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dyr
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada11 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 23:50:26
October 29 2011 23:49 GMT
#1021
If you are going to be "e famous" you need to have a thick skin. Obviously you [Milkis] doesn't have this and therefor should not be in the lime light. Write your articles, do your twitter translations, but stay off the MLG stage and don't post stupid shit on SCReddit if you don't want to be flamed for it. You are not a good live translator. Is that to be mean? No. It is just a fact. If you never come back I would be just fine with that. Good riddance to you, sir.
Play like a champion, no excuses.
zOula...
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States898 Posts
October 29 2011 23:51 GMT
#1022
I have to agree, this is really weak Milkis. Seems as though you're giving up very easily...Comes off as super whiny....I mean, afterall, it's the internet. But it's really a shame because you did great work for the community. Oh well, community members come and go. best of luck in the future
Zhang
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States129 Posts
October 29 2011 23:51 GMT
#1023
WTF I'm pretty sure like 95% of the sc2 community fucking adored you. I have no clue where all of these alleged "haters" came from.

Unless all this drama was caused just by that sc reddit post, which in that case is really sad.
Flipside
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States141 Posts
October 29 2011 23:51 GMT
#1024
Gotta learn not to take such a big emotional hit from the trolls. You are amazing at all the things you do. The only people giving you hate are the jealous trolls. Please don't quit all the non-trolls love you. You're a gem in the community and we need a lot more of people with your attitude and drive in this community. <3 from a caring fan.
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
October 29 2011 23:51 GMT
#1025
On October 30 2011 08:51 Zhang wrote:
WTF I'm pretty sure like 95% of the sc2 community fucking adored you. I have no clue where all of these alleged "haters" came from.

Unless all this drama was caused just by that sc reddit post, which in that case is really sad.

Think it's a combination of that post and this martyr post.
blacklist_member
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia318 Posts
October 29 2011 23:56 GMT
#1026
Big fan of all the work he does, but that reddit post was just ...dont wanna get banned so lets just say "bad"
MC and MKP fighting ^^
adeptz
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia220 Posts
October 29 2011 23:56 GMT
#1027
Maybe time off would be good for you to regain some perspective, or to "get away from it all".

Ok, that was just a nicer way of telling you to grow up, really.

If this is too much to handle, i can't imagine what would happen when you get a real job and move on to the next quarter of your life....

hewley
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1063 Posts
October 29 2011 23:56 GMT
#1028
Well, life won't get easier with that attitude. I still wish you the best in the future, you'll need it.
Esports bubble pop, bubble pop
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 00:07:09
October 29 2011 23:58 GMT
#1029
On October 30 2011 05:42 kellymilkies wrote:
It's tough isn't it.


i think you know you're being a little bit of a drama queen when you get told by kellymilkies. people are dicks on the internet, you really shouldn't be surprised.

edit: but you also kind of deserve the crap you got for your retarded reddit post.
ImHuko
Profile Joined December 2010
United States996 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 00:05:44
October 29 2011 23:59 GMT
#1030
I think it is more of a combination of behind the scenes bullshit (death threats and shit) and the deterioration of the SC2 community. SC:BW community was pretty tight knit and everyone was respectful, now with the new flood of kids, you get death threats if you translate something wrong. /r/Starcraft is just a prime example of what the community has turned into. Something as simple as someones opinion can get turned into complete chaos. Majority of the people doing nothing but bashing Milkis does nothign for the community, so what do they have to lose? If you spend your own time for no pay helping the community that does nothing but bash you, what the fuck is the motivation? This isn't really "get thicker skin", why the fuck would you devote so much of your time in helping a community that gives you grief?

I am sure he has been dealing with this for awhile and then when someone highly respected like djWheat overreacts and creates mainstream hate for you, I doubt you can find anything enjoyable out of it.

