EPTUnderstanding that you are bad. - Page 2
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Chef
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Biff The Understudy
France7883 Posts
On November 22 2011 03:54 Chef wrote: You're still bad. That's what I thought: "I understood that I had an ego problem and that I was bad and then I became good." Ooops seems I just reproduced my ego problem. See you in two month when you hit an other brick wall. Why people care so much about being "good" or "bad". Just enjoy the game for Christ Sake. I'm sure you have better opportunities in life than Starcraft to prove yourself you are worth something (ideally you don't have to prove yourself anything, but that's an other question). When people who don't know BW very well were playing against me, they were always thinking I was a god of Starcraft. When I was playing against a B player, I was a complete noob. I never cared about either of them. I knew I was good enough to enjoy, and the reason I wanted to improve has never because my ipenis would grow, but rather because the process of learning was fun. There are very good players around who never managed to quit this mindset of "I'm a fucking badass", and who, despite their huge talent never achieved anything because when they were losing or winning were all about "I'm better I shouldn't lose" or crap like that. Some people find it funny, for me this ego-fest bullshit is the best way to never achieve anything at all. I don't really need to name anyone. | ||
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zZygote
Canada898 Posts
I've always had an egotistic mindset, but I never let the game get to me, ladder is meant to be fun. | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
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OmniEulogy
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Poopi
France12790 Posts
On November 22 2011 04:09 zZygote wrote: Upon learning the pts needed to reach a promotion, I think the only thing in people's minds is how to play MORE games than winning them. As we all know, the system will benefit the player in the end to make them 50/50 or close to at least, so eventually everyone will get a promotion. o_o. No? You will have the same ratio but your MMR will be lower, thus you won't be promoted nor demoted... | ||
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Cycle
United States300 Posts
It takes a lot of guts to write something about this admitting your own weakness. I think it's really important that the player themselves recognizes their own faults, and seeks out ways to improve. I also encounter a bunch of condescending master league players as well, but whenever I watch replays of myself playing against them, I notice that they're also really bad lol. glglglgl on the road to high masters :D | ||
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
But yeah, just because I'm Masters now doesn't mean I'm "good" at all. Let me tell you guys what I witnessed two days ago. I was at MLG Providence and watched DRG play on the main stage. In the venue they also have the POV of each player over the booths so we can see what the game looks like on their screen. Guys DRG's mechanics are ridiculous. Like everyone else who is not a pro, or even just not on DRG's monster level- are leagues below him. I couldn't believe how fast his mousespeed and accuracy was. I never in my life have seen someone play so well mechanically. I might be praising my own mechanics in my blog, but seriously it's complete garbage compared to these guys. I probably will never get to DRG's level of skill, but I at least I know where I stand. I'm probably one of the few weird people who stream just for the sole purpose of re-watching my POV. My handle on the mouse was horrible like 2 months ago, and 2 months ago I thought I had pretty "good" mechanics lol. So we're always improving, I know that I may be thinking that I'm playing a lot better now, but there's still an entire continent's worth of improvement to go. | ||
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Linz
Belgium151 Posts
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SkyBlaze
Canada191 Posts
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.Sic.
