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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
August 25 2011 00:40 GMT
#1
Around the time of mid February this year, I began to suspect a large part of my general unhappiness and confused approach to my own identity was due to dissatisfaction with being a male. Throughout childhood I had been ridiculed, bullied, and generally ostracized for my personal interests as they were considered effeminate or more crudely "gay" or "faggy" . I personally never really associated recreational activities with gender identity. I saw things much more simply. Cooking and gardening were simply cooking and gardening, not masculine, not feminine, just an activity that some were inclined to enjoy and others were not. While others looked upon me as being effeminate I never really saw it. I knew and was very comfortable with the fact that I was, biologically, a male.

I never put any serious consideration as to whether I wanted to be something else until my interests in female fashion grew. I began to realize I had a lot of struggles maintaining friendships with men because of the lack of platonic physical affection and the general disinterest in discussing personal feelings and experiences. With women I found it quite easy to get along. I've always liked to talk about my feelings and being able to be physically close to my friends without feeling out of place or whatever. I found myself with a huge number of female friends, very few male friends, and a newfound interest in crossdressing.

So I had a major gender identity crisis. I had accepted that, in basically every aspect of my life, I would feel more comfortable if I were a woman. But there were major cons.

The first and most obvious is that making a physical transformation from one sex to the other is an arduous and difficult task and given my size of 6'3 and broad shouldered frame I would probably never achieve a state of physical attractiveness that I found comfortable. Secondly, I have always found myself primarily, I'd say 80/20 in my case, attracted to women sexually. The thought of being with a man was rarely arousing except during strange moods or drunken fantasies and I would be severely limiting my relationship opportunities and putting a huge dent in my potential sex life.

I guess now I have come to see myself as not having much of a gender identity. I care very little about being a "man" and if I could wave a magic wand and become an attractive and petite female, I think I almost certainly would. I don't know how to identify myself because I currently place no particular importance or value on my inner sense of gender identity and I suppose I am now more satisfied than I previously had been with my physical sex. I suppose that's all my thoughts on the matter and I wonder if I will ever have another period in which my desire to be a woman is rekindled or perhaps even seriously nurtured. I feel pretty neutral on the matter in regards to being male or female at the moment. I have no particular desire to be anything. My sex drive has diminished almost completely. I experience sexual arousal maybe once seriously every couple of days, despite being in a relationship with a girl who I am very physically attracted to, I rarely experience serious lust and I worry it will become an obstacle to our sex life (yet to begin, as it is a long distance relationship and we aren't to meet until December). I don't really know. I'm not looking for therapy or answers I guess I'm just sharing my experience. I'm more than willing to discuss it though. Don't worry about offending me if you say something stupid and mean I'll just make a non sequitur remark or something whatever i don't think i've ever posted it before but i've read quite a bit from trans posters on TL so this is my story i guess maybe it's interesting to you

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edc
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States666 Posts
August 25 2011 00:48 GMT
#2
From your description, I think it is safe to say that you are straight, but you are slightly leaning towards bisexuality. No matter what happens, PLEASE don't become transsexual or change your gender. You may get a bunch of shit for being who you are, but shrug it off and move on, living as the person you want to be.
“There are two kinds of people in this world, those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.” - Clint Eastwood
koOl
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada254 Posts
August 25 2011 00:50 GMT
#3
On August 25 2011 09:48 edc wrote:
From your description, I think it is safe to say that you are straight, but you are slightly leaning towards bisexuality. No matter what happens, PLEASE don't become transsexual or change your gender. You may get a bunch of shit for being who you are, but shrug it off and move on, living as the person you want to be.


and why not? yes, transgendered people struggle a lot in society but some it is truly the only way they can be happy. but there are of course things to consider before "transitioning". including whether you could become "passable" as a female or not
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
August 25 2011 00:53 GMT
#4
On August 25 2011 09:48 edc wrote:
From your description, I think it is safe to say that you are straight, but you are slightly leaning towards bisexuality. No matter what happens, PLEASE don't become transsexual or change your gender. You may get a bunch of shit for being who you are, but shrug it off and move on, living as the person you want to be.


i could count the times i've been sexually aroused by a member of the same sex on one hand and it was never for their masculine traits i have no problem calling myself straight sexuality is fluid anyway i don't think it really matters what i call it
RIP Aaliyah
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
August 25 2011 00:53 GMT
#5
I find that this problem has far less to do with you than you think, and far more to do with culture being a terrible poison in our world. There is no such thing as "masculine" and "feminine" activities, just things that people do that they enjoy.

Take less interest in those around you who have the brainwash already completed, stupid people consumed by our culture and society. They are of no help to you sir, and best be ignored if can.


