EPTOn July 22 2011 22:17 Jiddra wrote:
OK
The owner firing himself? Seems kind of hard.
OK
The owner firing himself? Seems kind of hard.
I was completely wrong. I got confused with AG's position in the EG organization.
My Thoughts on EG/Puma - Page 9
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EnderCraft
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I was completely wrong. I got confused with AG's position in the EG organization. | ||
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TheButtonmen
Canada1401 Posts
On July 22 2011 22:19 LegionUK wrote: Everything Slasher has posted in this thread has proven TLO's point a 1000 times over. Well done TLO, so much respect for you. Slasher never posted in this thread. Zlasher != Slasher. God-dammit people, read the thread before hitting reply if you want to attack someone (you think) is in it? | ||
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StarStruck
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lol Button same time... and you have 392 posts and I have 3992. lmao. | ||
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TBO
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Jiddra
Sweden2685 Posts
On July 22 2011 22:20 EnderCraft wrote: I was completely wrong. I got confused with AG's position in the EG organization. Easy mistake, he is lurking in the shadows most of the time  | ||
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TheButtonmen
Canada1401 Posts
On July 22 2011 22:20 StarStruck wrote: Zlasher is not the same as Slasher. lol Button same time... and you have 392 posts and I have 3992. lmao. And yet I sound more like the bitter old man  | ||
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jenzebubble
United States183 Posts
On July 22 2011 22:19 LegionUK wrote: Everything Slasher has posted in this thread has proven TLO's point a 1000 times over. Well done TLO, so much respect for you. So that there is no confusion: Slasher: Works for MLG, pretty decent guy. Has NOT posted in this thread. Zlasher: Sycophant, hanger-on. Has posted in this thread. | ||
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StarStruck
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On July 22 2011 22:16 turdburgler wrote: i dont even think most people are mad about EG went about 'securing' puma. its the retarded PR machine they try to run afterwards which involves taking a bit of a dump on a guy who works hard for the community for no reward and using really badly thoughtout arguments to defend themselves. all they had to say was we talked to puma and we agreed that he would be the one to break the news to his coaches, that decision was of debatable merit but we ran with it. and then just stop talking, stop playing weird games with people. Exactly. When the news came I was conflicted about this, I thought that everyone was to blame (but blame is too strong of a word). But now that I see how they handled that and how they treated Milkis, I just don't like EG anymore. | ||
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ThatGuy89
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Abdool
United States53 Posts
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AdamBanks
Canada996 Posts
Sure this is a business, but its a fan driven business and pissing off the fans is not "good for esports" be it international or korean. Now eg has a few players I once respected but they continue to undermine themselves and this has turned me from the brand. From inc/nasl to idra's continued behavior on live streams it seems to be a very unprofessional or at least immature team. | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
" No one is saying there was anything illegal or against the rules that EG did. But no one can deny it was dirty business. " And then they try and defend themselves and attack other people. | ||
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ondik
Czech Republic2908 Posts
On July 22 2011 22:25 ThatGuy89 wrote: all respect for tlo just went out the window im afraid you mean EG fans' respect? I don't think he cares. | ||
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maahes`ra
United States255 Posts
On July 22 2011 22:22 jenzebubble wrote: So that there is no confusion: Slasher: Works for MLG, pretty decent guy. Has NOT posted in this thread. Zlasher: Sycophant, hanger-on. Has posted in this thread. Thank you for making me look up 'sycophant' and learning its meaning. I shall apply it liberally for the rest of my life. These events are souring my appreciation for Starcraft, and they have been for quite some time. I began playing (SC2) because it was an honest endeavor I had to work at. The drama has ruined my enjoyment of the scene since I stopped playing the game. The last thing I really enjoy is Day[9] in his various forms, especially his old podcasts~. :[ | ||
