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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50245 Posts
November 30 2011 16:12 GMT
#1
...So far

You guys are fucking awesome!

You came to us out of your own curiosity and to watch the awesomeness that is BW!

Its truly amazing how many new faces I've seen so far in the BW forums during the games watching and commenting on the LR threads(which I miss taking part in due to classes T_T) and god knows how many just lurking there while watching the streams not knowing whats going on until hours later Sayle brings back the days awesomeness in English for all the new fans(and the old ones because Sayle is awesome ♥).

so please you guys, share your experience, how has it been so far.

What did you like? What didn't you like?Have you watched Vods of the previous seasons?

so many questions, I guess I'm really excited that I don't feel like newbie on the forums anymore :p.

BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR SO DAMN FUNNN!!!!!!

BW4EVER!!!!!!!!

****
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
November 30 2011 16:15 GMT
#2
Yeah its cool when they pop up in the LR and stuff. Makes me happy that they decided to try it out. : )

And lol @ you finally dont feel like a newbie after 12k posts.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50245 Posts
November 30 2011 16:17 GMT
#3
On December 01 2011 01:15 Bibbit wrote:
Yeah its cool when they pop up in the LR and stuff. Makes me happy that they decided to try it out. : )

And lol @ you finally dont feel like a newbie after 12k posts.


in real value they are no more than 6k.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 16:35:21
November 30 2011 16:19 GMT
#4
your welcome. but I caught the end of last season (and OSL obv) too I just didn't talk to anyone.

^_^ + Show Spoiler +
(Z)WJDDN OR (Z)EffOrt OR (P)Sword 화이팅


whoa shit gets weird when you try to tlpd a korean name. I had no idea that even worked. That's amazing. TLPD staff are the greatest.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
November 30 2011 16:19 GMT
#5
Good shit, a lot like the resurgence in BW after Sc2 first got announced, though I think that was a lot of people coming back. A lot more new people this time, though they won't get to experience WL and MSL
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 16:26:12
November 30 2011 16:23 GMT
#6
I think after the whole SC BW dying discussions happened, a lot of people wanted to watch since there has been a LOT of BW talk leaking into SC2 discussions lately. It's great, and you can see that the scene is still incredibly big in Korea. Idk why, but there also seems to be even more people in Korea or at least more passion in these first few games. I'm not too sure how aware they are of BW's state or if they feel BW will die out soon in the same way a lot of international people seem to predict. But from what I saw, it's gonna be like much longer than a year for that to happen. Comparing SC2 to SC1 Korean scenes it's not even close.

Also, seems like the S class players are showing as dominating performances as ever (except jaedong's hiccups). Also nice to not hear shit about balance every god damn page.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 16:52:09
November 30 2011 16:32 GMT
#7
Personally I love the part where they took out the ace match and now KT looses 3-2 back to back
Jokes aside,the best part about the PL is to find "your" team and that special player for yourself and cheer for them(apart from spectating the amazing games as well ofc)
+ Show Spoiler +
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This guy,will fuck you up!

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
T1 HWAIIIITING!!!!!!!!!!!

I watched through pretty much the majority of last season,but never dared to post in LR's much because I was too much of a nub and had sooo many questions.But if you ask a question you actually get a lot of responses explaining to you what is the deal and no hostile posts like a lot of people think for some reason.
The only thing I don't understand is why there won't be a grand final:<
Cackle™
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
November 30 2011 16:37 GMT
#8
On December 01 2011 01:32 TheKefka wrote:
Personally I love the part where they took out the ace match and now KT looses 3-2 back to back
Jokes aside,the best part about the PL is to find "your" team and that special player for yourself and cheer for them(apart from spectating the amazing games as well ofc)
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
This guy,will fuck you up!

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
T1 HWAIIIITING!!!!!!!!!!!

The only thing I don't understand is why there won't be a grand final:<

? yea there will be.. there will be two grand finals in fact
Translator
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
November 30 2011 16:39 GMT
#9
On December 01 2011 01:37 rotinegg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 01:32 TheKefka wrote:
Personally I love the part where they took out the ace match and now KT looses 3-2 back to back
Jokes aside,the best part about the PL is to find "your" team and that special player for yourself and cheer for them(apart from spectating the amazing games as well ofc)
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
This guy,will fuck you up!

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
T1 HWAIIIITING!!!!!!!!!!!

