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TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 17:27:01
September 16 2011 22:18 GMT
#1
EDIT:

**
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Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
September 16 2011 22:21 GMT
#2
her forgetting you (or not wanting to see you, which ever it truly was) isn't her fault, it's yours. Therefore, it's your problem not hers. She got pissed because you pushed it onto her, and now she's probably even more sick of you than she was in the beginning. Asking a girl out isn't asking for handouts, it's having her like you just as much as you like her.
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
September 16 2011 22:23 GMT
#3
I know all that, but I keep pushing away that fact in the heat of moment. If you read closer, I know it is my problem, and I want to fix it, hence the blogpost.
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jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
September 16 2011 22:24 GMT
#4
You are doing this because you are insecure and fearful of abandonment, perhaps stemming from a childhood neurosis.

The solution is either constant conscious effort to prevent harmful behavior, or perhaps finding a partner who is just as clingy as you, and hope that you two don't eventually kill each other from mutually overreacting in an argument.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Masamune
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada3401 Posts
September 16 2011 22:30 GMT
#5
Who knew that the 16 year old girl dating the 20 year old guy wouldn't be the clingy one in the relationship?

Stop being so clingy.
munchmunch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada789 Posts
September 16 2011 22:31 GMT
#6
There's nothing wrong with you. It's natural to be insecure in a relationship, especially when you are not getting the face-time that you need. From the sounds of it, it's not her fault either. Human relationships don't magically work, you need to make them work. I suggest:

(a) Make plans that sound fun, not a last resort. Don't say, let's hangout, say, let's watch a movie, or go someplace, etc.

(b) Give her some slack for being 15; she's really young and should be allowed to make a lot of mistakes.

(c) Give yourself some slack for being 20; you might not realize it, but you're still really young. You probably have a lot of stuff to learn, and lots of chances at romance ahead of you. The odds are that this relationship won't last your whole life, and that's a good thing. Enjoy what you have, and try to be less insecure. Don't worry about not being perfect.
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
September 16 2011 22:36 GMT
#7
On September 17 2011 07:31 munchmunch wrote:
There's nothing wrong with you. It's natural to be insecure in a relationship, especially when you are not getting the face-time that you need. From the sounds of it, it's not her fault either. Human relationships don't magically work, you need to make them work. I suggest:

(a) Make plans that sound fun, not a last resort. Don't say, let's hangout, say, let's watch a movie, or go someplace, etc.

(b) Give her some slack for being 15; she's really young and should be allowed to make a lot of mistakes.

(c) Give yourself some slack for being 20; you might not realize it, but you're still really young. You probably have a lot of stuff to learn, and lots of chances at romance ahead of you. The odds are that this relationship won't last your whole life, and that's a good thing. Enjoy what you have, and try to be less insecure. Don't worry about not being perfect.



thank you
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GigaFlop
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1146 Posts
September 16 2011 22:53 GMT
#8
15-year-old girls aren't the most mentally stable...
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ "Shift-Q oftentimes makes a capital Q" - Day[9] || iNcontrol - Alligator from heaven = ^
Maand
Profile Joined April 2010
326 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 23:00:16
September 16 2011 22:56 GMT
#9
Be honest with yourself and her. Most importantly about emotions, how you react to her. Just be informative.

Talk things over. Know what's on her side and make sure she knows what's on yours.

Probably two most important things I've learned past fire years from two failed(sort of) relationships.

And what munchmunch said in c) !

Edit: You probably know that but I'm gonna write it anyway. Conflicts in relationships are not a bad thing. It means your relationship is strong and alive. The seemingly more violent conflict, the more vivid and pure emotions are involved and even if they are bad, if you resolve the conflict they recoil in good emotions
Earll
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Norway847 Posts
September 16 2011 22:59 GMT
#10
If I had to guesstimate I would say you probably have not had a huge amount of relationships (with girls you liked) Before this? What is (probably) 'wrong' with you is lack of experience, and you feel like you have 'finally' found someone, and if this does not pan out then you feel like you might go a long while till you find someone equal or whatever.

