• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:51
CEST 14:51
KST 21:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists13[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers11Maestros of the Game 2 announced32026 GSL Tour plans announced10Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid20
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail MaNa leaves Team Liquid Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued 2026 GSL Tour plans announced
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly) $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site Pros React To: Tulbo in Ro.16 Group A BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro16 Group B Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Reappraising The Situation T…
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2019 users

My experience with SC so far& ideas for the future

Blogs > whitefenix
Post a Reply
whitefenix
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden40 Posts
July 27 2011 20:02 GMT
#1
Okay, so!
This time I'm gonna write in two parts. The first part will be my experiences with SC2 so far, what I've learned, gained, etc. The second part will be my ideas for future games, hopes and dreams, and so on.
Feedback is appreciated for the second part!

Part 1

So. I bought the game pretty much as soon as it was released. I had played -very little- on the beta, a friend helped me get in. He and I met playing DotA in WC3, and have played together in different games, he was the one who urged me to go get SC2.

At first I didnt like the idea at all, I mean, at the time I was a casual player (and you know what that means.. World of Warcraft. Bigtime.) and had no experiences whatsoever with RTS's. But my friend was (and is) very convincing, so I ended up buying it. I had actually decided on zerg before I even started playing, as they are by far the coolest race (take THAT, terran and protoss players!), and even though I did play a little bit of random, I still always preferred zerg.

The main reason I stuck with it was actually Day[9] (queue angelic trumpets). At first I had very little desire to play (beyond the single campain which was awesome, play it if you haven't). Even though the game itself seemed weird and scary, I loved watching the dailies, especially funday monday and newbie tuesday.

I guess you can say I'm the sort of player who gets excited seeing other people play. After watching the daily for a few weeks, I decided I wanted to be that passionate about starcraft, and started playing 1v1 on the ladder.

I really didn't wanna play team games, because at the moment I was pretty deep in to HoN (which is basically the pretty form of DotA) and I was so. fucking. tired. of having retards in my team. I mean one of the things I really like about SC2 is that it's only my skill that matters, so there's no "luck" or "chance" involved.

So I started playing, and I was godawful and stuff.. but I kept at it! I kept playing and playing, and watching every zerg daily Day[9] posted. Gradually I started to get better and better at it. I went from bronze to gold in just a few weeks. It took me a bit longer to get into platinum, but thats where I'm at right now. I was a bit dissappointed that I didn't get placed into diamond on the season reset, but at least I'm ranked 1 on my ladder
...
that sounded way more egotistical that it should have. I apologize.

So currently I'm playing lots of 1v1, and also some 2v2 with a friend of mine (terran). We were ranked 1 diamond before the reset, but that's basically his earning, as he is WAY better than me.

Anyways. What have I gotten from SC2?

First and foremost - I've met the single most amazing person I've come in to contact with. We actually met through Day[9], she went to dreamhack as the same time as me, to watch Day[J] and thats how I came in to contact with her. The only negative part is that she lives kind of far away, so I've only seen her during dreamhacks. Working on getting her down here

Secondly - I've been able to accept the "nerd" lifestyle. This is completly thanks to Day[J]. In a daily he talked about how being a nerd is perfectly fine, as long as it is something that you want to do. I've always loved playing computer games but always had the devil on my shoulder whispering that I need to go to parties every weekend to be succesful, or that if I don't spend every single day with a bunch of friends I'm somehow worse off.

I've learned to be proud to be a gamer, and that's an important thing. I still spend some time with friends, but I have no shame in spending a saturday evening playing starcraft.

The last thing I want to mention - improvement.
I'm a guy that has pretty few ways to measure improvement. I've always gotten good grades without much effort. The only thing really that I could improve on was playing instruments, and even then its very hard to measure day-to-day improvement.

Starcraft is different. Here we have a physical way to measure improvement. How? First of all - your position in the ladder. The ladder does -not- mention skill. But if you go from platinum to diamond you can be pretty sure that you have gotten better.

There is an even easier way - replays. If you're like me, and are simply playing to get good at the game - you're gonna save replays. Mostly replays of you losing, so that you can learn from your losses. If you take a replay from a month back and compare it to a replay you saved yesterday - you're gonna see whether you have improved or not. For me - its a constant increase. I get better and better, maybe not very fast - but I'm getting there.

It's a pretty damn good feeling to be able to say: I actually got better at this. I practiced, I played, and I improved.

With that I'm gonna wrap up part 1, and move on to part 2: My ideas and thoughts for the future.

Part 2

I'm gonna do this matchup-specific, starting with my favorite matchup : ZvT

ZvT

There's two points I want to stress here. The first is against the "normal" terran bio-ball with tank support. Against this setup, I have been using ling/bling/infestor/ultra. It has been working pretty well for me, but I have a few really good terran practice partners, who all claim that mutalisks are ESSENTIAL for this matchup, so against a bioball I'm going to start experimenting with mutas much more than I have in the past. I've tried it, and I can't say I really like it: It's extremely hard to get any good harass, but I guess they are more for map control than anything, it also transitions into brood lords easier.

