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Bargil
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States141 Posts
August 18 2011 06:33 GMT
#1
So today, I started off watching streams before I hop on SC2 (I don't know why, somehow watching pros play usually motivates me to play good), and it was by far the weirdest session I have ever played.

I lost my first match against a Zerg player, completely diced me and outmacroed me. I didn't expand until the 12 minute mark (stopped me from expanding, did a really good job on it too) and that pretty much lost me the game. He went straight zergling roach, and I went the usual stalker-sentry-colossus build. I completely forgot to build zealots. He overwhelmed me with zerglings and took out my 3 colossus, leaving the battlefield with about 8 roaches, 9 stalkers, 2 sentries, and like 30 zerglings. I gg'd after that since I had nothing to come back with. He was on 4 base while I was on 2 and a half.

Not a very good start :\

Second game, this was just odd. A PvP, no problem here. This guy refuses to scout me after his initial scout (he saw my nexus and left). He proceeded to macro HARD on one base with no upgrades at all. I completely out macrod him this game and my first initial push did a decent amount of damage. At the 8 minute mark, I expanded and already had 1/1 armor-attack, though only had like 4 sentries, 8 stalkers and 7 zealots at this point. He tried to attack me with army and my immortal came out just in time to save my army. I force fielded the ramp to my natural and held off his push pretty well. After that, I double expo'd and proceeded to build colossus against this guys mass stalker/immortal. I sent about 3 observers to his bases and he JUST now started his 1st expansion. I was scratching my head at this point and found out that he had NO upgrades. AT ALL, but he had a big army. I then proceeded to warp in about 4 stalkers and intercepted his 2nd expo. I denied it and destroyed his army. He left without a GG.

This is where it gets stupid. I searched about 3 games, and the first one ended with the guy lagging when I scouted his base. He leaves. Free win. Then for the second game, I was stuck in the loading screen for about 8 minutes, I load completely and won because this guy fails to load. Next game, guy quits immediately saying he wanted to 'get through placement faster'. Hmm, 3 disconnected free wins. I wanted 3 fair games but I guess this works too lol

But the last game I played today was against a Zerg opponent. I HATE PvZ. Silver league, on this new Antiga Shipyard map apparently. I proceed to go a fast one-base colossus into expand, but he denied it for like 3 minutes with zerglings and roaches. By the time I got my expo down, he had an entire army of zergling/hydra/roach/corrupter/infestor. Geez, poor me had 4 colossus, 10 or so stalkers, 5 sentries and 2 zealots. He attacked and I tried to fend it off with proper force field placement and colo control. It worked, but I had 3 colossus with 5 stalkers remaining after this. He got his army up and attacked me with more roachling, and I had to gg since I didn't have any money to keep up the defense.

Overall, I had 1 legitimate win, 3 free wins, and 2 losses. Not a very standard laddering day (bad one in fact), but it'll have to do, though I actually played more Gold players than anything. The guy I played last actually told me that he was playing on his friend's account, and was actually Diamond league O_o. He told me after the game that *incoming brag* I was the best Protoss he's played so far in his friend's account. He also told me that I would've won if I expanded earlier. Oh well, guess it'll have to do.

Until next time. I will continue to pursue my goal to reach Pro level status. One day. One day...

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youtube.com/BargilStarcraft
Plutonik
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada329 Posts
August 18 2011 06:52 GMT
#2
dont do onebase collosus expand
but atleast you won more than you lost, that is all that is important imo
HomicidaL
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States283 Posts
August 18 2011 06:59 GMT
#3
Sounds like not that bad to me, it could be worse. Three Days ago I played really well, high diamond zerg went 9-3 was playing masters. All day to play today basically so i was hoping for masters. i played alot and went 5-17, alot of games were so so close, like it could have been 15-7 if some of those game I made one slight adjustment or microed better. My micro is killing me. I also lost a handful of games to cheese. now I am like mid diamond at best playing plats and some high diamonds agian. But i just kept playing! in hopes one day to be master lol.

Gl hf
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
August 18 2011 07:00 GMT
#4
lol no tvp?
whenever i ladder i never get a toss lol
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
Bargil
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States141 Posts
August 18 2011 07:05 GMT
#5
I really got to work on my builds a little better lol I could have won all the games I played today. I even saw what I did wrong in-game before I did it, but that turned out really bad. I don't know if it's standard, but almost every game I play I start off with a 3 or 2 gate robo and get a fast observer to scout their base and then expand usually. I tend to do better when I have already expanded since macro-ing from there to me is a bit easier.

Also, I get completely lost when I see Hydras. I debate on whether or not to go Archons or Colossus. :\
youtube.com/BargilStarcraft
Plutonik
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada329 Posts
August 18 2011 07:18 GMT
#6
no its fine to play safe with a 2-3gate robo, once when you start playing more and learning new things then you will understand when to fast expand etc, based on what you scout
Bargil
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States141 Posts
August 18 2011 17:24 GMT
#7
I'm one of those Protoss players who make use of warp prism drop play and harass mineral lines, and even if that don't work too well I'll reuse it as part of my army. I haven't seen a lot of players around my level even use or build a warp prism at all. It's such a useful unit, and it sucks to see it not be put into play
youtube.com/BargilStarcraft
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