And btw, I love gardening and cooking. Cooking is honestly a very "manly" thing to do. When you want an example of actual human nature, the only place to look is before culture took us off the deep end, thousands and thousands of years ago. Anything by today's standards just isn't true human nature.
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Wohmfg
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1292 Posts
August 25 2011 00:54 GMT
#6
Fascinating read man, thanks for sharing. Any idea why your sex drive has diminished?
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Gheed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States972 Posts
August 25 2011 00:56 GMT
#7
So dress in women's clothes and have sex with women. It seems to work for Eddie Izzard.
edc
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States666 Posts
August 25 2011 00:56 GMT
#8
On August 25 2011 09:50 koOl wrote:
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On August 25 2011 09:48 edc wrote:
From your description, I think it is safe to say that you are straight, but you are slightly leaning towards bisexuality. No matter what happens, PLEASE don't become transsexual or change your gender. You may get a bunch of shit for being who you are, but shrug it off and move on, living as the person you want to be.


and why not? yes, transgendered people struggle a lot in society but some it is truly the only way they can be happy. but there are of course things to consider before "transitioning". including whether you could become "passable" as a female or not

The OP said that he wouldn't look convincingly female if his genitals were changed because of his body frame. Also, I really want him to put a lot of time into thinking over whether he should have a sex change or not, as it can seriously affect your life negatively. Yes, you are correct when you said that some people are truly happy with being transsexual, but the OP wasn't even that interested in being so. The main point of my post was to tell him to ignore the rudeness he will get if not already has from others and to be who he wants to be, not to get a sex change.
“There are two kinds of people in this world, those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.” - Clint Eastwood
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
August 25 2011 00:56 GMT
#9
On August 25 2011 09:54 Wohmfg wrote:
Fascinating read man, thanks for sharing. Any idea why your sex drive has diminished?

several ideas

1. my diet has changed considerably as i've been struggling heavily with anorexic tendencies although i hesitate to call myself anorexic but probably approaching it

2. i am depressed more than i was the previous month when i was very sexually driven

3. coming off of anti anxiety medication

4. i'm in a long distance relationship and i might be suppressing my sexual desires subconsciously for that reason
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
August 25 2011 00:57 GMT
#10
On August 25 2011 09:56 Gheed wrote:
So dress in women's clothes and have sex with women. It seems to work for Eddie Izzard.

yeah i think that's how it's gonna be my girlfriend said she'll buy me a nice dress
RIP Aaliyah
Wohmfg
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1292 Posts
August 25 2011 01:15 GMT
#11
On August 25 2011 09:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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On August 25 2011 09:54 Wohmfg wrote:
Fascinating read man, thanks for sharing. Any idea why your sex drive has diminished?

several ideas

1. my diet has changed considerably as i've been struggling heavily with anorexic tendencies although i hesitate to call myself anorexic but probably approaching it

2. i am depressed more than i was the previous month when i was very sexually driven

3. coming off of anti anxiety medication

4. i'm in a long distance relationship and i might be suppressing my sexual desires subconsciously for that reason


That makes sense, I hope you get that stuff sorted. It's great that your gf will buy you a dress haha.
BW4Life!
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 01:20:11
August 25 2011 01:18 GMT
#12
basically all i have to say is, do what you like...but keep in mind if you mess with your body in any permanent way there is no going back (should be obvious but i can see how people would overlook that little detail just make sure you dont if you do)

our society is fucked up, plain and simple...what we try to do as a society is create a label of "perfection" and if you are not exactly that then you will be persecuted for not being the model of perfection, regardless of the reason. there are many people who suffer from tons of different things where society pits itself against them, it goes through american history. the classic example here is skin color...it doesnt matter at all, yet people placed labels on people based on the color of their skin and thus racism was born which took forever to get out of the mainstream...currently the large issue where this is happening is glt (gay/lesbian/transgendered) are being persecuted and wanting their rights as human beings, however society (in all their ignorance and stupidity) believes that people are inherently meant to be what they are born and like certain things/people however this isnt the case at all, this is where "faggy" or "gay" come from as insults, because they differ from the established norm they become persecuted...however no amount of persecution can change who you are, live out your life as you see fit with no holds barred, tradition will try to dictate your life and hold you back from your own happiness which very well might be reached through a gender switch, its entirely possible.

i personally consider myself a generally accepting person of others in all areas except when people ignorantly hate on others due to established tradition/society...its quite possibly the most disgusting thing ive ever seen happen, why mess with others because they're different...just why /endrant

sorry about ranting in your blog lol but seriously gl with your ventures whatever they may be, just experiment and if it is truly for you then go ahead and go for it...we only have one life (as far as i know lol) so why waste it because someone else will mess with you for your choices?


On August 25 2011 09:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 09:56 Gheed wrote:
So dress in women's clothes and have sex with women. It seems to work for Eddie Izzard.

yeah i think that's how it's gonna be my girlfriend said she'll buy me a nice dress

stick with her lol, supportive gf's are the best possible thing you can find :D shes clearly awesome :3
PopeTimusPrime
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States36 Posts
August 25 2011 01:31 GMT
#13
Just curious as to how old the OP is?
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 01:32:57
August 25 2011 01:32 GMT
#14
On August 25 2011 10:31 PopeTimusPrime wrote:
Just curious as to how old the OP is?

19 curious to why it's relevant
RIP Aaliyah
Rayzorblade
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1172 Posts
August 25 2011 01:33 GMT
#15
I don't have much to add, but this was an intriguing read. Very well-articulated.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 02:08:17
August 25 2011 02:06 GMT
#16
There is nothing wrong with being an effeminate male. Same can be said about being asexual.

