• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:58
CET 13:58
KST 21:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT21Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book16Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0225LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker16
StarCraft 2
General
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast
Tourneys
Smart Academic Support for Better Writing PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02 Ladder maps - how we can make blizz update them? Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War Gypsy to Korea TvZ is the most complete match up
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Path of Exile Diablo 2 thread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2303 users

Imbalanced?

Blogs > Steelflight-Rx
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
Steelflight-Rx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 00:54:51
September 28 2011 00:51 GMT
#1
So with heart of the swarm in the works, it's blizzards chance to fix up the game.


That said, it seems likely that some units from wings of liberty are going to be removed, or else the multiplayer experience will be saturated with too many units.


Now obviously the choice of units to remove will kind of depend on what new units they are adding, but ignoring that for now, which units would you remove? Which units add the least to gameplay, etc.

terran
+ Show Spoiler +

Poll: Terran unit to remove?

Marauder (40)
 
63%

Marine (5)
 
8%

Reaper (5)
 
8%

Thor (4)
 
6%

Battlecruiser (2)
 
3%

Raven (2)
 
3%

Ghost (1)
 
2%

Hellion (1)
 
2%

Seige Tank (1)
 
2%

Medivac (1)
 
2%

Banshee (1)
 
2%

Viking (0)
 
0%

63 total votes

Your vote: Terran unit to remove?

(Vote): Marine
(Vote): Marauder
(Vote): Reaper
(Vote): Ghost
(Vote): Hellion
(Vote): Seige Tank
(Vote): Thor
(Vote): Viking
(Vote): Medivac
(Vote): Banshee
(Vote): Battlecruiser
(Vote): Raven





protoss
+ Show Spoiler +

Poll: Protoss unit to remove?

Colossus (32)
 
49%

Mothership (19)
 
29%

Carrier (10)
 
15%

Zealot (1)
 
2%

Stalker (1)
 
2%

Immortal (1)
 
2%

Void Ray (1)
 
2%

Sentry (0)
 
0%

High Templar (0)
 
0%

Dark Templar (0)
 
0%

Archon (0)
 
0%

Phoenix (0)
 
0%

65 total votes

Your vote: Protoss unit to remove?

(Vote): Zealot
(Vote): Stalker
(Vote): Sentry
(Vote): High Templar
(Vote): Dark Templar
(Vote): Immortal
(Vote): Colossus
(Vote): Archon
(Vote): Phoenix
(Vote): Void Ray
(Vote): Carrier
(Vote): Mothership





zerg
+ Show Spoiler +

Poll: Zerg unit to remove?

Curruptor (32)
 
44%

(15)
 
21%

Roach (11)
 
15%

Hydralisk (4)
 
6%

Infestor (3)
 
4%

Zergling (2)
 
3%

Baneling (2)
 
3%

Ultralisk (1)
 
1%

Broodling (1)
 
1%

Mutalisk (1)
 
1%

Queen (0)
 
0%

Overseer (0)
 
0%

72 total votes

Your vote: Zerg unit to remove?

(Vote): Queen
(Vote): Zergling
(Vote): Baneling
(Vote): Roach
(Vote): Hydralisk
(Vote): Infestor
(Vote): Ultralisk
(Vote): Broodling
(Vote): Overseer
(Vote): Mutalisk
(Vote): Curruptor
(Vote):




*
yubee wrote: you know? it's a great night you should all smile no matter what harddships, because grass grows and the sky is blue and it's a good life.
Steelflight-Rx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1389 Posts
September 28 2011 00:55 GMT
#2
For protoss, i'd definitely pick hte colossus, it doesn't make for interesting game play, it just makes for a boring protoss deathball that just 1a's across the map
yubee wrote: you know? it's a great night you should all smile no matter what harddships, because grass grows and the sky is blue and it's a good life.
Vlare
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
748 Posts
September 28 2011 01:10 GMT
#3
Do you want me to vote realistically, or what I would like ?
Mass zerglings doesnt fail
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
September 28 2011 01:11 GMT
#4
gotta take out thors. they dont really have any place in the game, they get countered by mutas and most other ground units. and their ability is useless as well.
Steelflight-Rx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1389 Posts
September 28 2011 01:13 GMT
#5
On September 28 2011 10:10 Vlare wrote:
Do you want me to vote realistically, or what I would like ?

