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_Depression
Profile Joined October 2011
United States251 Posts
November 08 2011 08:10 GMT
#121
On November 08 2011 16:58 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 16:43 ChriS-X wrote:
someone should sue his sorry ass


There really ought to be some legal action. I mean, if esports in general is to become legitimate, this sort of behavior needs to be squashed now and precedents set. Create legal ramifications for those who cut corners and take advantage of both corporate and community members. Make an example of this guy. At least something productive would come out of this with some kind of legal precedent in place for future "Gus"-es who want to make a quick buck at the expense of the hard work and investments of those around them.

IGN, S2, Dox, anyone involved, should pool info and lock it up.


Seeking legal action would take time and money that would, in the long term perhaps, bring Gus to justice, but in the short term nothing can be done. By the time any kind of legal case is presented in court, the actual IPL4 will probably be over. In fact, even if the case went to court tomorrow it wouldn't help. IPL would not be able to rectify all of Gus's wrongdoings without completely restarting this Qualifier tournament, and they can't and won't do that.

The most immediate and impactful thing we can do to stop Gus is to air him out to dry and blacklist him, even if it's only in theory and not really followed through. His name and the AZK team will be marred by this for a long time to come, and I know for sure that IPL will never work with him again (hell, they've probably got their own personal blacklist of shady organizers). I'm sure someone, somewhere will give the guy another chance, but with all of this drama it certainly won't be for a long time.
vertical101
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong311 Posts
November 08 2011 08:13 GMT
#122
i hope that he never organize a tournament again.
MountainGoat
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States507 Posts
November 08 2011 08:15 GMT
#123
From what I've observed Dox seems like a really awesome guy trying really hard to make things work for the SEA scene. I hope it's successful and he can avoid people like Gus in the future.

Keep fighting Dox! We supported you when Major tried to scam you and we support you now too
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
November 08 2011 08:22 GMT
#124
I'm wondering if anyone sould be warning Sickness and Js about what they're getting into.
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
November 08 2011 08:25 GMT
#125
I have a question: What is the likelihood that the winner of this tournament will be paid out?
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
Scereye
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria154 Posts
November 08 2011 08:28 GMT
#126
Keep fighting SEA Community!
We know you are awesome. People like Gus exist everywhere. Its just a shame this was the biggest chance SEA had so far to make an impact... Oh dear

And dox, great writeup and keep doing e-sports - it looks like ur the kind of guy the SEA community needs
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 08 2011 08:29 GMT
#127
so ridiculous and unprofessional....what a travesty it has become. sigh
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
November 08 2011 08:34 GMT
#128
Fucking AZK... they're so full of shit. Can't believe they even did the brackets bullshit.
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
NipponBanzai
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada518 Posts
November 08 2011 08:48 GMT
#129
[image loading]

Lol so the mods in the chat went a little ban crazy.
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
November 08 2011 08:57 GMT
#130
What a farce. Hope the community learns from this and stays the heck away from Gus.

Also, thanks OP for everything.
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
Hellmutt
Profile Joined August 2011
25 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 08:58:56
November 08 2011 08:57 GMT
#131
To be honest I think the wannabe Destiny's quote in the chatbox above pretty much sums up this event and Gus's shit: ftgyuujh

Also, how come 3700 ppl are still watching that bullshit. Give in to your hate fellow eSPORTSfans
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
November 08 2011 09:04 GMT
#132
On November 08 2011 17:10 _Depression wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 16:58 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
On November 08 2011 16:43 ChriS-X wrote:
someone should sue his sorry ass


There really ought to be some legal action. I mean, if esports in general is to become legitimate, this sort of behavior needs to be squashed now and precedents set. Create legal ramifications for those who cut corners and take advantage of both corporate and community members. Make an example of this guy. At least something productive would come out of this with some kind of legal precedent in place for future "Gus"-es who want to make a quick buck at the expense of the hard work and investments of those around them.

IGN, S2, Dox, anyone involved, should pool info and lock it up.


Seeking legal action would take time and money that would, in the long term perhaps, bring Gus to justice, but in the short term nothing can be done. By the time any kind of legal case is presented in court, the actual IPL4 will probably be over. In fact, even if the case went to court tomorrow it wouldn't help. IPL would not be able to rectify all of Gus's wrongdoings without completely restarting this Qualifier tournament, and they can't and won't do that.

The most immediate and impactful thing we can do to stop Gus is to air him out to dry and blacklist him, even if it's only in theory and not really followed through. His name and the AZK team will be marred by this for a long time to come, and I know for sure that IPL will never work with him again (hell, they've probably got their own personal blacklist of shady organizers). I'm sure someone, somewhere will give the guy another chance, but with all of this drama it certainly won't be for a long time.


Suing somebody in your own country is already really long, time consuming and expensive, but suing someone in a foreign country (especially when it's a developing country) for, at most 10 000$ ? Unfortunately it's not going to be worth it, all you can do is boycott and try to prevent this guy from doing anything in e-sport, but he will probably get away with his scam.

I really feel sad concerning this story, a lot a passionate people (organisers, players etc) were affected by that, I hope they won't loose their drive for e-sport.
I also hope that nexsickness will leave team AZK, this team is obviously a scam.. violet made the right move.
chii
Profile Joined November 2011
5 Posts
November 08 2011 09:13 GMT
#133
Just support the tournament. I think it's clear that Gus is at an end and whatever unprofessional ulterior motives or goals that he may have will never happen. Which is a big hooray for everyone.

In the end, people are doing damage control to give the players and viewers a great tournament despite the setbacks. It's all about for the love of the game now.
Aetherial
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia917 Posts
November 08 2011 09:14 GMT
#134
Being an SEA player this situation really makes me angry... we don't get many tournaments like this!
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 09:23:37
November 08 2011 09:18 GMT
#135




Good Guy MoonGlade Declined the Bribe From Gus Props to him!
Never GG MKP | IdrA
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
November 08 2011 09:21 GMT
#136
On November 08 2011 18:18 XRaDiiX wrote:

please keep others' private life out of this.
s3x2-2 xiao3x2+2 bone3+2+2
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 09:27:41
November 08 2011 09:23 GMT
#137
On November 08 2011 18:21 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 18:18 XRaDiiX wrote:

please keep others' private life out of this.


Deleted it.... Just thought it was related .... Sorry

Probably better people didn't know the details i found out..
Never GG MKP | IdrA
w.s
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden850 Posts
November 08 2011 09:38 GMT
#138
Thanks for posting and letting us know about this, never thought someone within the sc2 community could be so corrupt. Ban these people from all future events and communities.
SirElton
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)90 Posts
November 08 2011 09:46 GMT
#139
Thanks for letting us know...Such a shame! But the worst thing is that they even magically changed the brackets in order to give azk players a better chance to win in the tourney. That's just sad an ruining e-Sports.

I really wish we had an international tournament control who is able to ban such "organisers" for a lifetime.
Golden hipster! 골든 hwaiting! '-'
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
November 08 2011 10:20 GMT
#140
On November 08 2011 10:44 babylon wrote:
I kind of feel bad for all the Korean players picked up by AZK now, not gonna lie.

I wonder if those players even know that they are on AZK...
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