a pure lack of moral fiber here. Morality never enters the picture for you people. You can kill. Great. Boom! Dead. Haha. That's it.


I can't even tell if this guy is serious. Hopefully no one ever needs his protection in a life and death scenario.


After reading this I can safely say he's not serious. He's just trying to stir up an argument.

On January 05 2012 08:10 Hekisui wrote:
Why all the personal attacks?

Well I hope I never go to the US or Canada, get lost, knock on someones door late at night and get shot instantly.

Someone was killed rather than saved btw.


Yep simple troll.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-04 23:15:34
January 04 2012 23:14 GMT
#59
On January 05 2012 07:59 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 07:59 Hekisui wrote:
Criminals are people too. To put them down like animals the moment they break the law is immoral and has nothing to do with self defense. The way you respond to my post shows you people completely lack the sensitivity here. This is purely jumping on the opportunity to kill someone just because it is legal. There is a pure lack of moral fiber here. Morality never enters the picture for you people. You can kill. Great. Boom! Dead. Haha. That's it.


Answer my question.

They lost their right to life, and their rights as a human being the second they made the decision to attempt to take the life of another.

They are animals, they deserve to be put down.


I disagree with this.

What if the person in question has a shit life, with domestic abuse, sexual or assault? No hope of a fulfilling life, no loving family, not friends? You don't know how you would turn out under those circumstances, unless you went through that yourself and think it was easy.

Sure, it might not be the case here (there are plenty of guys who just manage to be douchebags), but making a blanket statement that you always lose the right to live as soon as you decide to threaten another's life is wrong.
Hekisui
Profile Joined May 2011
195 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-04 23:20:06
January 04 2012 23:16 GMT
#60
Why am I a troll? Sheesh.

She was never attacked. They didn't know she had a gun. She never fired a warning shot. The other guy wasn't shot and he didn't kill her. As the article reads, she killed him the first opportunity she got. In the Netherlands she would be found guilty for sure.
Same in UK.

You saying the lawmakers in those countries are trolling too? You choose to be wrong to be immoral. Sad.


People like Denzil proof my point and proof that I am not trolling. It is just people being brought up with bad morality. Not a disagreement over how much violence one can use in defense of property.
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