The only cure I can say will most certainly work against something like this is getting more experience\more relationships\more girls or whatever, that can go a long way to getting rid of neediness. But that is a more long term solution i guess. If you can't pull yourself together I predict a not so good end for you in the not too distant future though, it seems like you are way over invested in this compared to her, and stuff like this can go into an evil spiral of doom real fast. =p

If you want this to last then you are just going to have to stop being needy. If you ever think sometihng MIGHT come across as needy, even if you have somehow convinced yourself that it is not out of needyness that you want to do\say it, don't.
Wat
Maand
Profile Joined April 2010
326 Posts
September 16 2011 23:04 GMT
#11
Ah before I go too sleep. Here's a funny quote from wiki about Albert Ellis.

Ellis had exaggerated fears of speaking in public and during his adolescence he was extremely shy around women. At age 19, already showing signs of thinking like a cognitive-behavioral therapist, he forced himself to talk to 100 women in the Bronx Botanical Gardens over a period of a month. Even though he did not get a date, he reported that he desensitized himself to his fear of rejection by women.


You can quite literarily train such things
VarmVaffel
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway378 Posts
September 16 2011 23:10 GMT
#12
On September 17 2011 07:53 GigaFlop wrote:
15-year-old girls aren't the most mentally stable...

Pretty much.

I'm not generally too fond of generalizing people like this, but there's a good point to be made here. Even though they can seem like they are mature, they aren't really at that age. You should take that into consideration.

She, the same as you, still have a lot to learn.
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
September 16 2011 23:13 GMT
#13
thanks for all the advice you guys. It means alot to me that you take your time and actually try to help me out. big hearts to you all <3
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
Zombie_Velociraptor
Profile Joined May 2011
274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 23:18:46
September 16 2011 23:17 GMT
#14
This probably isn't going to be very helpful at all, but after reading this:

She is 15 years old and I am 20 years old. It's 4 years between us on paper, but in reality its pretty much 5 years


I can see why the title of the blog is 'what's wrong with me'...
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 23:19:49
September 16 2011 23:19 GMT
#15
On September 17 2011 08:17 Zombie_Velociraptor wrote:
This probably isn't going to be very helpful at all, but after reading this:

Show nested quote +
She is 15 years old and I am 20 years old. It's 4 years between us on paper, but in reality its pretty much 5 years


I can see why the title of the blog is 'what's wrong with me'...


what do you want to have said with that?

EDIT after you EDITED: Yeah thanks, douche.
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
September 16 2011 23:21 GMT
#16
Have you had a girlfriend before this one? IMO it sounds like its your first relationship, and you are taking everything way too seriously because of that. Maybe its inner fear that unless everything is perfect, you guys will break up. Many people in their first relationship suffer from this clingy effect, fearing that the relationship may end and all of these new experiences and feelings will be over.

I suggest trying your hardest to start taking everything positively, and do things to take your mind off of negative thoughts. Everytime you argue about the same thing , it probably puts a small rift into your relationship that could possibly blow up some time later on. I would advise backing down a little and resisting the urge to argue. In general its good to be calm and level headed in every portion of your relationship, and would benefit not only you, but her aswell.

Lastly realize she is very young, and most likely has a completely different mindset than you regarding all kinds of things. Even if the relationship doesnt work out in the end, dont treat it as the end of the world and learn from it and build on it. After a while you will find its much easier to remain calm and basically roll with the punches.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 16 2011 23:25 GMT
#17
On September 17 2011 08:19 TOCHMY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 08:17 Zombie_Velociraptor wrote:
This probably isn't going to be very helpful at all, but after reading this:

She is 15 years old and I am 20 years old. It's 4 years between us on paper, but in reality its pretty much 5 years


I can see why the title of the blog is 'what's wrong with me'...


what do you want to have said with that?

