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deafhobbit
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States828 Posts
September 16 2011 01:27 GMT
#41
I like to think I'm an exception to this trend.

Though, i do tend to hang with a more refined crowd than most of the rest of the 2010 posters...
I cheer for underdogs and Flash
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
September 16 2011 01:36 GMT
#42
What happens if you joined in 2011? Are the signs the same?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
NathanSC
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States620 Posts
September 16 2011 01:38 GMT
#43
On September 16 2011 10:36 Darkdeath3 wrote:
What happens if you joined in 2011? Are the signs the same?


Sadly, there is no known cure at this time.
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
September 16 2011 01:51 GMT
#44
On September 16 2011 10:38 NathanSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 10:36 Darkdeath3 wrote:
What happens if you joined in 2011? Are the signs the same?


Sadly, there is no known cure at this time.

I've heard the mortality rate is frighteningly high...
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
September 16 2011 02:28 GMT
#45
Damn I suck
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 03:01:13
September 16 2011 03:00 GMT
#46
'10 represent, haters going to hate.

but I am a BW guy so that makes me cooler and very hipster imo.

True story.
WriterXiao8~~
Kanil
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1713 Posts
September 16 2011 03:24 GMT
#47
On September 16 2011 12:00 Kipsate wrote:
'10 represent, haters going to hate.

but I am a BW guy so that makes me cooler and very hipster imo.

True story.

Fuck yeah 2010 BW hipsters!

Anyway, I don't see how this is remotely surprising. Like 80% of the TL userbase is 2010+, so 80% of the shit posters would likely also be 2010+. Even more when you consider the pre-2010 shit posters have had that much longer to get banned for being shit posters.
I used to have an Oz icon over here ---->
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 16 2011 03:40 GMT
#48
On September 16 2011 12:24 Kanil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 12:00 Kipsate wrote:
'10 represent, haters going to hate.

but I am a BW guy so that makes me cooler and very hipster imo.

True story.

Fuck yeah 2010 BW hipsters!

Anyway, I don't see how this is remotely surprising. Like 80% of the TL userbase is 2010+, so 80% of the shit posters would likely also be 2010+. Even more when you consider the pre-2010 shit posters have had that much longer to get banned for being shit posters.


That is one awesome sig you have rofl
WriterXiao8~~
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
September 16 2011 04:09 GMT
#49
On September 16 2011 10:51 Aeres wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 10:38 NathanSC wrote:
On September 16 2011 10:36 Darkdeath3 wrote:
What happens if you joined in 2011? Are the signs the same?


Sadly, there is no known cure at this time.

I've heard the mortality rate is frighteningly high...

Now that hurt my feelings.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
SarR
Profile Joined June 2011
476 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 05:23:12
September 16 2011 05:23 GMT
#50
I never realized how many people here carry an elitist mentality until I read some of the responses to this blog. Seriously, some of you take yourselves way too seriously. Lighten up.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
September 16 2011 05:47 GMT
#51
On September 16 2011 12:00 Kipsate wrote:
'10 represent, haters going to hate.

but I am a BW guy so that makes me cooler and very hipster imo.

True story.

You're a giant noob though.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
deafhobbit
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States828 Posts
September 16 2011 07:49 GMT
#52
On September 16 2011 14:23 SarR wrote:
I never realized how many people here carry an elitist mentality until I read some of the responses to this blog. Seriously, some of you take yourselves way too seriously. Lighten up.


I think the average quality of a Sc2 LR thread justifies the level of elitism in this thread.
I cheer for underdogs and Flash
dakalro
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania525 Posts
September 16 2011 08:20 GMT
#53
Stereotyping at its best. And what's the point of the disclaimer? It's only confusing. The blog is not satire, or you missed the point of satire. It's a bit of a rant cleverly disguised in a sort of elitism, by someone who joined in 2008.

Fun read though. Was impressive to see the pot I've been thrown into with such nonchalance. Is stereotyping that common? Do all people just apply characteristics to people just because of a small thing in common? Where has a person defining a person gone to?

I guess Americans are fat idiots.
NathanSC
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States620 Posts
September 16 2011 10:09 GMT
#54
On September 16 2011 17:20 dakalro wrote:
Stereotyping at its best. And what's the point of the disclaimer? It's only confusing. The blog is not satire, or you missed the point of satire. It's a bit of a rant cleverly disguised in a sort of elitism, by someone who joined in 2008.

Fun read though. Was impressive to see the pot I've been thrown into with such nonchalance. Is stereotyping that common? Do all people just apply characteristics to people just because of a small thing in common? Where has a person defining a person gone to?

I guess Americans are fat idiots.

It's satire. It's much more disguised than I intended, and that's due to my poor writing skills.

Older members of the TL community often bemoan how the forums have changed since SC2 beta began and an influx of new people arrived, which was 2010. For some proof of this, head over to the automated ban list discussion thread, or you can dig around and find more evidence elsewhere. It's not unanimous by any means. It does exist though.

So what my blog aims to hint at is that things aren't actually all that different from where they were pre-2010 ("there's no strict evidence to support that this phenomenon even began in 2010"). I'm largely calling everyone who joined after 2010 to be a troll, while being a troll myself and a community member since 2008. I call the blog a troll because it pokes fun at 80% of the forum in one go, which is the process of flamebaiting, one of the more infamous troll tactics.

People have done all those things since before 2010. So it's satire because it's an attempt at holding elitism up for ridicule, as pre-2010 or pre-SC2 members really did the same shit.

