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Which camera to buy for my wife's push present?

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zekie
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada380 Posts
November 20 2011 17:32 GMT
#1
If you're like most people i talk to, right now you're wondering "what the hell is a push present".

Well apparently its a present that shes "entitled" to after she pushes out our baby. I've never heard of this but what the hell. She's going through a lot having our child, why not get a good present out of it.

The baby is due on April 1st which would make both my wife and the baby an aries. I looked up the birthstone because I thought it would be really nice to get her a nice ring with their birthstone. Figures though...Aries' birthstone is a diamond. how unoriginal. So I was talking with one of her friends and she came up with a great idea. A new camera.

I couldn't believe I didn't think about this since we've been wanting a new camera for about a year now and the time of the present couldn't be better.

So, now that I've decided what I want to buy her, the problem is which one to buy her. Sadly, I know nothing about cameras. I've been trying to do some research, but I'm not really getting anywhere so I figured a good place to start asking would be TL since it has such a good community.

Since we're trying to save for a lot of baby stuff, I'm trying to keep the price down for a bit (but I also might buy a nicer one which she is going to be finished her nursing degree around the start of april if everything goes well) and mix it with her graduation present.

I read that the DSLR camera's are the best way to go because they are a good all-around camera. They can take good action shots and also good macro/still shots (which I think I will eventually have to get a lense to do if she wants to get really high quality macro shots).

She likes good name brands so I was thinking that Canon would be a good choice of camera's since I seem to see the most of those and lots of advertising for them, but please correct me if I'm wrong. I want to make sure that she's able to take good pictures of our dog and any other sports that we're watching or playing, so I read up on what you need to take good action shots. Apparently 3 of the main things you want are fast autofocus, high ISO performance and continuous speed. I know how to find how many images it can take per second, but I don't know what a good autofocus or a good ISO performance would be.

This is why i turned to TL because I know we have great photographers in the community that may be willing to give me a hand.

I was thinking of spending around $400-$1000 (canadian) on the camera and when I look at camera features and specifications I just get lost.

any advice would be very much appreciated.

TLDR - I want to buy a DSLR camera that is overall good for all types of shots (guess I might have to get new lenses?) and spend between $400-$1000 canadian for my wife's push present.

P.S. I suck at writing so I'm sorry if i masacred the grammar and sentence structure etc.

mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
November 20 2011 17:40 GMT
#2
DSLRs are generally pricey, but the real cost is in the lenses. Lenses are SO expensive.

I have a camera after wanting a DSLR, but didn't want to dish out for the pricey camera and the lenses.

I opted for a camera that takes close to DSLR quality pictures, but it's compact like a regular digital camera, and is of VERY good quality.

Sony DSC-HX9

People who have DSLRs comment on how good the quality of the pictures are. Kind of a nice compromise IMO.
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ImDrizzt
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway427 Posts
November 20 2011 17:49 GMT
#3

Women get so lazy after they pushed a few times, get her a scrap book, have her draw or something instead.
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ImDrizzt
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway427 Posts
November 20 2011 17:49 GMT
#4
Add some crayons maybe, that'll surprise her.
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jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
November 20 2011 18:32 GMT
#5
if she's new to cameras why not just get a point and shoot?

if you're dead set on a dslr.. Look into a Nikon d3100 or canon t3 (not t3i)

I think they're good entry level and you can buy them right now for under $500 with a decent starter lens. Make sure you get the starter lens with it since you need one of those anyways and they're cheaper with it. If she never gets too deep into photography it'll probably be the only one shell ever need.

if she needs anything more than either of those... She should know enough about them. Just ask her or get her a gift card or something. By the time you outgrow something like those you would've developed some preferences anyways. Just let her pick.
zekie
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada380 Posts
November 20 2011 18:37 GMT
#6
On November 21 2011 03:32 jacosajh wrote:
if she's new to cameras why not just get a point and shoot?

if you're dead set on a dslr.. Look into a Nikon d3100 or canon t3 (not t3i)

I think they're good entry level and you can buy them right now for under $500 with a decent starter lens. Make sure you get the starter lens with it since you need one of those anyways and they're cheaper with it. If she never gets too deep into photography it'll probably be the only one shell ever need.

if she needs anything more than either of those... She should know enough about them. Just ask her or get her a gift card or something. By the time you outgrow something like those you would've developed some preferences anyways. Just let her pick.


