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my mom is telling me to be a gold digger - Page 7

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itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 00:03:42
November 25 2011 00:00 GMT
#121
One way chivalry I feel is dying out, especially as women become more and more independent. I think relationships work best when there is equal contribution from both parties in terms of generosity and chivalry

Edit: To address your problem, I feel like you just need to express your feelings to your mom about how you want to know you've earned what you got. Thats a sentiment anyone can respect.
=)=
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
November 25 2011 00:02 GMT
#122
It is a continuation as the greed manifests as accumulation rather than spending. I'm not saying that being frugal is greed in itself, but that the greed within the Eastern context has to be seen within the form of accumulation. It still is a greed as it is the desire to be stable and increase value. You're talking as if there isn't a greed involved in desiring for cementing a familial relationship that will grant you financial and societal benefits. Just because it's different from the general Western manifestations of greed doesn't mean that it isn't greed. This is why this sort of apologia is such nonsense; "our problems don't manifest in the way it does in the West, so we don't have problems".

We can keep believing that, turning a blind eye to how monstrously materialistic our motherlands have become in our generation.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 00:15:06
November 25 2011 00:13 GMT
#123
On November 25 2011 04:24 kierpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 22:52 StarStruck wrote:
Two questions (hopefully you debunk these myths):

1) Is your mom Asian or Jewish?
2) Do you live around the OC, or a place close by?

Those are the two things that popped into my head as soon as I started reading your blog. O;

So, apparently HK. I <3 Hong Kong because everything is so cheap there. Too many knock-offs for my taste though. Yet we're talking about gold digging ha, ha, ha.


My mom is Chinese -- born in the states (as were her parents).

I live near San Francisco. My family has always been somewhat around that area.


I've never been to HK. :\ I don't even have relatives in HK because the good majority of my mom's side of the family lives in the states. I have no idea about my dad's side.


Ah, so those comments were based off your friends from Taiwan and Hong Kong. 3rd generation. Fair enough. I guess the melting pot analogy doesn't work in this case.

Considering you are 21 and he's 28. I guess your parents just hope that he can pull his weight. I would expect someone to be well on their way at that age anyway.

On November 25 2011 04:33 kierpanda wrote:
My boyfriend doesn't pay for everything* because I don't let him. :'D

We typically share the costs for everything (aside for the occasional date night or birthdays, anniversaries, etc.)

He definitely has better savings than I do -- but that's because he's spent a longer time in the workforce than I have. I'm still paying off student loans and what-not.

He does pay his own rent, car, and expenses. And I do as well (we don't live together right now).


My mom isn't that traditional though, which is weird. :<


*everything meaning variable things like food costs.




Just the way it should be.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 25 2011 00:16 GMT
#124
I don't see why he cannot pay for you when he is 7 years older.
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
November 25 2011 01:33 GMT
#125
You should be independent, and I'm surprised your mom is not being Chinese... (s she from taiwan?)
I think you have a healthy look on life and relationships. When I was in one my gf ad I always split the cost, and we're both Chinese fyi.
Live strong willed! :D
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Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
November 25 2011 01:44 GMT
#126
Your parents are Asian... nuff said.

Maybe it's in my asian genes too, as a guy, whenever I take a girl out, I would generally offer to pay for food/travel etc. I know it sounds a bit dumb and stupid, but that's just my own little code I follow. It just feels too damn awkward to ask to split bills and stuff.

But, I can see why have equal contributions means alot to relationships, as there's no real bread winner now-a-days with couples.
sup
Aelonius
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands432 Posts
November 25 2011 02:15 GMT
#127
On November 24 2011 17:55 Rekrul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 17:54 kierpanda wrote:
On November 24 2011 17:46 Ludrik wrote:
On November 24 2011 17:42 kierpanda wrote:
On November 24 2011 17:37 igotmyown wrote:
I thought you were actually going to tell us her advice on how to be a gold digger. Maybe there were some super evil gold digging secrets.


Be from Taiwan or HK?

Just kidding! :'D

But that's typically the stereotype, unfortunately. :\ My older brother dated a Taiwanese girl. Damn, that girl was spoiled. My brother bought her an expensive Tiffany's necklace a few months after they were dating.

My brother is also a moron/tool.

So....

I think there's some truth to that stereotype. My girlfriends from Hong Kong and while she isn't a gold digger, f*&# me her sister is. Talking about using your body for money. Very dated concept imo.


I went to school with a few girls from HK -- all they do is show off their newest designer bag or boots or whatever. My facebook newsfeed used to be cluttered with this former classmate's pictures of her new Tiffany jewelry and Juicy Couture clothes.

I know not all girls are like that, but the ones who are ... yuck.


judging these girls off that makes you yuck, not them


She's not even that judgemental.
I would say, come to the Netherlands for a long while, and you'll see how much dutch people judge on outer looks and behaviour. This is nothing.
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Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 02:43:02
November 25 2011 02:42 GMT
#128
I'm chivalrous as fuck- I want to be the one paying.
But if she reeeeeealllly wants to pay (and I mean like she won't back down) then I let her.