The only thing I don't understand is why there won't be a grand final:<

? yea there will be.. there will be two grand finals in fact

Really?:O
They way I understood it there will be 2 winners so I thought that there will be no finals for some reason.hmmm
Cackle™
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
November 30 2011 16:40 GMT
#10
On December 01 2011 01:39 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 01:37 rotinegg wrote:
On December 01 2011 01:32 TheKefka wrote:
Personally I love the part where they took out the ace match and now KT looses 3-2 back to back
Jokes aside,the best part about the PL is to find "your" team and that special player for yourself and cheer for them(apart from spectating the amazing games as well ofc)
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
This guy,will fuck you up!

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
T1 HWAIIIITING!!!!!!!!!!!

The only thing I don't understand is why there won't be a grand final:<

? yea there will be.. there will be two grand finals in fact

Really?:O
They way I understood it there will be 2 winners so I thought that there will be no finals for some reason.hmmm

two seasons, two winners
Translator
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
November 30 2011 16:43 GMT
#11
anyting for my cute korean bois. bw bois >>>>> sc2 bois in terms of attractiveness. actually i don't even know why i'm in this thread, i never watch sc2 anyways.
:)
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 16:47:32
November 30 2011 16:44 GMT
#12
On December 01 2011 01:40 rotinegg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 01:39 TheKefka wrote:
On December 01 2011 01:37 rotinegg wrote:
On December 01 2011 01:32 TheKefka wrote:
Personally I love the part where they took out the ace match and now KT looses 3-2 back to back
Jokes aside,the best part about the PL is to find "your" team and that special player for yourself and cheer for them(apart from spectating the amazing games as well ofc)
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
This guy,will fuck you up!

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
T1 HWAIIIITING!!!!!!!!!!!

The only thing I don't understand is why there won't be a grand final:<

? yea there will be.. there will be two grand finals in fact

Really?:O
They way I understood it there will be 2 winners so I thought that there will be no finals for some reason.hmmm

two seasons, two winners

O SHIT LOL HAHAHA.
Everything makes sense now,I completely misunderstood now that I read it again http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=286214
For some reason I thought the 2 best teams will be declared the winners at the end and there will be no epic showdown to see who's the best.Made no sense that way.

This just made my day.Thank you!
Cackle™
Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
November 30 2011 16:49 GMT
#13
Sayle's restream of PL with english commentary is immensly helpful for sparking my interest in SCBW. Having someone tell you whats going on is waaay easier to follow than to start crawling around liquipedia trying to find the exact pieces of information. Also (and please bear with me here, I know a lot of the oldschool BW followers are really into their korean commentators, which is perfectly okay) it is easier to understand whats happening if you don't have to think, oh god commentators getting excited, wtf am I missing again. To me the korean commentators, as much energy and emotion they bring to the game, are just distracting me from trying to follow the action. And following the action is hard enough if you've, like me, never ever played a single 1v1 of BW in your life.

Everything I know about BW I learned from reading PL/MSL/OSL writeups on TL, and while the information there is really well organized and beginner friendly, it's incredibly hard to really retain all that information from a text. I love watching BW, I sometimes watched it before Sayle's rebroadcast, and loved it back then as well, but seeing the game, having a friendly person tell you whats happening, and actually understanding whats going on makes the whole experience 10 times better. I got into Sc2 through Husky and HD, and now Sayle is able to pull me further into the wonderful world of professional Brood War

What amazes me most about Broodwar is how incredibly mapped out every strategy is and how precise people are able to play and execite such a complicated game. That level of detail is just not there yet in SC2 and that is what makes wachting BW so amazing for me, it's a little bit of a look into the future, while looking at the past at the same time.

I want to take this opportunity to thank you Sayle, as well as every other person investing time to make TL the amazing Brood War Place it is. Each and every single one of you deserve a fucking award. I am sorry for not beeing able to call out people by name, but this well oiled BroodWar machine you?we? teamliquid anyways has going will never die as long as you are here, keeping it awesome!

If any of the above Text has offended you as a BW veteran, I want to humbly apologize. It is not my intention to spark controversy, I just want to express my love for 2 games that are entirely different, but at the same time a little bit similar as well If you're a SC2 person offended by this, man up and appreciate this wonderful game, without which "our" sc2 would not exist.
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
November 30 2011 16:52 GMT
#14
I watched a couple of matches last season and trying to follow it more closely now. For me BW is just sooo exciting to watch and especially now when i'm starting to understand more of it bit by bit.

Another awesome thing is finding out which team and player to root for. Which playstyles i like, what race etc etc. Havent figured that out completely yet as i've seen to little of it. Always watch Flash games, but on the same note i kinda like rooting a bit for an underdog. So that will take someone before im a fanboy of someone

Team8 fighting though haha
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 17:00:02
November 30 2011 16:59 GMT
#15
always watched BW*, only started posting because of sc2, there are alot of us out there like me. i can only hope you see that sc2 players just enjoy a good game no matter which platform (BW, SC2) and to stop criticizing sc2, when we also enjoy BW. ^^

*2005 on
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
November 30 2011 17:10 GMT
#16
I enjoy watch BW and its nice to get some helpful posts or comments in chat. But the only thing I as a SC2 entrant into the whole SC scene want is for people to stop shitting on SC2 and its players in the LR.