I don't want to get just a point and shoot camera because she is passionate about photography and has been getting into it a lot more within the last 6 months so I want her to be able to learn about her camera and have the option to do what she wants.

so is it just better to start with a beginner camera instead of learning on an intermediate? how much picture quality would be sacraficed if i did this?
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
November 20 2011 18:46 GMT
#7
1) dslr will be expensive if you want to get a 'complete' package, ie with a zoom lens for far away photography
especially in canada! i would recommend a trip across the border if possible

2) with a baby coming, i highly recommend a dslr if you want crazy fuck awesome pictures.
im going to dump links from an american retailer just so you can get an idea of pricing differences

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/753760-REG/Canon_5169B001_EOS_Rebel_T3i_Digital.html
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/12142-USA/Canon_2514A002_Normal_EF_50mm_f_1_8.html
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/543923-USA/Canon_2044B002AA_EF_S_55_250mm_f_4_5_6_IS.html

T3i - widely acclaimed entry level camera, widely accepted as much better than cheaper t3
50mm lens - allows you take photos like this: http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=canon 50mm 1.8 baby&s=int
55-200 for zoom photography

why canon over nikon:
the canon 50mm lens is much cheaper than the nikon
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zekie
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada380 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 18:58:09
November 20 2011 18:53 GMT
#8
oh I was meaning to ask does a DSLR camera come with a basic lens? or do I buy the type of lens I want with the camera before she can start using it?

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Canon-EOS-REBEL-T3-18-55mm-II-Digital-Camera-NEW-/160586826823?pt=Digital_Cameras&hash=item2563b88447

i just found this on ebay. does it seem like a good deal?
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
November 20 2011 19:03 GMT
#9
they have kits which come with a 18-55 mm lens.

the difference is that the 50mm 'prime' lens will give you much better picture quality than the kit lens. also that depth-of-field "blur" effect. and it ends up being around the same price anyways.
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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
November 20 2011 19:10 GMT
#10
On November 21 2011 03:53 zekie wrote:
oh I was meaning to ask does a DSLR camera come with a basic lens? or do I buy the type of lens I want with the camera before she can start using it?

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Canon-EOS-REBEL-T3-18-55mm-II-Digital-Camera-NEW-/160586826823?pt=Digital_Cameras&hash=item2563b88447

i just found this on ebay. does it seem like a good deal?


end total (price + shipping + tax) will only be marginally cheaper than buying it locally
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zekie
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada380 Posts
November 20 2011 19:13 GMT
#11
On November 21 2011 04:10 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 03:53 zekie wrote:
oh I was meaning to ask does a DSLR camera come with a basic lens? or do I buy the type of lens I want with the camera before she can start using it?

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Canon-EOS-REBEL-T3-18-55mm-II-Digital-Camera-NEW-/160586826823?pt=Digital_Cameras&hash=item2563b88447

i just found this on ebay. does it seem like a good deal?


end total (price + shipping + tax) will only be marginally cheaper than buying it locally


even from canada? I don't live very close to the border so going there isn't really possible.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
November 20 2011 19:19 GMT
#12
try best buy
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Inzek
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Chile802 Posts
November 20 2011 19:29 GMT
#13
imo if you dont know what ISO is dont get a DSLR, also DSLR are heavy (so not really handful when photographing babies, and going around a lot), imo get a really good point and shoot,
http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/collection/1603/top_10_point_and_shoot_cameras.html
a friend has the first one, really good pics, also a friend who works as a photographer said it was the camera he recommend to "new" people.

with all the tech around, is amazing how good photos are more often bout the photographer than the camera
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jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
November 20 2011 19:43 GMT
#14
If you can afford a T3i and don't mind paying the premium over T3, and anything else under it, it'll be well worth it. For most people, I don't think they'd ever need anything more than that. So even if she gets really into cameras and editing, it'll be a camera she can grow into for quite some time and probably not grow out of.

If she outgrows a T3i, get ready to pay some serious cash. But you can make some serious cash as well, so it kinda balances out.
zekie
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada380 Posts
November 20 2011 19:59 GMT
#15
On November 21 2011 04:29 Inzek wrote:
imo if you dont know what ISO is dont get a DSLR, also DSLR are heavy (so not really handful when photographing babies, and going around a lot), imo get a really good point and shoot,
http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/collection/1603/top_10_point_and_shoot_cameras.html
a friend has the first one, really good pics, also a friend who works as a photographer said it was the camera he recommend to "new" people.

with all the tech around, is amazing how good photos are more often bout the photographer than the camera


