• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:28
CET 15:28
KST 23:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win3RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13
StarCraft 2
General
Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4) BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win SC2 Proleague Discontinued; SKT, KT, SGK, CJ disband
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) RSL Offline FInals Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Which season is the best in ASL? Data analysis on 70 million replays BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread The Perfect Game Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Big Programming Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Physical Exertion During Gam…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1466 users

Laddering Session for today (Silver)

Blogs > Bargil
Post a Reply
Bargil
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States141 Posts
August 18 2011 06:33 GMT
#1
So today, I started off watching streams before I hop on SC2 (I don't know why, somehow watching pros play usually motivates me to play good), and it was by far the weirdest session I have ever played.

I lost my first match against a Zerg player, completely diced me and outmacroed me. I didn't expand until the 12 minute mark (stopped me from expanding, did a really good job on it too) and that pretty much lost me the game. He went straight zergling roach, and I went the usual stalker-sentry-colossus build. I completely forgot to build zealots. He overwhelmed me with zerglings and took out my 3 colossus, leaving the battlefield with about 8 roaches, 9 stalkers, 2 sentries, and like 30 zerglings. I gg'd after that since I had nothing to come back with. He was on 4 base while I was on 2 and a half.

Not a very good start :\

Second game, this was just odd. A PvP, no problem here. This guy refuses to scout me after his initial scout (he saw my nexus and left). He proceeded to macro HARD on one base with no upgrades at all. I completely out macrod him this game and my first initial push did a decent amount of damage. At the 8 minute mark, I expanded and already had 1/1 armor-attack, though only had like 4 sentries, 8 stalkers and 7 zealots at this point. He tried to attack me with army and my immortal came out just in time to save my army. I force fielded the ramp to my natural and held off his push pretty well. After that, I double expo'd and proceeded to build colossus against this guys mass stalker/immortal. I sent about 3 observers to his bases and he JUST now started his 1st expansion. I was scratching my head at this point and found out that he had NO upgrades. AT ALL, but he had a big army. I then proceeded to warp in about 4 stalkers and intercepted his 2nd expo. I denied it and destroyed his army. He left without a GG.

This is where it gets stupid. I searched about 3 games, and the first one ended with the guy lagging when I scouted his base. He leaves. Free win. Then for the second game, I was stuck in the loading screen for about 8 minutes, I load completely and won because this guy fails to load. Next game, guy quits immediately saying he wanted to 'get through placement faster'. Hmm, 3 disconnected free wins. I wanted 3 fair games but I guess this works too lol

But the last game I played today was against a Zerg opponent. I HATE PvZ. Silver league, on this new Antiga Shipyard map apparently. I proceed to go a fast one-base colossus into expand, but he denied it for like 3 minutes with zerglings and roaches. By the time I got my expo down, he had an entire army of zergling/hydra/roach/corrupter/infestor. Geez, poor me had 4 colossus, 10 or so stalkers, 5 sentries and 2 zealots. He attacked and I tried to fend it off with proper force field placement and colo control. It worked, but I had 3 colossus with 5 stalkers remaining after this. He got his army up and attacked me with more roachling, and I had to gg since I didn't have any money to keep up the defense.

Overall, I had 1 legitimate win, 3 free wins, and 2 losses. Not a very standard laddering day (bad one in fact), but it'll have to do, though I actually played more Gold players than anything. The guy I played last actually told me that he was playing on his friend's account, and was actually Diamond league O_o. He told me after the game that *incoming brag* I was the best Protoss he's played so far in his friend's account. He also told me that I would've won if I expanded earlier. Oh well, guess it'll have to do.

Until next time. I will continue to pursue my goal to reach Pro level status. One day. One day...

