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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 30 2011 18:21 GMT
#21
I've always been around. I just haven't always been so active in the BW LR threads. I would avoid them entirely because they used to be just as bad as the SC2 ones.

It's certainly refreshing from the stupid shit I see posted in the SC2 live reports. -_-

I'm really happy that the BW forums are so fucking clean now. We're like one big happy family.
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
November 30 2011 18:27 GMT
#22
Yeah I was reading that 2009 thread about Puma join ESTRO, pretty much the same as the SC2 forums nowadays minus the sheer quantity of posters.

But now, easily one of the best forums out there full stop for content, minus the whole SC2 vs BW debate flare ups.
Archvil3
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark989 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 18:29:28
November 30 2011 18:28 GMT
#23
Since I came to TL to follow SC2 a little more then a year ago I have been trying to follow SCBW every now and then. I have been watching some OSL and MSL finals and a bit of proleague as well. I have always found it to be a great game and been impressed by the players. That being said it is not MY game. I dont care much for it, I have no interest in who is winning and I have no real passion for it.

I am trying though, I am trying to learn to understand it and I am trying to spark an interest. I hope to see more streams with english commentary so that I can learn a bit more about it and then maybe at some point start carring about it. It is a great game afterall.

I feel like most of the new SC2 fans watching SCBW are as curious and intriqued as I am but is looking to find a passion for it as well.
Let thy speech be better than silence, or be silent.
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
November 30 2011 18:28 GMT
#24
I played broodwar many years ago, but I was young and stupid. I also had no idea that there was a competitive side of it. So then I stopped playing BW and moved on to many other games, until sc2 came out and this is when I accidentally discovered TL.

I'm not particularly good at sc2(or BW), and I don't enjoy playing that much, so I started watching streams of (sc2)players and tournaments. I started watching Sayle's stream about a month or two ago and I enjoyed it a lot. When the whole "Broodwar players switching to sc2" topic came up, I wanted to watch some Broodwar VODs and so did I. I really liked it, so when Sayle announced that he's gonna cast Proleague, I got excited.

Meaningless rambling aside, I really like Proleague so far. I have no idea if the games were actually "good" since I don't know BW builds and strats, but I enjoyed them all. I don't really know the players(besides the "big" ones, like Flash,JD,Stork etc) but I don't really mind that much. I will learn them slowly but surely!

TL;DR: BW is awesome, I need more of it
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
November 30 2011 18:42 GMT
#25
On December 01 2011 03:28 Archvil3 wrote:
Since I came to TL to follow SC2 a little more then a year ago I have been trying to follow SCBW every now and then. I have been watching some OSL and MSL finals and a bit of proleague as well. I have always found it to be a great game and been impressed by the players. That being said it is not MY game. I dont care much for it, I have no interest in who is winning and I have no real passion for it.

I am trying though, I am trying to learn to understand it and I am trying to spark an interest. I hope to see more streams with english commentary so that I can learn a bit more about it and then maybe at some point start carring about it. It is a great game afterall.

I feel like most of the new SC2 fans watching SCBW are as curious and intriqued as I am but is looking to find a passion for it as well.

Watch Sayle rebroadcasts if you don't know about them : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=286288 Next one starts in 2h20 minutes.
As for the LR threads, yeah they are a bit too civil, just wait till Bisu get eliminated in the next OSL, preferably by Shine, those threads are always the best :D
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
November 30 2011 18:51 GMT
#26
As others have mentioned Sayle's stream is really what helped me get into BW. I'd been playing both SC and BW back when they came quite a bit with friends and at PC cafés but never knew of a competitive scene back then.

When Starcraft 2 was announced I was obviously excited, having very good memories of the first starcraft games, and this was when I first was made aware of the huge korean BW scene. At first it all seemed a bit too confusing. I had no experience watching RTS or even playing them competitively. Instead I started watching SC2 beta casts.

