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Getting involved in the community: NASL Finals 2

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Koibu0
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States513 Posts
December 06 2011 04:41 GMT
#1
So, I know I said I'd write up how I got where I am to day before proceeding, but having just come back from NASL 2 I need to write this stuff down before I forget it. I'll get back to all the other events of the year in the next post.

NASL Finals 2
First off, holy shit. Wow. This blog is not about which tournament is better, or even good, it's about getting involved, but I have to say this was a blast. Best tournament I've ever been to, hands down. (To clarify, I've been to: NASL1, MLG Anaheim, Blizzcon, MLG Orlando and MLG Providence) Ok, back to the real blog.

This event has been the most significant networking event yet.Other events have laid the groundwork, but this is where all the little pieces started to fall into place. There are a few reasons, but lets start with the big fun one :D :D

Live on 3
For those of you who were there, or watch Live on 3 that night, you may have seen (a slightly [moderately really] inebriated) me on stream for about 5 seconds. But who cares about that. What was amazing was that Scoots and Wheat brought up SC2Ratings.com on steam and chatted about it. This was HUGE - but I was out of the room when it happened, chatting with the GosuNews.com people (who are totally awesome. Shout out to Ian, Ben and Stephanie. You guys rock), and I haven't had a chance to watch it yet.

Why was this such a big win? It was only two guys chatting about my site for a minute, and I don't even know what they said. Well, there are two reasons. Firstly, and most obviously, this is one hell of a good plug. I know it's not state of the game, or a Day[9] daily, but Lo3 is big, and Wheat/Scoots are big. A plug like that increased our traffic 4x right away. We'll see how it works out as people catch the VOD, and see if they continue to use the site.

The other, slightly more important, reason this is such a big win, is because it means that I've actually started to build a rapport with Scoots and Wheat (henceforth known as Swheat => Sweet). The constant bumping into at parties, the short conversations and the countless drinks bought have paid off enough that when I say, "hey, I've got this site, take a look" they actually bothered to look, and look at it with actual interest.

Before I continue, I should say that had SC2Ratings been bad, Sweet wouldn't have done anything. They wouldn't have plugged something that wasn't worth it - I've had that conversation once, when Wheat subtlety let me know that the site looked like ass, and that it needed more work before it got promoted somewhere.

Anyway, back to the story. This is a mile stone. Yeah, I'm no rock star, I still have to be a little sly and weasel my way into things, but I can almost start to see a light at the end of the tunnel. This is the first time I've had a real glimmer of hope that I could really be involved - and it's through connections like these.

Players, Casters, and Staff
I've seen the same players at event after event. I always go up, shake their hand, chat a moment, and go on my way. Sometimes we do interviews, sometimes we have a drink at a party, sometimes they call my friend when he's sick and wish him well. This event showed that some of the players are starting to recognize me and some of my staff.

I wont use names, but there was a player we wanted to do an interview with - but we were third in line. So, we patiently sat and waited through the previous interviews. By the end of the second interview (which was the longest, most brutally boring interview ever), he was dead. He was bouncing his legs, rubbing his eyes, looking away, and clearly uncomfortable.

But, when it came our turn, he immediately recognized me from Providence. That same rapport that helped out so much with Sweet, really helped with this guy too. He smiled, we chatted, and he was visibly relaxed. We offered to do the interviews another time, but he sat down and gave an AMAZING interview. That connection from Providence carried over, and made him loosen up, crack a few jokes, and let some of his personality shine through (which doesn't often happen with this guy).

Staffers that I had met at other events went out of their way to come say hello (and gave me a press pass. Shhh don't tell Rus. =p) As you can see from above, Sweet now knows me by name. Primadog, who hates the limelight so I'll keep it short, made me tea, and gave me no end of great advice (I'm so sorry about the couch. Other people were up there using it when we left. I hope it all worked out). Albert gave me an awesome poster he painted

Something else that is becoming apparent, is that in getting to know the staff - players and casters instantly feel comfortable around us. After seeing us chatting with so much of the NASL staff, players and casters are much more receptive to chatting. I'm trying desperately to avoid specific names or well known situations, but I can feel the difference between walking though the player area at the beginning of the event, where I get some stray looks from players wondering (Is he really allowed back here?) to the end of the event where I could carry a conversation with them in the lounge.

Something super cool, but I can't really talk about it yet.
There was something else, something amazing, that happened at NASL on the topic of getting involved in the community, but I don't want to Jinx it. If some day, I say "Remember back at NASL 2, that cool thing that happened? Well it was this", you'll know what I'm talking about.

When I write about events in the future, I'm think I'm going to do a rundown of the people and organizations I've met so people can get an idea of how valuable it is to attend live events. So here are the people I ran into, be it a handshake and a hello, or having spent the whole event with them:
Primadog, Merza, Rus, Duran, Barbie, Mark, Muffin, Ian, Stephanie, Ben, Joe, Jay, Angela, <I can't believe I forgot your name, short Australian man. I'm so sorry>, AlpacaHenry, WombatSteave, HamsterBob, NormalPatrick, Ellen, Orb, Hero, Albert, Sheth, Demuslim, Strelok, Hasuobs, DJWhat, Cody, SirScoots, Gunrun, Sen, Jared, Bitter, Garret, Conrad, Seltzer, Torch, Thorzain, and about 10 other people who's names I cant remember right now. These are all people who are involved in one way or another in the community - most of them more so than me, a few around my level, and some who are also starting to break in. I also ran into dozens and dozens of general SC nerds who were awesome. I even met a guy who went to my high school like 5 years after me, and is friends with one of my closest friends little sister.