D.H. I think he's trying to say your still young. But, I'd say your pretty mature for your age.
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
August 25 2011 05:58 GMT
#17
In my immediate family, we have a transexual (man -> woman). I'm very familiar with the process and how it affected our family (the majority of us were very supportive). Feel free to PM me if you have questions about it.

Regarding what you posted... I've also had issues with gender roles for most of my life. It's tough for me to feel comfortable around some of my guy friends while being true to myself and I see you've run into that problem yourself. I like being around my guy friends when we're sharing an activity like gaming, or watching NFL, but when it comes to talking about personal issues, I feel much more comfortable amongst women there (however, I do like talking with guys more about technical and logical matters). I don't feel like I have anything to hide from women. With guys around I feel a strong pressure to conform and it's very uncomfortable sometimes.

I enjoyed reading your story even though I don't have much advice to offer for you at the moment. Again, feel free to PM me with any questions about transexualism at any stage of the process.
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Atticus.axl
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States456 Posts
August 25 2011 07:15 GMT
#18
One of the best possible paths to take for someone in your shoes is to continue talking to members of the trans community about their experiences. More importantly, try to communicate to them what you're going through, and see if their experience was something similar. It is vitally important that you end up with a body you are comfortable with, and a sexual identity with which you may best express your gender, but it is still a very serious thing to consider.

Having worked in the field, the best piece of advice I may give you is to focus on the types of personalities you are attracted to first, gender second. For example, if you meet someone with a personality you fall in love with, yet cannot summon any attraction due to their gender, you have your answer.
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CaM27
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium392 Posts
August 25 2011 11:30 GMT
#19
Tough (luck) feelings :\ - Really dunno what to say!
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 12:13:26
August 25 2011 12:03 GMT
#20
if you grow up in your basement watching anime about magical princess lolis and highschool harems then you're gonna find yourself, psychologically, in a very different spot to someone who has grown up watching gangster movies and pimping bitches

you can correct it by exposing yourself to different things. learning how to be more masculine is going to help you a lot more than pawning over kpop. one makes you more attractive to society (ie other people) and one just embeds you in a fantasy world where you love these perfect ideal creatures so much that you wish you were one of them yourself! (because you havent experienced much else and had positive emotions come out of it)




experience: anorexic around 16 and later gender issues/confusion
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Revolt
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States288 Posts
August 25 2011 12:41 GMT
#21
so, basically, your letting other people lead you around in life?

youre gardener and cook. who fuck cares?
half the people i meet cant garden, nor cook.
if they have something negative to say about something
productive, then you really shouldnt take their criticism.

lust? my story is the same as you in that area.
my libido really decreased when i came to a conclusion
that i should really just look for one woman, as opposed to just satisfying my desire.
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Kontemptuous
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia132 Posts
August 25 2011 12:49 GMT
#22
On August 25 2011 16:15 Atticus.axl wrote:
One of the best possible paths to take for someone in your shoes is to continue talking to members of the trans community about their experiences. More importantly, try to communicate to them what you're going through, and see if their experience was something similar.

I agree with this^

If you choose not to associate yourself with a gender/don't really care about gender binary, that's totally fine. Different people want different things in life and if you're happy just being comfortable with yourself, then more power to you

Though your depression and lack of sex drive are things you might want to see a counsellor for or something (you did say you weren't looking for therapy, sorry; just saying).



However, if later on, you ever feel you want to rethink this:
On August 25 2011 09:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
The first and most obvious is that making a physical transformation from one sex to the other is an arduous and difficult task and given my size of 6'3 and broad shouldered frame I would probably never achieve a state of physical attractiveness that I found comfortable
....
and I would be severely limiting my relationship opportunities and putting a huge dent in my potential sex life.
I have no particular desire to be anything.



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bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
August 25 2011 12:55 GMT
#23
Based on what was written in the OP I think you're just a straight guy into cross-dressing, not a full-blown case of "girl in a guy's body". Yet.

Gender transition is a really, really big deal with severe physical consequences whereas dressing in drag and acting like a woman isn't. Try that out for a while and see how it fits; don't jump directly to the end game.
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
August 26 2011 02:22 GMT
#24
I never felt any resentment or ultimate dissatisfaction with being a physical male but I've always felt life would simply be easier if I were a female instead. I don't think I would ever go through a physical transformation.
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
September 07 2011 03:15 GMT
#25
On August 25 2011 11:06 StarStruck wrote:
There is nothing wrong with being an effeminate male. Same can be said about being asexual.

D.H. I think he's trying to say your still young. But, I'd say your pretty mature for your age.


very young, and these kind of questions/identity crisis by nature force you to be mature. I've yet to meet a trans person not mature for their age.

As an aside, please people don't confuse sexuality with gender. Just because you are a trans woman does not mean you need to be attracted to men. Just like non trans women can be lesbians, bi, asexual etc, so can trans women (and men). There is no one way to be trans.
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