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cordlc
Profile Joined November 2010
United States360 Posts
October 30 2011 00:32 GMT
#1061
On October 30 2011 09:17 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 09:13 tylermakesmusic wrote:
On October 30 2011 09:05 DustinQQ wrote:
On October 30 2011 08:49 dyr wrote:
If you are going to be "e famous" you need to have a thick skin. Obviously you [Milkis] doesn't have this and therefor should not be in the lime light. Write your articles, do your twitter translations, but stay off the MLG stage and don't post stupid shit on SCReddit if you don't want to be flamed for it. You are not a good live translator. Is that to be mean? No. It is just a fact. If you never come back I would be just fine with that. Good riddance to you, sir.

people like you are the ones destroying esports. you don't give a shit about anything and just pass it off saying it's not your fault. why dont you just fuck off? we'd be fine if you didn't come back spreading your pessimistic shit.

This just in: People with opinions are destroying e-Sports. More at 11. Back to you Scott.

It has nothing to do with people having opinions. Don't you think "good riddance to you sir" seems like a very rude thing to tell someone who's invested a lot of his own time in providing free content for this community.

Of course it's rude, but he isn't make it easy on us by basically saying, "Fuck you all, I'm leaving." I can't tell if that second line referring to the sphere of "eSports" in quotes is meant to be sarcastic or not, but if it was, it's completely uncalled for.

It was only a few people that actually argued with him on that reddit thread, the majority of the community won't even know he's gone until, I don't know, next MLG?


Anyway, if Milkis reads this, just here to say: I appreciated the translations, and thanks for bringing MKP over. Don't be afraid to come back if you want to contribute later.
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
October 30 2011 00:35 GMT
#1062
On October 30 2011 01:07 Chill wrote:
my only thought reading this was "lol"

dont worry milkis, your daddy loves you. see you tomorrow.


Couldn't agree more. It seems a little counter intuitive to make a thread about your leave. If you hate doing what you do so much then just go?
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
October 30 2011 00:35 GMT
#1063
I like how your trying to play the victim when you (like djwheat said) said fuck you to every other game and it's legends. You wrote it, nobody put the words in your mouth.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 30 2011 00:35 GMT
#1064
On October 30 2011 09:31 ZoW wrote:
So when you act like an asshole and call people out it's perfectly fine, but when they do it to you its not?

He never called anyone out...he just stated his opinion which happens to be an unpopular one...
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 00:41:25
October 30 2011 00:36 GMT
#1065
On October 30 2011 09:23 wats0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 09:17 hifriend wrote:
On October 30 2011 09:13 tylermakesmusic wrote:
On October 30 2011 09:05 DustinQQ wrote:
On October 30 2011 08:49 dyr wrote:
If you are going to be "e famous" you need to have a thick skin. Obviously you [Milkis] doesn't have this and therefor should not be in the lime light. Write your articles, do your twitter translations, but stay off the MLG stage and don't post stupid shit on SCReddit if you don't want to be flamed for it. You are not a good live translator. Is that to be mean? No. It is just a fact. If you never come back I would be just fine with that. Good riddance to you, sir.

people like you are the ones destroying esports. you don't give a shit about anything and just pass it off saying it's not your fault. why dont you just fuck off? we'd be fine if you didn't come back spreading your pessimistic shit.

This just in: People with opinions are destroying e-Sports. More at 11. Back to you Scott.

It has nothing to do with people having opinions. Don't you think "good riddance to you sir" seems like a very rude thing to tell someone who's invested a lot of his own time in providing free content for this community.


What content? He's a jumped up translator. He wasn't crying about the mob when he was leading the pitchforks against Alex Garfield who danced intellectual circles around his biased (borderline racist) opinion of the Puma "scandal" but made the mistake of criticizing Milkis openly which is the easiest way to sabotage even the most salient point and draw the ire of the community.


except that never happened. how alex garfield treated milkis was just plain offensive. they were on a show in the pretence of a friendly chat and yet milkis was treated by shit by 2 people who proclaimed to love the community, and yet it turned into a shit storm because garfield wanted to argue the rights and wrongs in a business sense, when milkis was just there to give a perspective. that whole episode was a peice of trash that i was embarrassed to watch.

milkis's post on reddit was right, broodwar is the only esport. maybe he didnt put it across very well, focusing too much on kespa, even if they are an important part of it. the tv channels, the international companies sponsoring teams in a serious way, the professionalism of the players and the companies. these are the kind of things you need if you want to be taken seriously by people who dont necessarily follow your sport.