Secondly, mech play are getting way popular lately, and I need a good way to deal with it. I think the best way is to get roaches instead of banelings, if you see a hellion opener. Then, you get a few extra queens and some spores, as banshees are likely coming. When you are sure to survive, tech to infestors and mutalisks. I get a few mutas to deal with drops/banshees, and build up a roach/infestor army with neural parasite. When the first attack (usually) hits, you NP the thors and kill tanks&hellions with roaches. If you survive (lol), expand like crazy and tech to brood lords, which are AWESOME against mech. I haven't used BroodLords much, but I guess this is as good time as any

ZvP

Lately I've been trying Destiny's ZvP and having HUGE success. This build is basically ling/infestor, teching to ultras pretty damn quick. You start with an 11 pool 18hatch, and drone up to 40-44 (2 base saturation) and then get all 4 gases at once (spanishiwa style!). You get infestors and burrow asap, and push with 5-6 infestors and rest lings. You burrow the infestors and use all their energy on infested terrans, then run in the lings. 90% of the time you snipe the expansion nexus, and even if you dont you usually kill the army. You double-expand behind it, and tech to hive. If the protoss is still alive, you tech to ultras for normal coloss death balls, (heh, balls) or get roaches for high templar/archon armies, while teching to brood lords.
Protip: If the protoss pushes before you do- fungal growth is INSANELY good. If he pushes before you even have infestors (gasp!) throw 3-4 spines up, and its pretty easy to hold with lings. Depends on map of course, but usually it just depends on scouting. If he does some insane cheese (proxy 2 gate for example), just build lings off your onebase 11pool, and you should hold no problem, just throw down a queen and a spine or two.

ZvZ

This is my worst matchup by far. At the moment I'm using a 14 pool into roach. Against ling/baneling I have a pretty good timing push, but against counter-roach I tech to infestors and later ultras. Which feels ugly. I don't like it, as it all comes down pure macro/micro, more than strategy. It's not too bad, but I'm still trying to find a good way to play ZvZ. An idea i had is to get burrow, and run your infestors around and snipe expansions with infested terrans, I got owned by it so it should be pretty good
Brood lords feels unreliable since they are easily countered (corruptors, which then turns in to a corruptor war), so I prefer ultras. They are pretty damn good vs roaches (coupled with fungals), which is 95% of all ZvZ.

So the rundown: I'm gonna use more muta vs terran, and brood lords vs mech terrans. I'm gonna use a ling+infestor (later ultra/roach) against protoss, and experiment with infestors in zvz. Hopefully I'll get promoted to diamond soon

Thanks for reading!
Song of the post: Under Cover Of Darkness - The Strokes


Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
11:00
Group B
WardiTV935
TKL 255
Rex106
3DClanTV 67
Liquipedia
Escore
10:00
Week 3
escodisco1672
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 255
Rex 106
trigger 51
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaedong 879
Shuttle 626
Mini 445
BeSt 339
EffOrt 253
actioN 233
Soma 216
Snow 215
Hyuk 136
Hyun 99
[ Show more ]
Backho 90
ToSsGirL 89
NaDa 69
hero 66
Rush 61
[sc1f]eonzerg 55
Soulkey 53
Sea.KH 49
Pusan 48
sorry 47
Mind 40
JYJ 36
scan(afreeca) 35
Aegong 27
Icarus 26
JulyZerg 26
Hm[arnc] 25
Sharp 22
Sexy 21
Terrorterran 18
Bale 15
zelot 8
eros_byul 0
Britney 0
Dota 2
ODPixel479
League of Legends
Reynor75
Counter-Strike
zeus844
edward144
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King81
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr35
Other Games
singsing2436
B2W.Neo1290
hiko480
crisheroes294
DeMusliM270
Lowko247
Sick120
QueenE22
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV333
Counter-Strike
PGL296
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 21
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV149
League of Legends
• Jankos1956
• TFBlade1331
Upcoming Events
OSC
2h 10m
Big Brain Bouts
3h 10m
MaNa vs goblin
Scarlett vs Spirit
Serral vs herO
Korean StarCraft League
14h 10m
CranKy Ducklings
21h 10m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
22h 10m
IPSL
1d 3h
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
1d 6h
UltrA vs KwarK
Gosudark vs cavapoo
dxtr13 vs HBO
Doodle vs Razz
Patches Events
1d 9h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 11h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 21h
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 22h
Ladder Legends
2 days
BSL
2 days
StRyKeR vs rasowy
Artosis vs Aether
JDConan vs OyAji
Hawk vs izu
IPSL
2 days
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-15
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Escore Tournament S2: W3
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.