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TheButtonmen
Canada1401 Posts
On July 22 2011 22:29 ComaDose wrote: Something people have said that i like is: " No one is saying there was anything illegal or against the rules that EG did. But no one can deny it wasn't dirty business. " Dirty business? You mean respecting Pumas wishs and not contacting the TSL coach? As I said in another thread; + Show Spoiler + On July 22 2011 15:03 Sworn wrote: Ya I agree for the most part that what EG did was absolutely HORRIBLE! Imagine if when Idra was staying in korea if one of the teams just came out of nowhere asked him to play for them and didn't even talk to EG. EG would have been furious losing their star player and it's the same for TSL. I really wish EG would issue an apology at least. 1. EG wants a top level Korean player. 2. Top level Koreans come over to NASL finals. 3. EG hands out cards seeing if anyone is interested. 4. Puma is interested and talks to EG staff, when they find out he is open to the idea of working for them, has no contract and no salary they need to compete with they lay out what they are prepared to offer, Puma is interested but he wants to be the one to talk to his coach rather then EG, EG agrees. 5. Puma talks to his coach, coach isn't impressed and thinks that Puma and EG have gone and signed behind his back. (Please note that EG and Puma haven't signed or agreed to anything yet.) 6. Coach feels disrespected and starts this whole thing with his posts. 7. The standard drama fueled shitfest occurs. 8. EG finds out about all of this. 9. Coach clarifies what he meant / what happened as mis-communications start to get cleared up (hell he even throws Puma a goodbye party) 10. EG speaks out on Lo3, saying they didn't do anything wrong and they followed their potential new players wishs. (Again note that EG and Puma still haven't signed anything still.) 11. Dramallamas continue to frolic. 12. EG opens mouth and inserts foot re: what team liquid is for (while I agree partially with them this sure as hell wasn't the time). 13. Even more shit hits the fan as TL defends one of their own. 14. I eat an orange. 15. I write this post. So where exactly in this chain of events do you think EG crossed the line and needs to apologize? This was all basically EG doing their best to recruit some new blood, Puma doing his best to find the best option available to him, TSL not being able to compete due to their lack of cash flow and a tragic misunderstanding between Puma and Coach Lee which started an epic drawn out shitfest. Why exactly does there need to be a good / bad guy here? Edit: Dammit guys I can't believe I'm about to say this with a straight face but; + Show Spoiler + On July 22 2011 22:31 maahes`ra wrote: Thank you for making me look up 'sycophant' and learning its meaning. I shall apply it liberally for the rest of my life. These events are souring my appreciation for Starcraft, and they have been for quite some time. I began playing (SC2) because it was an honest endeavor I had to work at. The drama has ruined my enjoyment of the scene since I stopped playing the game. The last thing I really enjoy is Day[9] in his various forms, especially his old podcasts~. :[ This obession with drama is hurting E-sports, would it kill us to instead of jumping to conclusions and throwing ragefits to just wait until both sides of the story are out and the involved parties can clear up any miscommunications that may have occured? | ||
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Enchanted
United States1609 Posts
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ThatGuy89
United Kingdom1968 Posts
On July 22 2011 22:29 ondik wrote: you mean EG fans' respect? I don't think he cares. i was a fan of tlo just as much as i was a fan of EG - probably more in fact. But posting something like this has no use at all. Were people universally asking for TLOs opinion personally? i dont think so. With all do respect his opinion doesnt mean jack - its just a chance for all his fans to post here, and post things that they've probbaly already posted a dozen times in other threads. It just turns into a chance for everyone to insult and slander EG just beacuse someone from TL started it. This wouldnt be allowed in any other situation, but due to the way TL works sometimes, it is | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On July 22 2011 22:32 TheButtonmen wrote: Why exactly does there need to be a good / bad guy here? Maybe EG is the hero TeamLiquid deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we’ll hunt him because he can take it. Because he’s not our hero, he is a silent guardian, a watchful protector… a dark knight | ||
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lolsixtynine
United States600 Posts
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