EDIT after you EDITED: Yeah thanks, douche.

Seriously bro shes probably too young for you anyway.

Remember, if her favorite toy doesnt vibrate shes too young for you bro.

But in all reality, shes young as fuck, give her some space and stop being so fucking clingy wow. Thats like the #1 thing girls hate is clingy as fuck guys
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
DoubleZee
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada556 Posts
September 16 2011 23:26 GMT
#18
Don't date a 15 year old. Seriously. Can't you be arrested if you guys have a bad breakup and she claims you "raped" her? It's never a good idea to date someone that young when you're not the same age.
Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
September 16 2011 23:29 GMT
#19
On September 17 2011 08:26 DoubleZee wrote:
Don't date a 15 year old. Seriously. Can't you be arrested if you guys have a bad breakup and she claims you "raped" her? It's never a good idea to date someone that young when you're not the same age.


you can get arrested if anyone says you raped her, but yeah i get ur point.
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
nicknt
Profile Joined October 2010
185 Posts
September 16 2011 23:33 GMT
#20
you seem to be clingy and crave drama, stop doing that.
DKR
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom622 Posts
September 16 2011 23:38 GMT
#21
On September 17 2011 08:26 DoubleZee wrote:
Don't date a 15 year old. Seriously. Can't you be arrested if you guys have a bad breakup and she claims you "raped" her? It's never a good idea to date someone that young when you're not the same age.


Half your age + 7 is the rule I heard for acceptable dating ages...
"1 base. Cheese man." - MKP. "[MVP] is not stylistic, his style is winning, which is the style you want to have." - Artosis
illKarasu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States58 Posts
September 16 2011 23:51 GMT
#22
as an exercise take a moment to gain a different perspective. The goal of the exercise is to consider that at different ages, and hanging out with different age groups, one's life has different priorities.

saying this, I am not judging, but pointing out the fact that for example, work may be a priority for you but job/career may have absolutely no bearing in "annie's" life. I'm sure there are many other observable comparisons from inane (TV shows and demographics based on interest) to more serious (status of getting a new car/new license).

Next, from these observations step back and realize that at 15 you were seeking different life experiences than you are now. Since TOCHMY at 15 there has been much learning thus TOCHYMY at 20 is not exactly the same OP. I think I'm trying to say that if nothing else you have to be patient when a younger person is not on your wavelength, or even someone at your same age cannot see things how you see them. If it helps, do my exercise by comparing your current self to a 15 year old cousin, or a young kid you see in the supermarket. Can't you imagine them in vastly different life circumstances? Does that mean that two such different people should necessarily always agree on how to live or interact with each other?

To give a wild answer to your last questions: logic doesn't always work, and personal experience doesn't work except maybe to temper your reactions to feeling icky. A relationship is what it is, there is no "coasting on good, sometimes hitting bad spots or potentially becoming ruined." Friends, family, girlfriend. They are all just how they are, you choose how you interact and react to them.

btw since you've read this far in my post, imho some of the above advices may be useful to you, just don't take some of them to be mean-spirited and outright ignore them. Consider them as different points of view (even if you feel insulted a lil lol)

phew, glhfhfhfhf!!!
DoubleZee
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada556 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 23:55:59
September 16 2011 23:54 GMT
#23
On September 17 2011 08:29 TOCHMY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 08:26 DoubleZee wrote:
Don't date a 15 year old. Seriously. Can't you be arrested if you guys have a bad breakup and she claims you "raped" her? It's never a good idea to date someone that young when you're not the same age.


you can get arrested if anyone says you raped her, but yeah i get ur point.


Statutory rape, not "real rape". If you had sex, or even if she just SAID you did to someone, you could end up in jail. She's jail bait. Get the hell out, it's not worth the risk.