Some of the forum vets out there just enjoy being condescending and in general douchebags the few times I have stayed up for the live restreams of PL.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50245 Posts
November 30 2011 17:12 GMT
#17
On December 01 2011 01:49 eezyBash wrote:
Sayle's restream of PL with english commentary is immensly helpful for sparking my interest in SCBW. Having someone tell you whats going on is waaay easier to follow than to start crawling around liquipedia trying to find the exact pieces of information. Also (and please bear with me here, I know a lot of the oldschool BW followers are really into their korean commentators, which is perfectly okay) it is easier to understand whats happening if you don't have to think, oh god commentators getting excited, wtf am I missing again. To me the korean commentators, as much energy and emotion they bring to the game, are just distracting me from trying to follow the action. And following the action is hard enough if you've, like me, never ever played a single 1v1 of BW in your life.

Everything I know about BW I learned from reading PL/MSL/OSL writeups on TL, and while the information there is really well organized and beginner friendly, it's incredibly hard to really retain all that information from a text. I love watching BW, I sometimes watched it before Sayle's rebroadcast, and loved it back then as well, but seeing the game, having a friendly person tell you whats happening, and actually understanding whats going on makes the whole experience 10 times better. I got into Sc2 through Husky and HD, and now Sayle is able to pull me further into the wonderful world of professional Brood War

What amazes me most about Broodwar is how incredibly mapped out every strategy is and how precise people are able to play and execite such a complicated game. That level of detail is just not there yet in SC2 and that is what makes wachting BW so amazing for me, it's a little bit of a look into the future, while looking at the past at the same time.

I want to take this opportunity to thank you Sayle, as well as every other person investing time to make TL the amazing Brood War Place it is. Each and every single one of you deserve a fucking award. I am sorry for not beeing able to call out people by name, but this well oiled BroodWar machine you?we? teamliquid anyways has going will never die as long as you are here, keeping it awesome!

If any of the above Text has offended you as a BW veteran, I want to humbly apologize. It is not my intention to spark controversy, I just want to express my love for 2 games that are entirely different, but at the same time a little bit similar as well If you're a SC2 person offended by this, man up and appreciate this wonderful game, without which "our" sc2 would not exist.


you should also listen to NukeTheStars while he doesn't cast all PL games(hes is strictly an OSL guy) hes most awesome too!

can't wait for OSL to see him cast in full swing again.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
November 30 2011 17:21 GMT
#18
Started watching towards the end of last season, really enjoying it so far :D
Familiarising myself with more players (only knew the biggest names before), getting used to the more common strategies etc.

Watching BW for me is like watching SC2 without my glasses on, I can't really tell whats going on, I don't know what units are what but the commentary gets me excited!

Always admired the game from afar but I've been trying to watch it whenever it's on and then catch Sayle's english casts when I get a chance to try to learn more.
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
November 30 2011 17:43 GMT
#19
On December 01 2011 01:40 rotinegg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 01:39 TheKefka wrote:
On December 01 2011 01:37 rotinegg wrote:
On December 01 2011 01:32 TheKefka wrote:
Personally I love the part where they took out the ace match and now KT looses 3-2 back to back
Jokes aside,the best part about the PL is to find "your" team and that special player for yourself and cheer for them(apart from spectating the amazing games as well ofc)
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
This guy,will fuck you up!

+ Show Spoiler +
&#91;image loading&#93;
T1 HWAIIIITING!!!!!!!!!!!

The only thing I don't understand is why there won't be a grand final:<

? yea there will be.. there will be two grand finals in fact

Really?:O
They way I understood it there will be 2 winners so I thought that there will be no finals for some reason.hmmm

two seasons, two winners


mm, in the past, they had the winner of each season play each other in a Grand Final. But this is ok too I guess
Writer
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
November 30 2011 18:18 GMT
#20
I picked a random team to follow all season long, to spice things up (despite being a CJ fan back in ~2008 when I was kind of following the scene).

I got STX

T_T

My favourite series so far was ACE vs KT, some sloppy play but it was awesome to see ACE do so well, really enjoyed Piano's and FBH games ^^

SC2 has awesome live fans but we need Korean fangirls (although at Providence you could hear a fair few girls cheering for HuK )

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