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Dispersion
Korea (South)504 Posts
On November 15 2011 13:50 flamewheel wrote: I'd be a fan. I used to watch movies and TV shows with the old CC captioning, even if it was slightly delayed. No hearing problems or whatsoever... I just enjoy reading. I thought I was the only one who did this... | ||
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SpoR
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
On November 15 2011 16:57 SpoR wrote: Didn't a progamer recently get licensed for stenotype machine? Hit him up for korean subs MLG.FireFist gogo! | ||
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caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
On November 15 2011 14:00 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Ok, going to sleep for real. I geuss the only viable way is to use a court room typist or someone else who would be able to type very fast. And we don't know if the streaming platform would be able to handle it at all.. Hm,.. Still something to think about though. I'm sure there are other ways to make it easier for those who are deaf as well? Maybe having a sign language stream? I wonder if that would be a cheaper option then having the words typed. And I doubt it would get many watchers, huh.... I wonder when the first sign language stream will take place. At least I know I've never seen one! Having it live has numerous numerous problems as others have pointed out-- if we wanted it live, it would have to be a pretty problematic captioning-- even the best speech recognition software has a lot of issues, especially in such an acoustically diverse setting like a cast. People have also mentioned game sounds interfering but if it was implemented at say, MLGs side, it could be rigged such that the caster audio goes through a separate channel which gets captioned before it gets remixed with the game sounds, but it would have to be handled on the event side of things. This would help, but again, it would be a problematic captioning, like how sometimes you see news or sports captions in a bar and they mangle the words to all hell. Having it on VODs would be a possibility too-- it would take a pretty significant time investment by some pretty dedicated volunteers though. I've never done captioning, but I have done quite a bit of transcribing for research, and two party conversation takes a very long time to transcribe-- Just getting the words right probably takes 10-30 minutes of work for every minute of audio, though for captions we might not be so concerned about getting it absolutely perfect, so I could see it taking less, (maybe as fast as 5 minutes per minute? not sure). None of these issues make it any less relevant though, I think its an awesome idea. | ||
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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domane
Canada1606 Posts
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13th Marine
United States344 Posts
I would imagine that it might actually be more cost efficient, at least in the short run, to hire a stenographer or two and train them in the appropriate vocabulary until technology progresses enough that costs start to go down and availability goes up. I'd like to have CCs, especially when watching multiple streams at once, e.g., MLG Red and Blue streams. It'd be great having the sound on for one of the games while keeping up to date with the commentary on the other streams via subtitles. | ||
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Corsica
Ukraine1854 Posts
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Corsica
Ukraine1854 Posts
On November 16 2011 08:17 Corsica wrote: I think they should be definitely, it will benefit everyone, but they should be optional of course (turn on turn off button) I personally hate them... but it is our goal to make SCII as accessible as possible. | ||
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CPTBadAss
United States594 Posts
Liquid`Sheth United States. November 15 2011 13:56. Ahh... Well then I geuss the question is just how much is it to have someone do live subtitles in person. Then if its worth the cost. I wonder if its being looked into. I actually have a bit of experience with this. I go to the Rochester Institute of Technology and we have a college called the National Technical Institute for the Deaf. The student population is like....I think 10% deaf? Maybe less. But there are a lot of deaf people in my classes. All of our lectures have sign language translators. What's really important to this thread is that all of the live events on campus (concerts, comedians, guest lectures, in class lectures) have both sign language translators and a c-print typist. These c-print typists will live caption anything. I've seen plenty of comedians have a ton of fun with the typists. Like something foul only to have the typist put up in CC, " I can't translate that". There's usually projectors in the room that will have the video of what's going on PLUS the closed captioning. I'm currently on internship away from RIT but I could look into this if there's really an interest. TL:DR - There's definitely a way to get live closed captioning. I'm just not sure how expensive it would be to hire someone to do it. I don't know anything about VOD closed captioning. | ||
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
Im not sure about it for a SC2 cast though.. If it was there, and they were good quality, I would definitely try it out | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On November 15 2011 13:53 sugatooth wrote: The fact that there are dead SC2 fans should be enough to want to implement subtitles  I expect it will be kind of tough to figure out though, especially on a live stream (I don't really know how it works on TV).HELL YES! | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6593 Posts
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FoeHamr
United States489 Posts
Edit: <3 Sheth | ||
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Noobity
United States871 Posts
Ugh, if I had access to a streaming program I could probably figure out a way to do it. Here's something explaining captioning I found on the googs, http://transendia.com/tag/real-time-captioning/ The text on screen idea is kinda lame, but could probably be turned into an overlay without too much of an issue. EDIT: one way or another you'd need to have a stenographer or someone else who types very quickly to handle it all in real time, and you would not at all be able to get every comment made by the casters in the stream. I'd highly suggest starting with something small, maybe typing out some notes on a stream to get it working, figure out if you'd have a decent amount of people willing to watch that portion of the stream, and then maybe making the splash into that world during a showmatch, or something that you could reasonably generate huge viewership. Hell you might be able to get the captioning sponsored. | ||
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