If you are willing to devote all your free time into something that doesn't respect you back, something is wrong with you. Last week Reddit was I LOVE MILKIS, lets post all of his twitter messages and give him love. This week djWheat has made the entire community hate him. Compared to SC:BW community Milkis enjoyed, this community is utter shit. Once you're hated, there is no coming back.
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 00:00:53
October 30 2011 00:00 GMT
#1031
wtf? who was hating? cmon man, you know hater minority always expresses themselves more than the majority does. dont let the words of a few fucking idiots effect you. you've done a great service for the community and we greatly appreciate you for it. however, this is your decision to make and i wish you best of luck with whatever endeavors you pursue in the future. cheers.
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
Spessi
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
304 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 00:02:05
October 30 2011 00:00 GMT
#1032
I'm going to try not to post anything that displays any sort of judgement about you or what i may or may not think about you or anything relating to the drama you've created, and just say this, as best and simply as I can.

To expect that you can be a semi-public figure and post anything remotely controversial and not have backlash is just extremely naive to the point of almost being willfully stupid. You can't be involved in the community in any form and hold on to the idea that anything you say, especially if it's something potentially inflammatory or opinionated, is just going to be kindly accepted with praise and happy conversation and lacking in criticism. It's delusional. You either have to think (not YOU, but as a person) that you walk on water, or in general have a complete, head in the sand, rejection of the entire reality that is reddit and any other internet community.

I'm not shitting on Reddit. I'm not shitting on TL. I'm not shitting on esports in general. But it's a mixed community and everyone knows it.

Regardless of the reason for doing so, you should have known beforehand that you would get reactions.

And regardless of even that you should have known whether or not you had a thick enough skin to handle those reactions...or you just shouldn't have posted anything.

Maybe it means that means you need to think about what you say if you can't take negativity. And maybe that means that you just can't be a public figure in the community for risk of getting anger from people. And that's fine. That's totally, completely fine. There's nothing wrong with you as a person for not having the skin to get shit on.

personally this thing and you right now and the post you made remind me of stupid drama from high school, between the martyring and woe-is-me and all the bullshit spewing from every orifice, but whatever.

I'm sure you'll have some things to think about when you realize what you're doing. Either way best of luck to you in whatever you do, and I'm sure you'll be around.
"Um. Everyone, I love you!" - Boxer, IPL 3, Oct 8, 2011
wats0n
Profile Joined July 2011
United States509 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 00:02:08
October 30 2011 00:01 GMT
#1033
Your translation of SC2 progamer tweets has had some interesting consequences.

I've been too lazy to do it but I wanted to find where you translated something from MVP talking about 1/1/1 and how it should be illegal. I wanted to search for instances of the phase "1/1/1" (or other variations) on TL before your tweet and then instances after to show the snowball effect of rumors and mob mentality.

Specifically regarding 1/1/1 that build has been around since the beta. Tasteless has been joking about it on GOM since the beta and calls it the "Tasteless build." It was nothing new but it was interesting to see the furor that developed post tweet. Alas I never looked into it to confirm.

Was also interesting how your "work" regarding IdrA has seeped into the scene. You're the source of the "kimchi" popularization and you relate slanted stories to LXP gamers coming for MLG and competing against IdrA. It's interesting just how much sabotage you seem capable of, but again I didn't flesh this out.

Anyway, your bias was evident early on and you skated by because mob mentality has the IQ of a neanderthal. Individuals with a brain can see how wrong you were on the EG Puma situation. It's incredibly offensive the stance you took for a simple player transaction involving a western team yet you never uttered a word before that when TSL's Coach Lee pilfered his entire team from fOu and oGs. Or after the EG "scandal" when Slayers raided ZeNex.

It's actually a good thing that you are stepping down because your twitter has way too much negative influence and you wielded power unjustly. I'm just ecstatic and amazed that you would hoist yourself on your own pitard and remove yourself because I thought you would be a cancerous existence that I would have to stomach with no end in sight.
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
October 30 2011 00:04 GMT
#1034
On October 30 2011 01:00 Milkis wrote:
[...] I never wanted to be popular nor did I want attention (although I guess I did enjoy it, but it's not something I ever wanted). It's the last thing I wanted. [...]


Yeah sure, that's why you make an extremely provocative elitist statement that basically offends thousands of eSport fans who love SC2, DotA, CS, Quake etc on reddit and then you post a whiny good-bye blog here because people on the internet disagree with you and are mean.
You totally don't want any attention!
And you totally don't want people to praise your work and beg you to come back in this thread either!