We both really enjoy photography so wouldn't getting a lower end DSLR be more helpful for when we are learning and becoming better? I assumed a DSLR would be more adjustable than a point and shoot.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
November 20 2011 21:10 GMT
#16
Since you're still a beginner, you might want to get something easier to use. Maybe a Sony Nex 5N? It's small, the quality is as good as DSLR, and it's more friendly to use for newbies.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonynex5n/
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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
November 20 2011 21:15 GMT
#17
On November 21 2011 06:10 T.O.P. wrote:
Since you're still a beginner, you might want to get something easier to use. Maybe a Sony Nex 5N? It's small, the quality is as good as DSLR, and it's more friendly to use for newbies.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonynex5n/


and just as expensive :p
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character180
Profile Joined March 2011
United States8 Posts
November 20 2011 23:18 GMT
#18
get her a video camera to record the little moments with your child.
a lot of dslrs dont really come with good autofocus when shooting video, and you really shouldnt be married to someone who posts 4000 pictures of their newborn on facebook everyday.
so capture the moments, create home videos.

but re:canon vs nikon.
any entry level will do for either.
novoflex offers an adapter for both that lets you use lenses from both
and you only should really be spending money on lenses if you know how to shoot in manual with focus and settings, so its not really a concern which brand you get.
go to a store and feel it out, see which ones feel better for you.

congratulations on your soon-to-be newborn.

youngrippark
kierpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States757 Posts
November 20 2011 23:26 GMT
#19
Congrats! :D

I have an Olympus E-PL1.

http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_section/product.asp?product=1501

I purchased mine off Amazon for about $350USD. It's a pretty nice entry-level DSLR. It's also pretty small, so your wife can fit it in her purse. Lens is changable too.

I believe it takes HD videos as well.
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rainfable
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States171 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 23:45:15
November 20 2011 23:42 GMT
#20
On November 21 2011 03:46 a176 wrote:
1) dslr will be expensive if you want to get a 'complete' package, ie with a zoom lens for far away photography
especially in canada! i would recommend a trip across the border if possible

2) with a baby coming, i highly recommend a dslr if you want crazy fuck awesome pictures.
im going to dump links from an american retailer just so you can get an idea of pricing differences

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/753760-REG/Canon_5169B001_EOS_Rebel_T3i_Digital.html
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/12142-USA/Canon_2514A002_Normal_EF_50mm_f_1_8.html
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/543923-USA/Canon_2044B002AA_EF_S_55_250mm_f_4_5_6_IS.html

T3i - widely acclaimed entry level camera, widely accepted as much better than cheaper t3
50mm lens - allows you take photos like this: http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=canon 50mm 1.8 baby&s=int
55-200 for zoom photography

why canon over nikon:
the canon 50mm lens is much cheaper than the nikon


^ I'm going to just agree with most, if not all of the stuff on the above post right here, lol.

I currently own a Canon Rebel XSi (which is 12MP, less than the T3i actually), and I'm using it with a 50mm 1.8 (linked above), as well as a 10-22mm 3.5-4.5 (super wide angle zoom) that I purchased awhile back at a discounted price.
Those are my only two lenses right now sadly, since I was in the process of saving for the Canon 5DM2. :k

The 50mm is really, really useful.. I find myself using it way more than the 10-22mm because the 50mm just produces such nice photos, and the autofocus is just so nice to me lol. Plus, I don't really need such wide range that often since I'm always taking indoor pictures (and I assume you'll be taking many of those too, with the newborn and all). The 50mm is also really nicely priced at ~$110 for the pictures it can take.. amazing investment imo.

About the size and weight of the camera, I first thought "man, this camera is gigantic! however will i carry it around everywhere and take pictures?!", but I got used to it after awhile. The camera strap really helps with the weight, I'd say it's around 3ish pounds depending on which lens you're using with it. It is pretty bulky though, and if you're going to travel with it it might be kind of annoying to have to lug it around (i know i'm really uncomfortable lugging it around school all the time, but it is so worth it haha..), but the pictures are just way better quality than some of the compact cameras that I've just learned to make the sacrifice

& congrats on the newborn! ♥ ^__^
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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
November 20 2011 23:49 GMT
#21
On November 21 2011 08:42 Voxae wrote:
About the size and weight of the camera, I first thought "man, this camera is gigantic! however will i carry it around everywhere and take pictures?!", but I got used to it after awhile. The camera strap really helps with the weight, I'd say it's around 3ish pounds depending on which lens you're using with it. It is pretty bulky though, and if you're going to travel with it it might be kind of annoying to have to lug it around (i know i'm really uncomfortable lugging it around school all the time, but it is so worth it haha..), but the pictures are just way better quality than some of the compact cameras that I've just learned to make the sacrifice

& congrats on the newborn! ♥ ^__^


have you held the 5d? :p
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
November 21 2011 00:58 GMT
#22
I just got a Nikon D7000 with 55-300mm VR lens for my girlfriend, yes it's pricey but it is unbelievably good. I've played with multiple cameras and stuff before so it is worth it. If you want something cheap, go for a Sony Cybershot or something.
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