vote on the units you really hate/don't want to see in HOTS
yubee wrote: you know? it's a great night you should all smile no matter what harddships, because grass grows and the sky is blue and it's a good life.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 28 2011 01:16 GMT
#6
It's corrupter and I'd remove that or roaches.

Marauders for Terran obviously and Colo for Protoss.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
harhar!
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany190 Posts
September 28 2011 01:21 GMT
#7
why do you guys hate marauder? lol. i dont see what t would do endgame vs p w/o marauder. and dont tell me mech, tanks just suck in general bs lategame toss and thors just get feedbacked.

i wish that mutalisks and colossus go out just because i hate them. the mutalisk more than the coloss but it will of course not happen so whatever.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
September 28 2011 01:22 GMT
#8
I'm not a big fan of the marauder...but not much to say about that.
I hate hate hate the hydralisk - it's too similar to the roach, not a strong unit, not a unique unit, nothing good about it. Just boring with its role already taken by the roach.

I hate the colossus as compared to what it could be used for - the reaver was a much more dynamic, interesting unit. it's simply just a boring, poorly designed unit.

That being said, i hate the immortal as well - but i'd rather see the colossus removed.
ヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノDELETE ICEFROGヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
September 28 2011 01:34 GMT
#9
I'd be fine having the colossus removed and either having stronger storms (slightly!) or a better unit for AoE but not having 9 grids of range.
kiss kiss fall in love
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
September 28 2011 01:38 GMT
#10
On September 28 2011 10:21 harhar! wrote:
why do you guys hate marauder? lol. i dont see what t would do endgame vs p w/o marauder. and dont tell me mech, tanks just suck in general bs lategame toss and thors just get feedbacked.

i wish that mutalisks and colossus go out just because i hate them. the mutalisk more than the coloss but it will of course not happen so whatever.

