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Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1613 Posts
September 29 2011 06:55 GMT
#181
On September 28 2011 17:21 infinity2k9 wrote:
Artosis saying he wishes everyone would switch to SC2, haha.

Of course, because he is SC2 commentator.
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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
September 29 2011 09:23 GMT
#182
On September 29 2011 15:55 Jenia6109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 17:21 infinity2k9 wrote:
Artosis saying he wishes everyone would switch to SC2, haha.

Of course, because he is SC2 commentator.

Elephant in the room duhh..!
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
October 03 2011 06:37 GMT
#183
On September 26 2011 23:38 MattyClutch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2011 05:31 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On September 24 2011 04:27 MattyClutch wrote:
On September 24 2011 03:21 ShadeR wrote:
On September 24 2011 02:47 konadora wrote:
I gotta agree with ShadowWolf, some SC2 matches (i'm not really a huge fan, but I do watch from time to time) that I watched have been quite impressive. I think it was MMA or some terran that consistently dropped a zerg all over the map to eventually win that game a couple of months ago. It was kinda exciting (by SC2 standards). But of course, there was the usual lack of main-army micro and a more spread-out longer-lasting battle. But as mentioned some posts back, this is impossible because of how the units are made. And also because smart-cast makes spellcasting so NON-epic.

Jangbi's storms against Nada will forever be the best storms cast in SC/SC2 history.

See thats the point Kona BW fans shouldn't have to lower the bar to 'enjoy' SC2 =S



One game has had years of play development and an expansion and the other has not. It is sort of a given. They don't really have a choice in the matter. 1999 StarCraft wouldn't compare well to current BW either.

We should seriously compile of list of everyone who ever made this ridiculous argument and ignore all of their opinions in any thread that relates to both games. That along with this argument
On September 24 2011 04:27 MattyClutch wrote:
You have no idea what is going to come with HOTS and LOTV. Saying you know it won't change anything is silly.

It's irrelevant what will come in the future, what matters is that currently, sc2 is garbage compared to BW. In all aspects. Except for maybe noob friendliness. Just because it might end up as the greatest game of all time 5 years down the road does not change the fact that it's not as good now. Just think about how ridiculous that is. What if a new vehicle (say, a hover craft) came out but wasn't as good as the car.

"Oh, no. Keep using the hovercraft despite it being more expensive and inferior in all aspects. You have no idea, it'll be just as good as the car in like 5 years!"
"But.. it's clearly worse right now. I don't see why you're trying to push it so hard."
"No, dude. You're so biased. Like, compare the hovercraft to the car when it first came out. The hovercraft is so much better at release, and it can only get better in the future. The car had over a hundred years to develop, you can't expect the hovercraft to compare right now. You're just blinded by nostalgia. Stop living in the past. The car is dead, the hovercraft will replace it."
"Whatever, I'm using my car. Tell me when the hovercraft becomes somewhat comparable, then I'll look into getting one"


As I said earlier in the tread different people enjoy different things. I find SC2 much more enjoyable to watch than SC1, that in itself refutes your point. You and I simply like different things. Also you didn't in any way address my argument. You just dismissed it.

I saw what was there and while I recognized the skill involved it just wasn't for me. SC2 is different for me. I really enjoy watching it, though I do see the obvious skill gap. I do think that will improve with time. People haven't tried everything yet - that will take time. My mistake on hoping future changes and play development would help you enjoy SC2 as well.


You're right, the major point of my argument relies on the fact that you agree BW is a "better" game. That goes into a really long argument on what makes a game better so we won't go there. People like different things, I can respect that.

One thing you should keep in mind though, is that the "elitist BW" players are the ones who wanted more than anyone else that sc2 would be amazing. During beta, I literally played sc2 all day, everyday, the whole summer. We're only so bitter because, in our eyes, it did not meet the expectations. And we'd be ok with that too, except that sc2/Blizzard is clearly trying to bully out BW. Just look at Artosis wishing everyone would switch to sc2.

You shouldn't be so scornful of us "elitists". You should pity us. We were promised a new dawn of starcraft and instead, our favorite players are losing their jobs, our favorite tournaments are losing their sponsors, and our favorite game is trying to be erased and replaced. We mostly just want to be left alone :/ TL was our home and now... well, it's hard to be left alone when the people trying to replace you are living with you.
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ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
October 11 2011 19:39 GMT
#184
On September 28 2011 17:21 infinity2k9 wrote:
Artosis saying he wishes everyone would switch to SC2, haha. It's not even complete and far inferior to watch compared to now or 10 years ago, but let's all switch cause Artosis can make a living from casting now.



I think Artosis' statement was far deeper than that. In SOTG he said players in Broodwar are "so good" and "Starcraft 2 players suck" when he was commentating on the OSL finals. He definitely wants to see how higher ranked A-teamers can solve the game given that MVP has made SC2 Terran very professional and mechanical compared to how everyone cheesed with it.
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