DjWheat the fighting games last fucking airbender comes jumping in with an irrational and off the point remark. milkis wasnt shitting on communities, anything can have a community. we are talking about sports, lets stop calling it esports jesus. fighting games im sure have great communities, but 2 events a year that get a few thousand viewers isnt a sport is it? they lack corporate backing, a unified league body (the g7, even the members know its a fucking joke), the proffessionalism from the players in terms of how they act and how they train. the games are imbalanced beyond belief, the list goes on.

then second to this shitstorm rodeo we have zlasher, who has a history of knowing absolutely nothing about anything that he talks about. i dont know how his name ever got well known beyond "oh isnt that slasher? oh no its not" ill remember to ask for my name to be sirscoobs so people listen to my crappy opinions.

so much fucking bandwagon hating going on here. people rally to milkis's defence but then they see djwheat disagrees with him so they get to stab the kid in the back. all he ever did was work his ass off for this community, lending his abilities for free to help get shit done, the moment he has a bit of an emotional response to something and all his 'supporters' suddenly jump down his throat like bugs. fuck this shit, i cant believe one of the nicest guys on teamliquid is getting treated like shit by people who dont even know him.


On October 30 2011 09:35 nGBeast wrote:
I like how your trying to play the victim when you (like djwheat said) said fuck you to every other game and it's legends. You wrote it, nobody put the words in your mouth.


he never wrote fuck you at all in his post, stop spreading lies. i would think you werent being literal but when you make a point of saying "you wrote it" and "nobody put the words in your mouth" i would assume you werent putting words in his mouth
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 30 2011 00:36 GMT
#1066
l0l you derps have been criticizing Milkis? hes such an awesome member of the community. shame on you all.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Phats
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia534 Posts
October 30 2011 00:37 GMT
#1067
Just wanted to say that for every 1 troll that post's something distasteful towards you or your opinions there is 100 lurkers who agree with you or really appreciate your work. It's just that people who troll or are angry tend to post alot more then people who actually support you.

Doing what you do requires a thick skin. Some people have it some people don't. I dunno is there a thick skin training program somewhere? military training maybe lol.

Anyways bye gosu translator

Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
October 30 2011 00:37 GMT
#1068
Sorry that the SCII community doesn't appreciate you but us BW guys still want you D: Also at the risk of getting flamed, the more you guys ostracize him the more you guys are proving him right that SC2 isn't an esport yo.
When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
RaKooNs
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom397 Posts
October 30 2011 00:37 GMT
#1069
On October 30 2011 09:21 travis wrote:
jesus look how many replies this got


Yeah it's pretty retarded when we all know that tomorrow there is going to be another blog from Milkis saying "Im sorry".
If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow - SlayerS_MMA
Pr0spect
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden32 Posts
October 30 2011 00:38 GMT
#1070
I mean on LiveOnThree Milkis stated several times that he didn't really know anything about the western eSport history, and that he more or less only knew about the Korean scene of Brood War, and then to go and make this post on Reddit just blabbering out ignorance and more or less spitting on everyone who've been associated with growing eSports in the west and the other major eSport games like Counter-Strike, Quake etc, and expect to people not to get offended?

He's well deserved of the criticism he's getting.
RaKooNs
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom397 Posts
October 30 2011 00:38 GMT
#1071
On October 30 2011 09:37 Taku wrote:
Sorry that the SCII community doesn't appreciate you but us BW guys still want you D: Also at the risk of getting flamed, the more you guys ostracize him the more you guys are proving him right that SC2 isn't an esport yo.


Sorry, you represent the BW community, how?
If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow - SlayerS_MMA
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
October 30 2011 00:39 GMT
#1072
On October 30 2011 09:38 RaKooNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 09:37 Taku wrote:
Sorry that the SCII community doesn't appreciate you but us BW guys still want you D: Also at the risk of getting flamed, the more you guys ostracize him the more you guys are proving him right that SC2 isn't an esport yo.


Sorry, you represent the BW community, how?