Obviously they would not just remove the unit....... It is easily the most boring unit though, followed very closely by the mothership/colossus/corrupter....
~~~Liquid Fighting (SC2)~~~
redoxx
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States333 Posts
September 28 2011 01:43 GMT
#11
The marauder is the most boring unit, but it's so important to Terran play that Blizzard wouldn't take it away in an expansion pack. It would change the way the race is played way too much and would hurt Terrans in tournaments a lot for at least a few months.

I think the colossus should be changed a little, but it's a fun unit and I like it. I think the carrier should be put out of its misery though and replaced with something else that's actually a cool unit to use in a competitive game.

Blizzard can't take away the corrupter because it's necessary for the broodlord, but they should give it something more interesting to do than corruption. I quite like zerg units the way they are.
The horror...the horror
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 01:47:02
September 28 2011 01:46 GMT
#12
I'd take my reavers back over collosi any day of the week >.> lol

Edit: With Much Scarabs and all!
LiquidDota Staff
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
September 28 2011 01:59 GMT
#13
Don't necessarily have a fondness for the ole golden slug but the way that air control removed the mobility of the reaver rather than shutting down the other uses of the reaver was way more interesting than the way the collossus works currently where it basically just dies if you have enough, air control or doesn't die and rolls stuff over.
Temporarykid
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada362 Posts
September 28 2011 02:02 GMT
#14
If I recall correctly... did blizzard remove any units from starcraft when they released broodwar? Didn't they only add expansion units?

But like everyone else, I voted accordingly.
ㅈㅈ
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
September 28 2011 02:05 GMT
#15
On September 28 2011 11:02 Temporarykid wrote:
If I recall correctly... did blizzard remove any units from starcraft when they released broodwar? Didn't they only add expansion units?

But like everyone else, I voted accordingly.


Nope they added units and upgrades. I think thee only war they will realistically remove units is if they are crappy as hell like corruptors.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 02:08:56
September 28 2011 02:08 GMT
#16
carrier is beating mothership in a to remove poll what?!
(edit clarification - wtf mothership has less votes :/)
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Brad`
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 02:10:56
September 28 2011 02:10 GMT
#17
Remove smart casting and buff casters would make the game far more interesting. There are far too many crappy units in sc2 to bother removing any.
ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
September 28 2011 02:13 GMT
#18
On September 28 2011 11:02 Temporarykid wrote:
If I recall correctly... did blizzard remove any units from starcraft when they released broodwar? Didn't they only add expansion units?

But like everyone else, I voted accordingly.

You are correct. But Blizzard did specifically say that they were considering removing certain uninteresting units in HotS. I don't have the exact source, but they said it a few months back.
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
September 28 2011 02:16 GMT
#19
My 2 cents,

Marauder, Roach, Immortal are "bridging" units IMO. They serve to help to race as you tech to the next tier such as:

Marauders as a buffer until tanks
Roach to bridge you from hatchery to lair tech
Immortal to help you to colossus.

The reasoning is from putting myself into SC1 shoes, think of it, a terran only has marines until he gets his factory up for tanks. Hydra's weren't "heavy" soldiers for zerg and if you wanted heavy units, it was ultras. Protoss I'm not too sure because goons were very all purpose unlike the stalker counterpart.

Due to these new "bridging" units, the dynamics of SC2 has changed where before in SC1 you would see fast expansions 90+% of the games because tier 1 units just weren't effective and players tend to skip straight to tier 2/3 (hence needs extra income to support the tier). In SC2, there are these 3 units to either put early pressure or help defend your base better.
sup
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 28 2011 02:22 GMT
#20
Make the infestor tier 3 and I'll be happy.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
12:00
King of the Hill #238
Liquipedia
WardiTV Winter Champion…
12:00
Group B
WardiTV395
IndyStarCraft 222
Liquipedia
KCM Race Survival
10:00
Regular season
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 1207
LiquipediaDiscussion
PiG Sty Festival
09:00
Group A
Maru vs Bunny
Classic vs SHIN
PiGStarcraft1012
TKL 286
Rex224
IntoTheiNu 27
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft1012
TKL 286
Rex 224
IndyStarCraft 222
ProTech123
Reynor 64
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 37253
Horang2 8668
Hyuk 2731
GuemChi 1955
Sea 1236
Bisu 1046
Jaedong 908
Flash 751
BeSt 447
Snow 363
[ Show more ]
Stork 354
EffOrt 298
firebathero 275
Mini 229
ZerO 213
Light 201
Shuttle 196
Hyun 182
Last 181
Larva 171
ggaemo 146
hero 138
Soma 100
Pusan 82
Soulkey 77
Mong 74
Rush 55
Barracks 51
Mind 41
Hm[arnc] 34
sSak 33
JulyZerg 31
JYJ 31
Free 26
ToSsGirL 26
NaDa 24
Yoon 23
scan(afreeca) 20
sorry 19
ZergMaN 18
Terrorterran 17
910 16
Movie 16
Bale 16
GoRush 13
Dota 2
Gorgc3792
Dendi471
XcaliburYe64
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1731
x6flipin392
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor144
Other Games
singsing2548
Liquid`RaSZi1027
B2W.Neo626
crisheroes259
Lowko249
XaKoH 190
Mew2King87
QueenE86
Hui .70
Trikslyr33
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 1017
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• 3DClanTV 42
• iHatsuTV 13
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2142
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
11h 2m
PiG Sty Festival
20h 2m
Clem vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Escore
21h 2m
Epic.LAN
23h 2m
Replay Cast
1d 11h
PiG Sty Festival
1d 20h
herO vs NightMare
Reynor vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
1d 21h
Epic.LAN
1d 23h
Replay Cast
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Serral vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
4 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-18
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026: China & Korea Invitational
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.