(On another note, I wouldn't mind being a gold-digger... kekeke)
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
kierpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States757 Posts
November 25 2011 05:17 GMT
#129
On November 25 2011 09:13 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 04:24 kierpanda wrote:
On November 24 2011 22:52 StarStruck wrote:
Two questions (hopefully you debunk these myths):

1) Is your mom Asian or Jewish?
2) Do you live around the OC, or a place close by?

Those are the two things that popped into my head as soon as I started reading your blog. O;

So, apparently HK. I <3 Hong Kong because everything is so cheap there. Too many knock-offs for my taste though. Yet we're talking about gold digging ha, ha, ha.


My mom is Chinese -- born in the states (as were her parents).

I live near San Francisco. My family has always been somewhat around that area.


I've never been to HK. :\ I don't even have relatives in HK because the good majority of my mom's side of the family lives in the states. I have no idea about my dad's side.


Ah, so those comments were based off your friends from Taiwan and Hong Kong. 3rd generation. Fair enough. I guess the melting pot analogy doesn't work in this case.

Considering you are 21 and he's 28. I guess your parents just hope that he can pull his weight. I would expect someone to be well on their way at that age anyway.

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 04:33 kierpanda wrote:
My boyfriend doesn't pay for everything* because I don't let him. :'D

We typically share the costs for everything (aside for the occasional date night or birthdays, anniversaries, etc.)

He definitely has better savings than I do -- but that's because he's spent a longer time in the workforce than I have. I'm still paying off student loans and what-not.

He does pay his own rent, car, and expenses. And I do as well (we don't live together right now).


My mom isn't that traditional though, which is weird. :<


*everything meaning variable things like food costs.




Just the way it should be.


Yes, the HK and Taiwan stereotypes are what I've learned from friends who lived in both areas. To some extent, I kind of understand, since a lot of the HK and Taiwanese girls I've met in college were very snooty and materialistic. Just their attitude about money just rubbed me the wrong way.

I cook things! :3 | Twitter: @kierpanda | www.eatgamelive.com
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
November 25 2011 06:28 GMT
#130
'I personally hate the idea of the man having to carry the weight of the relationship and provide for the woman. I didn't go through higher education for the purpose of getting a job to get married and become a dead weight. '

This so much. As a fellow woman I think it's sweet when guys offer to pay for the odd meal/giving me surprise gifts etc, but the idea of someone paying for things like my ultility bills/phone etc strikes me as really selfish on my part.

I also like to surprise people (guys and girls) by buying them a meal, or some random present just because. If someone buys me something then I think it's only fair to get something in return for them/treat them the next time we're out together. Just remembering how happy their kindness made me feel is enough to motivate me to do something for them too.

If I was in a relationship (not that I plan on getting into that situation ever.) I'd feel weird about not paying for my own basic obligations. Splitting things down the middle/coming up with a similarly fair plan is definitely preferable.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
November 25 2011 06:34 GMT
#131
If the date goes well, I pretty much always offer to pay on the first date, because it's worth the money to find out a little about the person. If she just lets me without any hint of protest, that's not very cool. Putting up some of a fight but eventually caving is OK, insisting on half half is even better. I've only had two dates ever where the girl insisted on paying for everything, but good reasons both times.
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lim1017
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1278 Posts
November 25 2011 07:34 GMT
#132
I wish my gf wouldn't let me pay for stuff.

If I ever have a daughter that's the #1 lesson I will teach her
phiinix
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 07:45:23
November 25 2011 07:41 GMT
#133
Agreeeeeeee.

Definitely think it's a new age thing. When I was cashier at a cafe, I remember one couple specifically who came in semi regularly and took turns paying, while all the "older" dates were exclusively men paying for the meal. It's one of those weird things that'll get adjusting to as women become more independent in the world, because for a lot of guys it's a pride thing. I know a friend who dislikes it when he goes out with a girl (on a date or with a friend who happens to be a girl) and they try to pay. He just feels like it's a gentlemen thing to do to pay for a girl and I feel kind of the same way to. I suppose it's in context though. The idea of special occasions like specific date nights and birthdays is so spot on.


tl;dr: happens more for newer couples than older. Some guys still do it for pride/chivalry(guys watch chick flicks too). You're awesome.
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
November 25 2011 07:45 GMT
#134
Lol 3rd gen abc? You're grandparents mustve came hella early.
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Sky101
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States1758 Posts
November 25 2011 09:52 GMT
#135
I'm kinda old school in the sense that I'd like to provide for my girl. That being said, she is appreciative of my support and never takes it for granted, or taken advantage of me. I think as long as the couple have a mutual understanding/agreement on all things (spiritual/financial/values...) that should be more important than following any other people's advice on your relationship approach.
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Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
November 25 2011 12:41 GMT
#136
I would love to have a girl pay for everything if she happens to be better of than me. As long as you're not being sexist, i.e. acting a certain way because you do or do not have a penis. That shit is fucked up.
I
kierpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States757 Posts
November 25 2011 21:49 GMT
#137
On November 25 2011 16:45 iSometric wrote:
Lol 3rd gen abc? You're grandparents mustve came hella early.


Yep. They bounced before shit went down in China. :<
I believe they worked as furriers in SF or something.
I cook things! :3 | Twitter: @kierpanda | www.eatgamelive.com
MetalMarine
Profile Joined June 2007
United States1559 Posts
November 25 2011 22:53 GMT
#138
Gold diggers are only good for one thing... LOL
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