*
youtube.com/BargilStarcraft
Plutonik
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada329 Posts
August 18 2011 06:52 GMT
#2
dont do onebase collosus expand
but atleast you won more than you lost, that is all that is important imo
HomicidaL
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States283 Posts
August 18 2011 06:59 GMT
#3
Sounds like not that bad to me, it could be worse. Three Days ago I played really well, high diamond zerg went 9-3 was playing masters. All day to play today basically so i was hoping for masters. i played alot and went 5-17, alot of games were so so close, like it could have been 15-7 if some of those game I made one slight adjustment or microed better. My micro is killing me. I also lost a handful of games to cheese. now I am like mid diamond at best playing plats and some high diamonds agian. But i just kept playing! in hopes one day to be master lol.

Gl hf
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
August 18 2011 07:00 GMT
#4
lol no tvp?
whenever i ladder i never get a toss lol
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
Bargil
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States141 Posts
August 18 2011 07:05 GMT
#5
I really got to work on my builds a little better lol I could have won all the games I played today. I even saw what I did wrong in-game before I did it, but that turned out really bad. I don't know if it's standard, but almost every game I play I start off with a 3 or 2 gate robo and get a fast observer to scout their base and then expand usually. I tend to do better when I have already expanded since macro-ing from there to me is a bit easier.

Also, I get completely lost when I see Hydras. I debate on whether or not to go Archons or Colossus. :\
youtube.com/BargilStarcraft
Plutonik
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada329 Posts
August 18 2011 07:18 GMT
#6
no its fine to play safe with a 2-3gate robo, once when you start playing more and learning new things then you will understand when to fast expand etc, based on what you scout
Bargil
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States141 Posts
August 18 2011 17:24 GMT
#7
I'm one of those Protoss players who make use of warp prism drop play and harass mineral lines, and even if that don't work too well I'll reuse it as part of my army. I haven't seen a lot of players around my level even use or build a warp prism at all. It's such a useful unit, and it sucks to see it not be put into play
youtube.com/BargilStarcraft
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 32m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko402
LamboSC2 159
ProTech118
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 42102
Calm 4348
Jaedong 1638
GuemChi 1372
EffOrt 989
Shuttle 898
Mini 816
Soma 773
Soulkey 517
ZerO 329
[ Show more ]
firebathero 324
Rush 323
Snow 267
BeSt 226
Zeus 142
Sharp 100
Pusan 86
Hyun 81
BRAT_OK 65
yabsab 61
ggaemo 58
Barracks 52
Killer 47
Sea.KH 44
sorry 43
Mong 42
hero 37
Aegong 36
ToSsGirL 25
Sacsri 20
Terrorterran 19
soO 19
Bale 18
scan(afreeca) 16
Shinee 12
JulyZerg 9
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
SilentControl 9
HiyA 6
Dota 2
singsing2401
qojqva2317
Gorgc1755
Dendi632
syndereN187
XcaliburYe129
Counter-Strike
fl0m4543
zeus3742
olofmeister702
markeloff59
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor58
Other Games
hiko1379
B2W.Neo959
crisheroes519
DeMusliM270
Hui .204
Mew2King67
oskar64
ArmadaUGS58
ZerO(Twitch)11
MindelVK8
Organizations
StarCraft 2
WardiTV619
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 28
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2382
League of Legends
• Jankos2163
Other Games
• WagamamaTV233
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 32m
Demi vs Mixu
Nicoract vs TBD
Babymarine vs MindelVK
ForJumy vs TBD
Shameless vs Percival
Replay Cast
9h 32m
Korean StarCraft League
1d 12h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 19h
WardiTV 2025
1d 21h
SC Evo League
1d 22h
BSL 21
2 days
Sziky vs OyAji
Gypsy vs eOnzErG
OSC
2 days
Solar vs Creator
ByuN vs Gerald
Percival vs Babymarine
Moja vs Krystianer
EnDerr vs ForJumy
sebesdes vs Nicoract
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV 2025
2 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
3 days
BSL 21
3 days
Bonyth vs StRyKeR
Tarson vs Dandy
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
StarCraft2.fi
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV 2025
4 days
StarCraft2.fi
5 days
PiGosaur Monday
5 days
StarCraft2.fi
6 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
WardiTV 2025
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-30
RSL Revival: Season 3
Light HT

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
Slon Tour Season 2
Acropolis #4 - TS3
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
Kuram Kup
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.