It would be kind of nice if the community as a whole would basically stop ninjaing seats. Most places I've gone to without assigned seating have a "You can't reserve seats" policy, but people are decent and reasonable and don't go moving around someone else's stuff. I mean, even from a common-sense point of view: once people start shuffling things around and taking seats, what is anyone supposed to do? Sit there for hours on end without going to the bathroom or eating? That's absolutely ridiculous. To me, the thing isn't really that big of a deal, but it's basically the equivalent of walking up to someone and giving them the bird. And then subsequently joking about it.

Have some common decency in general. Were it me, the idea of moving someone else's stuff is just absurd - the concept that having a "no saved seats" policy is irrelevant. It's just an unwritten way of being cordial to those around you.

Now, if you leave nothing behind indicating that seat is still your's, well, that's your fault.

Kashll

United States1117 Posts

August 02 2011 12:28 GMT

#222

On August 02 2011 17:26 [uci] Fizik wrote:

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Sorry, let me put it as simple as can be so you can understand.

one person having foldable chair = lots of people having foldable chairs

Lots of foldable chairs = blocked exit routes

blocked exit routes = against fire code

against fire code = shut down

Shut down = bad.

That's not simple at all, it requires extensive application of the transitive property, which some gay math or logic shit or something.

fer

Canada375 Posts

August 02 2011 12:56 GMT

#223

Thank you Xeris for your incredibly sincere and heartfelt apology.

Kerotan

England2109 Posts

August 02 2011 13:26 GMT

#224

I'm more angry at the idiots that posted such inflammatory material in the reddit thread, if I didn't know better, the reaction makes it sound like Xeris not only took both their seats, but when they came back he impaled them on a halberd.

asperger

Sweden1310 Posts

August 02 2011 13:40 GMT

#225

On August 02 2011 12:15 byanymeans wrote:
I love the difference in respect levels between this thread and the reddit thread.

It's because Reddit is user monitored with up-/downvotes, so the mob mentality can really propel this kind of bashing to the top. On the other hand people are probably more careful about how harsh words they use on TL, since you'd probably get banned if you started to hate too much.

I like both communities, although I think TL's moderation should be more relaxed, and Reddit's userbase should calm down in situations like this. Unfortunately it is kind of impossible to ask an entire userbase to change their ways in any greater extent.

Denzil

United Kingdom4193 Posts

August 02 2011 14:11 GMT

#226

People need to circle back to the actual post Xeris made what did he say?

He said that he admits he was wrong
He says he's sorry.
He's going to give the guys whos seats he stole compensation.

What more do you guys want? If you want to express your dislike for Xeris make a different thread and do it.

HuskyMUDKIPZ

228 Posts

August 02 2011 14:17 GMT

#227

Personally I don't feel that this apology was genuine. I am unsure why but that is the way I feel.
However I do think it is nice that Xeris is offering seats at NASL/the next MLG.

QuanticHawk

United States32045 Posts

August 02 2011 14:47 GMT

#228

Wait, so the reddit people are now douches for posting that and forcing you to apologize, something you wouldn't have done otherwise?? hahahahahahahah. What an incredibly douche move

Flaccid

8835 Posts

August 02 2011 14:49 GMT

#229

On August 02 2011 23:47 Hawk wrote:
Wait, so the reddit people are now douches for posting that and forcing you to apologize, something you wouldn't have done otherwise?? hahahahahahahah. What an incredibly douche move

Go easy man, acting like a douche is something that has to be earned. Through years of hard work.

LovE-

United States1963 Posts

August 02 2011 14:50 GMT

#230

On August 02 2011 23:17 HuskyMUDKIPZ wrote:
Personally I don't feel that this apology was genuine. I am unsure why but that is the way I feel.
However I do think it is nice that Xeris is offering seats at NASL/the next MLG.

Yeah same here. But the kid is getting free passes, so who cares.
Xeris seems to get himself in quite a few of these situations, eh? (Drama with what he says on the forums, etc.)
Remember, dude, you're known, so don't act like a douche anymore, at least in a public setting. ^^

Edit:

On August 02 2011 23:49 Flaccid wrote:

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Go easy man, acting like a douche is something that has to be earned. Through years of hard work.

Nimic

Norway1360 Posts

August 02 2011 15:06 GMT

#231

Am I the only one who thinks that this whole "here goes another witch-hunt" thing is starting to become more annoying than the actual "witch-hunts" that they are based on. Similar with the ESPORTS thing. The hysteria has started to run the other way, now. Every time someone tries to make a critical point about something, fifty people jump in with "OMG HE IS RUINING ESPORTS HA HA I AM IRONIC HA".

DharmaTurtle

United States283 Posts

August 02 2011 15:07 GMT

#232

I wish you would have had the courage to actually say what you thought about me to my face rather than wait until you got home to write something behind your computer screen, but that's ok.

Wow, sneaky. Your ego must make itself known even in the middle of an "apology", eh?

TheHova

United Kingdom2612 Posts

August 02 2011 15:16 GMT

#233

On August 02 2011 23:49 Flaccid wrote:

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Go easy man, acting like a douche is something that has to be earned. Through years of hard work.

It's okay, he was having a busy day and is important. It's just a 'misunderstanding'.

QuanticHawk

United States32045 Posts

August 02 2011 15:22 GMT

#234

On August 02 2011 23:49 Flaccid wrote:

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Go easy man, acting like a douche is something that has to be earned. Through years of hard work.

hahahahahahah

Canucklehead

Canada5074 Posts

August 02 2011 15:36 GMT

#235

Bottom line is whether seat saving was allowed or not freaking sundance didn't even ego trip and moved when someone told him to. The seat saving part is irrelevant to me because you just don't move someone's stuff off seats and then make a big scene when the people who left come to claim it back.

Sundance had the common decency to move and it's his freaking tournament, while xeris did not. If this was an isolated incident of xeris doing something like this, it wouldn't be a big deal, but his reputation for this goes far back.

youngminii

Australia7514 Posts

August 02 2011 15:38 GMT

#236

This thread is disgusting.

All I see are a bunch of elitists laughing at the reddit guys. It might not be a perfect community but neither is TL. Some of you guys really need to get off your fucking high horse and be thankful that there's such a strong Starcraft community in one of the most popular sites on the internet.

On topic however, I don't actually believe Xeris. That said, this is blown way out of proportion.

zeru

8156 Posts

August 02 2011 15:42 GMT

#237

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dblueguy

3 Posts

August 02 2011 15:51 GMT

#238

Seems like he's only sorry that Reddit blew this up and looked bad. This is one of the most insincere apologies I've ever read. So I thank Reddit for letting this be brought to everyone's attention and forcing this guy to own up to what he did.

Animzor

Sweden2154 Posts

August 02 2011 16:10 GMT

#239

"I won these seats too... through years of hard work."

Wow, what a fucking asshole.

Nokarot

United States1410 Posts

August 02 2011 16:24 GMT

#240

Oops. I made a stupid post earlier criticizing Xeris for not posting his apology on reddit, when he in fact did. Sorry, I'm kind of retarded.