Since SC2 was still in it's infancy, it was a lot easier to approach both as a spectator and as a player. There was even a lot of videos specifically aimed at people without any sort experience watching Starcraft. When the game released I got placed into platinum without any sort of RTS background which of course motivated me to play even more.

Then a few months ago I watched some BW VODs again. Last time I had watched any, it had all seemed confusing as hell, but now I could suddenly sense the depth of the game, appreciate the crisp execution and gasp at the awesome micro. I was hooked.

I have watched 3-4 games from the new season of PL already, and I'm sure I'll keep watching as much as I have time for. Now I just gotta fins myself a favourite team/players. I tried watching the korean broadcast but I must say I much prefer an english rebroadcast. Probably because I don't have the immense knowledge about BW strats I feel more confortable with someone holding my hand through it.

So in a time when people on the forums are screaming about the war between BW and SC2, I feel good saying I watch Brood War because I've played SC2, not in spite of
FractalsOnFire
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1756 Posts
November 30 2011 18:53 GMT
#27
If (P)Bisu gets eliminated by ANY zerg, watch the LR thread just explode. There are quite a few classic examples of people just going 'fuck BW'. But seriously (Z)hyvaa is a loser =P

I'm also quite enjoying the new format, seeing KT getting reverse killed twice in a row is an absolute joy to watch. Highly amusing too. It'll be interesting to see if they can even make the playoffs at this rate, players need to really step up. If they can make the top 4 maybe they start becoming all clutch like this year's playoffs. Otherwise i'll lol.
Phyrigian
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
New Zealand1332 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 18:59:24
November 30 2011 18:56 GMT
#28
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rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
November 30 2011 19:07 GMT
#29
On December 01 2011 02:43 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 01:40 rotinegg wrote:
On December 01 2011 01:39 TheKefka wrote:
On December 01 2011 01:37 rotinegg wrote:
On December 01 2011 01:32 TheKefka wrote:
Personally I love the part where they took out the ace match and now KT looses 3-2 back to back
Jokes aside,the best part about the PL is to find "your" team and that special player for yourself and cheer for them(apart from spectating the amazing games as well ofc)
+ Show Spoiler +
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This guy,will fuck you up!

+ Show Spoiler +
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T1 HWAIIIITING!!!!!!!!!!!

The only thing I don't understand is why there won't be a grand final:<

? yea there will be.. there will be two grand finals in fact

Really?:O
They way I understood it there will be 2 winners so I thought that there will be no finals for some reason.hmmm

two seasons, two winners


mm, in the past, they had the winner of each season play each other in a Grand Final. But this is ok too I guess

ooh is that right? I always thought it was just regular matches -> playoffs -> finals with a little Winners League interlude (with it's own playoff and finals) in the middle
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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3822 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 19:16:17
November 30 2011 19:14 GMT
#30
Really wanna get in to watching BW (Played it when I was like 9-10) But when is it streamed and where?
I have watched Pro7ect's stream (impressive speed), but I wanna watch it in obs mode like regular tournaments.

Inspired by threads like the recent one about HiyA.
Anyways, PM me if you wanna help. I feel that BW is more of a sport than SC2. (like most of you BW-guys) :D

Edit: Just read about Sayle and his youtube. NVM
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
November 30 2011 19:17 GMT
#31
It was all cool and shit until ACE beat KT wtf....
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 30 2011 19:18 GMT
#32
Flash cannot save them now ;o
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
November 30 2011 19:22 GMT
#33
PL+new people+fantasy PL+TL+Khan winning=e-orgasm
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
November 30 2011 19:30 GMT
#34
On December 01 2011 04:17 EtherealDeath wrote:
It was all cool and shit until ACE beat KT wtf....