Putting words in my mouth aren't we? Point out where in my post I said I represent the BW community please?
When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
iamcaustic
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1509 Posts
October 30 2011 00:40 GMT
#1073
What I don't get is why Milkis even wrote/posted his controversial shitting-on-everything-esports-except-korean-BW article in the first place. o_o I almost have to wonder if he was looking for an excuse to leave the e-sports scene.

If he wants to do something else with his life, that's perfectly fine. It's his life to live and I wish him the best. I just don't understand why he thought it would be a good idea to essentially insult the entirety of the international e-sports industry and all the hard work that's been put into it. This isn't the first time he's done something to make me tilt my head sideways, either.
Twitter: @iamcaustic
HTE
Profile Joined October 2011
16 Posts
October 30 2011 00:40 GMT
#1074
On October 30 2011 01:00 Milkis wrote:
All I wanted to do was bring you guys good content, and I always just wanted the means to do so. I wanted to do a lot of nice things for the community because I was capable of doing it and seeing you guys appreciate the content was always good enough. Why else would I take on any of these extra works, or brainstorm a ton of new things I could do for the community? Sadly, none of these will come to fruition anymore but I guess it doesn't even matter.


Why even mention these things at all? It's pretty obvious that you're upset, but more-so that you're extremely passive-aggressive and have some growing up to do.

Best wishes in other endeavors.
freakeh
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom314 Posts
October 30 2011 00:43 GMT
#1075
Hmm, you seemed to be alright, I did appreciate the Korean Twitter translates...

Thought the amount of money that was donated for the MKP Orlando thing to be pretty ridiculous and you seem to have just cried your self to sleep one night about how mean some people are. Comments like:
"I guess it's good riddance for all of you. "

makes you sound like a complete dick. If that is how quickly you decide to turn your back on this E-Sport (after reddit comments), then good riddance.
coddan
Profile Joined May 2010
Estonia890 Posts
October 30 2011 00:43 GMT
#1076
On October 30 2011 09:37 Taku wrote:
Sorry that the SCII community doesn't appreciate you but us BW guys still want you D: Also at the risk of getting flamed, the more you guys ostracize him the more you guys are proving him right that SC2 isn't an esport yo.

Yes. People get mad that some famous ignorant guy says Brood War is the only esport is proof he's right. Congratulations on your flawless logic.
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
October 30 2011 00:44 GMT
#1077
On October 30 2011 09:39 Taku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 09:38 RaKooNs wrote:
On October 30 2011 09:37 Taku wrote:
Sorry that the SCII community doesn't appreciate you but us BW guys still want you D: Also at the risk of getting flamed, the more you guys ostracize him the more you guys are proving him right that SC2 isn't an esport yo.


Sorry, you represent the BW community, how?

Putting words in my mouth aren't we? Point out where in my post I said I represent the BW community please?


Us Bw guys lol.
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 00:49:49
October 30 2011 00:48 GMT
#1078
On October 30 2011 09:43 coddan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 09:37 Taku wrote:
Sorry that the SCII community doesn't appreciate you but us BW guys still want you D: Also at the risk of getting flamed, the more you guys ostracize him the more you guys are proving him right that SC2 isn't an esport yo.

Yes. People get mad that some famous ignorant guy says Brood War is the only esport is proof he's right. Congratulations on your flawless logic.

It's more the lack of professionalism, especially from some prominent community members. Take a look at actual sports, if a person on a panel or something says something really controversial of course the average person is probably going to flame/cuss him out but people in other shows/panels who work in the field don't air their opinions in public like that. The fact that other people who represent the community are taking it completely personally. I just think it reflects bad on the starcraft community as a whole when they display such a lack of professionalism. Also I wonder how badly Korea is lulzing at how melodramatic the foreign scene is.
Edit: Also 'us bw guys' != 'I represent the bw community' I'd think...
When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
October 30 2011 00:48 GMT
#1079
Basically, people are scared to form their own opinions and meekly follow figures like Wheat. Half of the comments between here and Reddit are just a rehash.
KTY
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
October 30 2011 00:49 GMT
#1080
On October 30 2011 09:35 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 09:31 ZoW wrote:
So when you act like an asshole and call people out it's perfectly fine, but when they do it to you its not?

He never called anyone out...he just stated his opinion which happens to be an unpopular one...


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