I cannot stress it enough, if you want to be involved, you need to attend live events - even if it's just your local Barcraft. You don't have a barcraft in your town? Make one; I'll put you in touch with people who can help you.

****
BrightSideSC2
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States85 Posts
December 06 2011 05:18 GMT
#2
Thanks for the write-up. I'm a little sad I didn't get to attend NASL 2 to say "hi" in person yet again. The site looks great now, btw! You're not kidding at all when you say "if you want to be involved, you need to attend live events" - I've personally met so many great people online whom I now know irl, and vice versa - because of getting out to events. I've built friendships, I've gotten others more heavily involved in the community, and have been able to help promote a hardworking person or 2 as well.

This community is the best, and I'm really glad things are moving forward for you!
@BrightSide_SC2 <-Fun twitter updates about ...Starcraft community stuff :D
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
December 06 2011 06:56 GMT
#3
20k watched the live Lo3 that night. It was a pretty big plug :D
Thank God and gunrun.
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
December 06 2011 07:51 GMT
#4
Meeting people is the best thing about live events.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
LotsofLuck
Profile Joined May 2011
United States62 Posts
December 06 2011 08:17 GMT
#5
Sounds pretty awesome dude! I really do need to attend a live event sometime, hopefully next semester. We'll see how school shapes up.
surfinbird1
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany999 Posts
December 06 2011 08:24 GMT
#6
Great job on working yourself up the "corporate" ladder Getting a plug this big is a huge deal and I have to say your site is amazing. Also, is there any possibility to watch the LO3 from that evening? I can't access the VOD from NASL without the season pass.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
December 06 2011 08:36 GMT
#7
I am sure it will get on onemoregame eventually
Thank God and gunrun.
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9152 Posts
December 06 2011 08:42 GMT
#8
Did you guys end up playing or finding mafia last night?
Photographer"nosotros estamos backamos" - setsuko
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
December 06 2011 08:49 GMT
#9
A lot of good advice for those who wants to "break-in" the industry. Just remember to have fun - pay your dues, make friends with everyone - and your "big break" will come.

Thank God and gunrun.
Destillat
Profile Joined February 2011
United States30 Posts
December 06 2011 08:57 GMT
#10
Hey man, Alex here. Mr. Australia was named Luke! Super cool guy and I'm really glad I got to see you again this finals and that everything worked out the way it did. I forget, are you in the LA area? If you are we should hang out!
"Right on!"
Koibu0
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States513 Posts
December 06 2011 15:30 GMT
#11
No, we were looking for Mafia, Gunrun found it (and bounced without us ), and then I had to got catch a flight. Elsea kept getting invited to everything (hmm wonder why), but she was asleep by the time the mafia room started up.

On December 06 2011 17:57 Destillat wrote:
Hey man, Alex here. Mr. Australia was named Luke! Super cool guy and I'm really glad I got to see you again this finals and that everything worked out the way it did. I forget, are you in the LA area? If you are we should hang out!

Damnit! I knew that. And it was AlpacaKevin, too, not AlpacaHenry... my god I'm so bad at names.
Artisane
Profile Joined April 2011
United States134 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 21:29:00
December 06 2011 21:28 GMT
#12
I totally agree. If you want to get involved in the community, the only way to do this is to attend community events. I was able to meet a TON of people there. Casters, staff, players, industry insiders, BarCraft organizers, etc. It was an incredible experience and I'm looking forward to seeing those people again the next event I'm able to make. (more west coast events please!!!)

I've already posted my thoughts and experiences on Reddit, so I won't go into it here, but I definately felt like a part of the event. I came to watch a Starcraft tournament, left feeling like part of the insider community.

My goals the next year are to get more into casting regularly and actually playing more. Doing both and meeting people at organized events can open up opportunities for bigger things.
Elsea
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7 Posts
December 08 2011 04:01 GMT
#13
On December 07 2011 00:30 Koibu0 wrote:
Elsea kept getting invited to everything (hmm wonder why), but she was asleep by the time the mafia room started up.
People need their rest, damn it!

BTW, where are you putting Albert's poster? Here's where his Reaper-chan ended up, above my stove! I thought above four gas burners would be the best place for her:



[image loading]



(all a direct result of going to live events. Seriously people, do it)
Koibu0
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States513 Posts
December 08 2011 04:17 GMT
#14
On December 08 2011 13:01 Elsea wrote:
BTW, where are you putting Albert's poster? Here's where his Reaper-chan ended up, above my stove! I thought above four gas burners would be the best place for her:


Donno. Have yet to get it framed. Where's an appropriate place for a Marauder?
Elsea
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7 Posts
December 08 2011 04:59 GMT
#15
Concussive shells and stimpack... first-aid cabinet.
Koibu0
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States513 Posts
December 08 2011 06:36 GMT
#16
Hahaha. If I had one, that's where it'd go.
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