I'm not arguing that it's great satire, as I'm not a fantastic writer and I lost sight of a clear direction every now and then. I clearly could have done a much better job and probably should have spent more time on it. It was done in good humor though, and I genuinely don't mean to offend anyone.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 11:03:23
September 16 2011 10:59 GMT
#55
Yeah this has been noticeable for ages. TL should honestly crack down on low content posts in some areas of the forum at least. People come to to a thread with 1000+ posts, read none of it, post a retarded one liner, never read the thread again.

Even in a thread where there was a mod message to ask people to think 'do you need to post this' before they post there was still hundreds of pages of bullshit. Chances are in most of these threads people are just entirely repeating what someone else said anyway. So some threads are unreadable, SC2 LR being the most worthless.

And yeah i know you said you are not serious but you obviously have some truth in there.
ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
September 16 2011 11:16 GMT
#56
lol the people writing the comments here are so confused....g.g.
Come motivate me to be cynical about animus at http://infinityandone.blogspot.com/ // Stork proxy gates are beautiful.
dakalro
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 11:47:29
September 16 2011 11:46 GMT
#57
On September 16 2011 19:09 NathanSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 17:20 dakalro wrote:
Stereotyping at its best. And what's the point of the disclaimer? It's only confusing. The blog is not satire, or you missed the point of satire. It's a bit of a rant cleverly disguised in a sort of elitism, by someone who joined in 2008.

Fun read though. Was impressive to see the pot I've been thrown into with such nonchalance. Is stereotyping that common? Do all people just apply characteristics to people just because of a small thing in common? Where has a person defining a person gone to?

I guess Americans are fat idiots.

It's satire. It's much more disguised than I intended, and that's due to my poor writing skills.

Older members of the TL community often bemoan how the forums have changed since SC2 beta began and an influx of new people arrived, which was 2010. For some proof of this, head over to the automated ban list discussion thread, or you can dig around and find more evidence elsewhere. It's not unanimous by any means. It does exist though.

So what my blog aims to hint at is that things aren't actually all that different from where they were pre-2010 ("there's no strict evidence to support that this phenomenon even began in 2010"). I'm largely calling everyone who joined after 2010 to be a troll, while being a troll myself and a community member since 2008. I call the blog a troll because it pokes fun at 80% of the forum in one go, which is the process of flamebaiting, one of the more infamous troll tactics.

People have done all those things since before 2010. So it's satire because it's an attempt at holding elitism up for ridicule, as pre-2010 or pre-SC2 members really did the same shit.

I'm not arguing that it's great satire, as I'm not a fantastic writer and I lost sight of a clear direction every now and then. I clearly could have done a much better job and probably should have spent more time on it. It was done in good humor though, and I genuinely don't mean to offend anyone.


It's not the forum trust me. Comparing 2 years ago / pre-SC2 to now is not a big change. The entire internet turned into a crapper for all the idiots due to computers and internet being easier and easier to access. Invasion of the trolls it's called. They only die by fire or acid.

Just like those drunkards on the street that feel immune, lose their sober identity, yelling and spouting shit and arguing over any little idiocy, the internet seems to give them the same power, and they use it as they use it while drunk. Most common clue is reading half the first post and misunderstanding and posting your "answer" on page 50.

PS: I got a nice big list of spec changes to the software I'm working on this morning and the entire communication protocol changed with it; about halfway through. Your post was easy venting )

PPS: Work on your writing, it's nowhere near satire on elitism. You're a self proclaimed troll though so quality doesn't matter for you I suppose.
Vlare
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 12:13:14
September 16 2011 12:03 GMT
#58
I think the internet has just gone down the drain these last few years, it doesn't really have much to do with the "20xx x crowds" . However, I do come from many other gaming community's and I have noticed that the TL community tends to be much more.. soft? I'm not sure if that word best describes what I mean. So let me try to explain.

People on TL seem to be much more oblivious to trolling. They seem to get troll'd very easilly, upset very quick, and have a n extremely low tolerance for "Fun/Stupid" things. And while I don't think having a low tolerance for these sorts of things is neccessarely bad, I think it's important to realize that MOST other communities have very different environments, so for many people coming from other community's, TL community can easilly come off as carebears in this regard.

Elitism is often not taken lightly, while in other games, elitism is the standard. A prime example of this is the strategy forum. Countless times I find myself bored and looking for something to read and I find a thread that has somehow been left in the strat forum reading " HI IM JOESHOE, IM A GOLD LEAGUE X AND THIS IS MY BUILD THAT WORKS. I THINK ITS SUPER DUPER. HERE IS A BO AND BE CRUSHING OTHER GOLD PEOPLE"

And while I guess this is helpful topeople who are gold or subgold, its so often so easy to see countless flaws in most of these builds so long as you assume your opponent isn't completely horrible.

But I guess the issue with this sort of thinking is that 90%~ percent of the community is actually not on a high level. Which is again something I myself, and possibly many other people are not used to.

Maybe if top tier players had their own forum to discuss strategy where goldness mcgee and his friends with limited game knowledge could not jump in and throw in stupid troll comments like "OH LOL BUT GHOST AND INFESTOR OPOP" it would reduce the amount of trolling. I don't know.

8am rant sorry if it doesn't make sense, I'll edit when Im home in 6~hours.

@ topic.

internet has gone down the drain. many Wow-esque players. Sadness all around.

Edit : I'm 2010 fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Hahaha
Mass zerglings doesnt fail
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50637 Posts
September 16 2011 12:09 GMT
#59
2010 represent,lurking since forever.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 12:23:10
September 16 2011 12:22 GMT
#60
On September 16 2011 21:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:
2010 represent,lurking since forever.

me 2. I lurked since 2003

I'm not one of these scummy 2010 people!
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
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