You got some serious issues and I hope you won't return to the scene before resolved them.
Or better, don't return at all cause I don't want to see someone writing a ridiculous good-bye blog like this and then return.
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
Throllax
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia19 Posts
October 30 2011 00:05 GMT
#1035
You brought this on yourself I'm afraid mate. Maybe next time, before you take a dump on everyone else, check to see whether you're prepared for the responses you will get. I don't know how you thought that they could be any different to what they were.
DustinQQ
Profile Joined December 2010
United States69 Posts
October 30 2011 00:05 GMT
#1036
On October 30 2011 08:49 dyr wrote:
If you are going to be "e famous" you need to have a thick skin. Obviously you [Milkis] doesn't have this and therefor should not be in the lime light. Write your articles, do your twitter translations, but stay off the MLG stage and don't post stupid shit on SCReddit if you don't want to be flamed for it. You are not a good live translator. Is that to be mean? No. It is just a fact. If you never come back I would be just fine with that. Good riddance to you, sir.

people like you are the ones destroying esports. you don't give a shit about anything and just pass it off saying it's not your fault. why dont you just fuck off? we'd be fine if you didn't come back spreading your pessimistic shit.
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
October 30 2011 00:06 GMT
#1037
Milkis, you realize most of your work and opinions are being posted on the internet. That's how we can all read what you type. I'd think you'd notice all your words were being uploaded to the internet.

Am I right? If I am, how the fuck can you not expect people to talk shit? Jesus, man, grow some skin.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
greatZERG
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia755 Posts
October 30 2011 00:10 GMT
#1038
This is what happens when you have to deal with a fucking cesspool like /r/starcraft full of some of the most vicious, socially inept nerds on the internet. Only a few days ago some guy who was offering low-level coaching ended up having his work email hacked by /r/starcraft pitchfork psychos.

Milkis did a good job and tried his best, nobody could ask any more of him. He gave up his time and effort to contribute to esports and people shat on him because they are ungrateful children.

You're awesome Milkis, thanks for your efforts mate
stu >)
tylermakesmusic
Profile Joined April 2011
United States122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 00:14:00
October 30 2011 00:13 GMT
#1039
On October 30 2011 09:05 DustinQQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 08:49 dyr wrote:
If you are going to be "e famous" you need to have a thick skin. Obviously you [Milkis] doesn't have this and therefor should not be in the lime light. Write your articles, do your twitter translations, but stay off the MLG stage and don't post stupid shit on SCReddit if you don't want to be flamed for it. You are not a good live translator. Is that to be mean? No. It is just a fact. If you never come back I would be just fine with that. Good riddance to you, sir.

people like you are the ones destroying esports. you don't give a shit about anything and just pass it off saying it's not your fault. why dont you just fuck off? we'd be fine if you didn't come back spreading your pessimistic shit.

This just in: People with opinions are destroying e-Sports. More at 11. Back to you Scott.
omnia vincit amor: et nos cedamus amori.
wats0n
Profile Joined July 2011
United States509 Posts
October 30 2011 00:15 GMT
#1040
On October 30 2011 09:10 greatZERG wrote:
This is what happens when you have to deal with a fucking cesspool like /r/starcraft full of some of the most vicious, socially inept nerds on the internet. Only a few days ago some guy who was offering low-level coaching ended up having his work email hacked by /r/starcraft pitchfork psychos.

Milkis did a good job and tried his best, nobody could ask any more of him. He gave up his time and effort to contribute to esports and people shat on him because they are ungrateful children.

You're awesome Milkis, thanks for your efforts mate


Nobody shat on him, let's get that straight.

He put himself out there and started a discussion where he belittled other games. The method where both sides try to disprove the other and offer their evidence has been around for some 4,000 years since the time of Socrates and it's not "shitting on somebody."

He made some ignorant comments and when people argued against him he stuck his tail between his legs and ran. Maybe you would have a case if somebody else started the thread that led to his downfall but he was the author himself.
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