Not even going to get into how crazy/ignorant/unstable 15 year old girls are. Date someone done highschool at least.
Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!
Earll
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Norway847 Posts
September 17 2011 00:00 GMT
#24
On September 17 2011 08:54 DoubleZee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 08:29 TOCHMY wrote:
On September 17 2011 08:26 DoubleZee wrote:
Don't date a 15 year old. Seriously. Can't you be arrested if you guys have a bad breakup and she claims you "raped" her? It's never a good idea to date someone that young when you're not the same age.


you can get arrested if anyone says you raped her, but yeah i get ur point.


Statutory rape, not "real rape". If you had sex, or even if she just SAID you did to someone, you could end up in jail. She's jail bait. Get the hell out, it's not worth the risk.

Not even going to get into how crazy/ignorant/unstable 15 year old girls are. Date someone done highschool at least.


Age of consent is 15 in sweden.
Wat
josemb40
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Peru611 Posts
September 17 2011 00:02 GMT
#25
15 years old dude, get over it
wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
DoubleZee
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada556 Posts
September 17 2011 00:30 GMT
#26
On September 17 2011 09:00 Earll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 08:54 DoubleZee wrote:
On September 17 2011 08:29 TOCHMY wrote:
On September 17 2011 08:26 DoubleZee wrote:
Don't date a 15 year old. Seriously. Can't you be arrested if you guys have a bad breakup and she claims you "raped" her? It's never a good idea to date someone that young when you're not the same age.


you can get arrested if anyone says you raped her, but yeah i get ur point.


Statutory rape, not "real rape". If you had sex, or even if she just SAID you did to someone, you could end up in jail. She's jail bait. Get the hell out, it's not worth the risk.

Not even going to get into how crazy/ignorant/unstable 15 year old girls are. Date someone done highschool at least.


Age of consent is 15 in sweden.


Oh...those crazy swedes...my 2nd piece of advice still stands.
Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!
Battleaxe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States843 Posts
September 17 2011 00:36 GMT
#27
On September 17 2011 09:00 Earll wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 17 2011 08:54 DoubleZee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 08:29 TOCHMY wrote:
On September 17 2011 08:26 DoubleZee wrote:
Don't date a 15 year old. Seriously. Can't you be arrested if you guys have a bad breakup and she claims you "raped" her? It's never a good idea to date someone that young when you're not the same age.


you can get arrested if anyone says you raped her, but yeah i get ur point.


Statutory rape, not "real rape". If you had sex, or even if she just SAID you did to someone, you could end up in jail. She's jail bait. Get the hell out, it's not worth the risk.

Not even going to get into how crazy/ignorant/unstable 15 year old girls are. Date someone done highschool at least.


Age of consent is 15 in sweden.


Was planning on posting about age difference, looks like it doesn't matter, gl hf!

Seriously though, there has been some really good advice in the comments, I'd take some of it and apply it the best you can. From what I was reading some of your issue may also stem from not completely trusting her. If I'm mistaken I apologize, but it's certainly not out of the ordinary to feel distrust at times, especially when you know she's young in school with other dudes all the time, etc. One thing to keep in mind is that YOU'RE that older dude the guys at school can't get your girl to forget about. Most relationships I've noticed with two people as young as yourselves end up with the older person breaking up with the younger one. If you're clingy, that rule goes right out the window, so as long as you give him her space and try to be mindful of when you may be going too far, I think you'll be fine.
Without a community, we're all just a bunch of geeks.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44441 Posts
September 17 2011 00:36 GMT
#28
You sound pretty masochistic to me o.o

You just gotta learn to stop being clingy; apparently you know what you gotta do. Now just... do it.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
nBk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
174 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 01:28:48
September 17 2011 01:23 GMT
#29
Just a bit of advice, remember she is still only 15 years old, and also she is still going through those normal changes a teenager goes through.

She could feel/be completely different in a year, or even tomorrow - you never know. Just always be aware of that fact bud.

Also, being clingy is a bad thing. I know how you feel though because I sometimes do it myself, but, do try to avoid that the best you can.