sorry that was the best bit of the new season so far
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
November 30 2011 19:32 GMT
#35
I actually really enjoy listening to korean commentators over english commentators, their language is just so much more exciting. Though I generally can't watch it live so I'll just tune into Sayle's commentary later. But if I'm not doing anything in the following morning, I'm sooo staying up to watch it live :D. It's also really nice for a change of pace from sc2. And its really nice that the length isn't actually that long. sc2 tournaments go on for 3 days straight 12 hours a day, this is so much easier to follow than sc2 tournaments. Definitely glad I'm following this tournament!
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
RedJustice
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1004 Posts
November 30 2011 19:40 GMT
#36
One thing that I really hate is when the camera cuts to the player's face in the middle of a game. I guess maybe this is common practice or something? so it must not bother that many people, but for me it completely interrupts immersion in the game and drives me nuts. And it's not just that I don't know the players that well-- I would hate it even if it was my favorite player. I like how MLG has a tiny player cam in the bottom so you can watch if you want to without having the game interrupted. (But I like to see after they win of course.)

Other than that it's been pretty good. People always answer a question I have in stream chat. Some games are boring and some are exciting. I dunno the builds and such but I can follow along with my understanding from SC2, in terms of generally when someone's ahead and when someone is behind. It's really good they put up the overlay with resources and supply count cause that helps me a lot. XD Mostly I watch that and the minimap to figure out how the game is going. I am not familiar enough with units to tell just from watching the main screen.
Pvvned
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States409 Posts
November 30 2011 19:44 GMT
#37
On December 01 2011 04:30 Klonere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 04:17 EtherealDeath wrote:
It was all cool and shit until ACE beat KT wtf....


sorry that was the best bit of the new season so far

Yeah ACE beating KT actually made me liquibet on them instead of CJ Entus lol I'm a noob
http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/R1CH/Happy2.gif
impression
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
413 Posts
November 30 2011 19:46 GMT
#38
I really really wanted to watch, but I had exams T_T
But I came home and played the SC1 campaign to try and make up for it
행운을 빌어요 재미
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 19:54:55
November 30 2011 19:52 GMT
#39
On December 01 2011 04:40 RedJustice wrote:
One thing that I really hate is when the camera cuts to the player's face in the middle of a game. I guess maybe this is common practice or something? so it must not bother that many people, but for me it completely interrupts immersion in the game and drives me nuts. And it's not just that I don't know the players that well-- I would hate it even if it was my favorite player. I like how MLG has a tiny player cam in the bottom so you can watch if you want to without having the game interrupted. (But I like to see after they win of course.)

Other than that it's been pretty good. People always answer a question I have in stream chat. Some games are boring and some are exciting. I dunno the builds and such but I can follow along with my understanding from SC2, in terms of generally when someone's ahead and when someone is behind. It's really good they put up the overlay with resources and supply count cause that helps me a lot. XD Mostly I watch that and the minimap to figure out how the game is going. I am not familiar enough with units to tell just from watching the main screen.

Oftentimes the camera cuts to the players' face when they are in trouble (somebody called it the doom zoom, was it bibbit?) and it's quite funny when their distress shows through their facial expressions. For example,

At 6:32, ggaemo loses a muta-scourge-ling battle decisively and the camera zooms to show his dismay.

Other times, they show the winner if he is grinning or doing something funny while the game is being tied up and there's really not much to watch but their buildings getting destroyed. Example: [image loading]
(Source: prototype.'s LR thread)

It's good to look at the resource counters and minimap, but there's a lot more tactics and positioning involved on the battle field than the classic SC2-deathball-clash that more often than not just watching the battles itself is good. I'm glad you enjoy it
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Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
November 30 2011 19:53 GMT
#40
On December 01 2011 04:40 RedJustice wrote:
One thing that I really hate is when the camera cuts to the player's face in the middle of a game. I guess maybe this is common practice or something? so it must not bother that many people, but for me it completely interrupts immersion in the game and drives me nuts. And it's not just that I don't know the players that well-- I would hate it even if it was my favorite player. I like how MLG has a tiny player cam in the bottom so you can watch if you want to without having the game interrupted. (But I like to see after they win of course.)


This is something that I actually really liked because you can see the player's reactions at specific points in the game
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