Korea (South)497 Posts
On November 22 2011 04:01 Biff The Understudy wrote: That's what I thought: "I understood that I had an ego problem and that I was bad and then I became good." Ooops seems I just reproduced my ego problem. See you in two month when you hit an other brick wall. Why people care so much about being "good" or "bad". Just enjoy the game for Christ Sake. I'm sure you have better opportunities in life than Starcraft to prove yourself you are worth something (ideally you don't have to prove yourself anything, but that's an other question). When people who don't know BW very well were playing against me, they were always thinking I was a god of Starcraft. When I was playing against a B player, I was a complete noob. I never cared about either of them. I knew I was good enough to enjoy, and the reason I wanted to improve has never because my ipenis would grow, but rather because the process of learning was fun. There are very good players around who never managed to quit this mindset of "I'm a fucking badass", and who, despite their huge talent never achieved anything because when they were losing or winning were all about "I'm better I shouldn't lose" or crap like that. Some people find it funny, for me this ego-fest bullshit is the best way to never achieve anything at all. I don't really need to name anyone. Dayum wut... you can go without hitting a brick wall for 2 months? I hit one like every 4 hours LOL Emotions really need to stay out of sc2, one needs to keep the head cool and bring out the best of one's problem solving skills. Maybe emotions can feed your motivation to get better, but it shouldn't get past that. | ||
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Cycle
United States300 Posts
On November 22 2011 04:55 Snuggles wrote: I was at MLG Providence and watched DRG play on the main stage. In the venue they also have the POV of each player over the booths so we can see what the game looks like on their screen. Guys DRG's mechanics are ridiculous. Like everyone else who is not a pro, or even just not on DRG's monster level- are leagues below him. I couldn't believe how fast his mousespeed and accuracy was. I never in my life have seen someone play so well mechanically. I might be praising my own mechanics in my blog, but seriously it's complete garbage compared to these guys. I probably will never get to DRG's level of skill, but I at least I know where I stand. Yeah. When we watch pros play it's all like "wow look at his control" or "look at how he positioned his army for the upcoming attack" and we take for granted the fact that these guys are macroing behind it. Their macro and mechanics are SO GOOD that it seems like it's being done for them, setting up their 3rd and 4th while harassing, making units, injecting, hitting all their pylons, building turrets on time, etc. I played some games after watching MLG Providence and was like, wow, this is hard. | ||
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Jonas :)
United States511 Posts
On November 22 2011 04:55 Snuggles wrote: Hey guys, thanks for the comments I'm surprised at all the positive feedback. I'm not much of a writer so I'm glad some of you guys thought it was a good read. But yeah, just because I'm Masters now doesn't mean I'm "good" at all. Let me tell you guys what I witnessed two days ago. I was at MLG Providence and watched DRG play on the main stage. In the venue they also have the POV of each player over the booths so we can see what the game looks like on their screen. Guys DRG's mechanics are ridiculous. Like everyone else who is not a pro, or even just not on DRG's monster level- are leagues below him. I couldn't believe how fast his mousespeed and accuracy was. I never in my life have seen someone play so well mechanically. I might be praising my own mechanics in my blog, but seriously it's complete garbage compared to these guys. I probably will never get to DRG's level of skill, but I at least I know where I stand. I'm probably one of the few weird people who stream just for the sole purpose of re-watching my POV. My handle on the mouse was horrible like 2 months ago, and 2 months ago I thought I had pretty "good" mechanics lol. So we're always improving, I know that I may be thinking that I'm playing a lot better now, but there's still an entire continent's worth of improvement to go. A bit off topic, but if you like watching really fast players play (and who doesn't) you should check out the (now former) broodwar pro Hiya's Stream. My god he is good, lol | ||
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HTX
Germany265 Posts
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
This happened to tons of people on PGT and ICCUP but it was way more exaggerated and pronounced. A guy who stomped bnet pubs and logged on ICCUP and was D+ for 3 seasons in a row really couldn't do anything but feel helpless looking at his own skill gap. The gap between D+ and C- even was oceans apart, let alone A- or Olympic players. If you never played bw ladders then now you understand why so many bw players were saying C+ players were almost guaranteed sc2 masters. | ||
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tarpman
Canada718 Posts
On November 22 2011 01:16 Snuggles wrote: Being in High Diamond means you're doing a lot of things right, but a few things wrong to not get promoted. The longer you are in High Diamond, the more stubborn you really are to adapting your play. Wise words! I recently went through a really unhappy time where my mind was completely closed and all I would do was play more and more greedy, with the mindset that I "just" had to macro more and I would start winning. That period is over now but it lasted long enough that I came very close to a demotion to platinum. Now I am working hard on identifying and fixing the massive holes in my play and my rank is climbing again. I hope other players who are struggling with the mindset that they "should" be beating their opponents read this blog! | ||
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
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