And not to be mean or anything, but if in fact this doesn't work out eventually, which honestly it probably wont. Date someone closer to your age because dating anyone that young will only cause you problems since they're still young and going through changes like I previously stated.

Above all, don't get too attached this early or you'll just hurt yourself in the long run. Take it slow and steady man and try to be understanding to a girl of that age and things should be alright.
We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will.
Kojak21
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1104 Posts
September 17 2011 01:45 GMT
#30
You gotta hit it and quit it
¯\_(☺)_/¯
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
September 17 2011 02:02 GMT
#31
You seem to exhibit some OCD type behavior. give her some space. she's still in school after all and has other activities and friends to worry about (teenage stuff). you seem to expect a level of maturity/commitment not found in most 15 year olds. i would find someone closer to your age and who you can see on a regular basis if i were you.
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
September 17 2011 02:03 GMT
#32
On September 17 2011 09:00 Earll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 08:54 DoubleZee wrote:
On September 17 2011 08:29 TOCHMY wrote:
On September 17 2011 08:26 DoubleZee wrote:
Don't date a 15 year old. Seriously. Can't you be arrested if you guys have a bad breakup and she claims you "raped" her? It's never a good idea to date someone that young when you're not the same age.


you can get arrested if anyone says you raped her, but yeah i get ur point.


Statutory rape, not "real rape". If you had sex, or even if she just SAID you did to someone, you could end up in jail. She's jail bait. Get the hell out, it's not worth the risk.

Not even going to get into how crazy/ignorant/unstable 15 year old girls are. Date someone done highschool at least.


Age of consent is 15 in sweden.

I've been waiting for the US to embrace this kind of common sense for a long time...
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
RedJustice
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1004 Posts
September 17 2011 02:18 GMT
#33
Everyone is talking about how she is immature and stuffs. I think it's pretty irrelevant.

While the relationship is having it's problems, I think you should focus more on the title of your blog-- what's wrong with you. Ultimately you can only change yourself, and regardless of how this relationship turns out, fixing yourself will be a long term permanent fix, rather than a bandaid on something that may not last.

Why do you have so much insecurity? Either you are creating problems that don't exist out of your insecurity, or you are so insecure that you got into and are staying in a relationship that is not good. If you address your insecurity the problems will go away in one form or another, and hopefully prevent the same thing in any future relationships.
Thorn Raven
Profile Joined November 2010
United States126 Posts
September 17 2011 02:31 GMT
#34
On September 17 2011 07:36 TOCHMY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 07:31 munchmunch wrote:
There's nothing wrong with you. It's natural to be insecure in a relationship, especially when you are not getting the face-time that you need. From the sounds of it, it's not her fault either. Human relationships don't magically work, you need to make them work. I suggest:

(a) Make plans that sound fun, not a last resort. Don't say, let's hangout, say, let's watch a movie, or go someplace, etc.

(b) Give her some slack for being 15; she's really young and should be allowed to make a lot of mistakes.

(c) Give yourself some slack for being 20; you might not realize it, but you're still really young. You probably have a lot of stuff to learn, and lots of chances at romance ahead of you. The odds are that this relationship won't last your whole life, and that's a good thing. Enjoy what you have, and try to be less insecure. Don't worry about not being perfect.



thank you


Yes. The truth is, everything is going to be okay. Just keep telling that to your self as you continue to pursue her. And pursue her.

The perspectives that munchmunch provided aren't just pieces of knowledge, rather, they are wisdom; a way of thinking that can become part of who you are.

I can be hard, but remember these things. Remember. Work at them.
supaplex
Profile Joined July 2011
United States75 Posts
September 17 2011 03:00 GMT
#35
so hows that young meat? just wondering since i would never muster enough courage to even hit on preteens
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
September 17 2011 07:32 GMT
#36
Thank you, everyone, for the great awesome thoughts and tips. I definetely feel like I know what to do now and I have something to work with. I was totally clueless when I made this post.

Thank! <3
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
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