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My Thoughts on EG/Puma

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Liquid`TLO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany767 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 11:17:21
July 22 2011 11:14 GMT
#1
After reading up on all the drama about Puma, EG definitely lived up to the adjective in their name, the second part, not so much.

Every time something like this happens it makes me happy that I am in Liquid. After what has happened, there is no way I could ever join a team that pulls off stuff like EG. No matter how
much they would offer.

"I don't want to get on a high horse" but if you think a playxp article hurts your international brand, then it is your own job to present your side of the story, not the one of a volunteer translator.
The fact is, EG took more than 18 hours for a statement and they want people to just ignore a korean article - sorry but thats a naive and utopian view of how the world works.

The alternative to Milkis translation would have been people posting inaccurate google translations which could have presented statements wrongly and as such bear a way higher risk to unfairly harm both TSL and EG.

And don't even try to argue you didn't attack Milkis about this on Weapon of Choice. There is this wonderful thing called "context" and saying "I don't want to sound accusatory" does not
rescue you. In addition to that, Milkis is being called out for bias as he works for TL. But whenever a controversial topic comes up, EG representatives go on shows backed by their
sponsors/managers.

The news went out before you wanted it and guess what it's because you didn't talk to TSL. Even though they had weeks after NASL to do so.
If you act sly at least be prepared that others won't be happy about it and have damage control ready.

EG keeps acting morally questionably, without really caring about consequences towards third parties. Yet as soon as something doesnt fit into their plans they call people out for being
unprofessional.

If they want to play the bad boys, they should at least be able to deal with the criticism, however EG seems to demand high morale standard from everyone but themselves.

****
Team Liquidalea iacta est
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
July 22 2011 11:17 GMT
#2
Thank you TLO these are pretty much my thoughts on the situation but summed up way more nicely, its about time some high ranked members of the community called them out.
Yew
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States940 Posts
July 22 2011 11:17 GMT
#3
I completely agree. They have a history of doing this kind of thing. Poaching people from coL and now this. Really cutthroat organization.
awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 11:18:27
July 22 2011 11:18 GMT
#4
Very well said. I'm disappointed EG resorts to these methods to "steal" players
edc
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States666 Posts
July 22 2011 11:18 GMT
#5
This shows why TL is the best team in the world. Thanks for writing this, TLO!
“There are two kinds of people in this world, those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.” - Clint Eastwood
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
July 22 2011 11:19 GMT
#6
Good write-up and I respect your opinion, but I totally disagree with your assessment TLO. We will have to just disagree on this one. Still love ya though!
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
Lacke
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden46 Posts
July 22 2011 11:21 GMT
#7
I love this. "Every time something like this happens it makes me happy that I am in Liquid. After what has happened, there is no way I could ever join a team that pulls off stuff like EG. No matter how
much they would offer."

Makes me happy to know my favourite player cares about stuff like this. ^_^
Quote/Unquote
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
July 22 2011 11:22 GMT
#8
Always glad to see the pros taking the time to interact with the community, disagree with you here but most importantly of all good luck at the WCG!
edc
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States666 Posts
July 22 2011 11:24 GMT
#9
On July 22 2011 20:22 TheButtonmen wrote:
Always glad to see the pros taking the time to interact with the community, disagree with you here but most importantly of all good luck at the WCG!

What do you disagree with the OP? I'm just curious and would like to know.
“There are two kinds of people in this world, those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.” - Clint Eastwood
Siphyo
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands121 Posts
July 22 2011 11:26 GMT
#10
Let's wait for Incontrol to come here to put on a sad face .

Naive and internet just don't go together really well.
HSY - KMK - Hyomin - Yoona - Sojin | NesTea - DRG - Puzzle - Bomber - NANIWA
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
July 22 2011 11:26 GMT
#11
Thank you. I missed the show yesterday with Milkis and Alex, but reading on how overbearing Alex was made it terrrible.
Yargh
Pessle
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom37 Posts
July 22 2011 11:27 GMT
#12
TLO you hero :D
hyptonic
Profile Joined June 2011
2155 Posts
July 22 2011 11:27 GMT
#13
Must say I agree with you, EG continues to down their rep.
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
July 22 2011 11:29 GMT
#14
On July 22 2011 20:24 edc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 20:22 TheButtonmen wrote:
Always glad to see the pros taking the time to interact with the community, disagree with you here but most importantly of all good luck at the WCG!

What do you disagree with the OP? I'm just curious and would like to know.


My thoughts can be found here, if you have any other questions shoot me a PM I don't really want to bring my arguments about this spilling over into TLO's blog.
Sporadic44
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States533 Posts
July 22 2011 11:29 GMT
#15
TLO telling it like it is. Much respect.
"Opportunities multiply as they are seized."
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 22 2011 11:29 GMT
#16
On July 22 2011 20:24 edc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 20:22 TheButtonmen wrote:
Always glad to see the pros taking the time to interact with the community, disagree with you here but most importantly of all good luck at the WCG!

What do you disagree with the OP? I'm just curious and would like to know.


He doesn't really give an opinion on EG buying puma and instead just rants about what happened afterwards.

Zinnwaldite
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1567 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 11:43:14
July 22 2011 11:29 GMT
#17
Tired messup.. Sowwy.

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TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
July 22 2011 11:33 GMT
#18
On July 22 2011 20:29 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 20:24 edc wrote:
On July 22 2011 20:22 TheButtonmen wrote:
Always glad to see the pros taking the time to interact with the community, disagree with you here but most importantly of all good luck at the WCG!

What do you disagree with the OP? I'm just curious and would like to know.


He doesn't really give an opinion on EG buying puma and instead just rants about what happened afterwards.



Again I made myself clear here if you want to argue I'll be glad to answer PMs but I really don't want to do it here okay?
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
July 22 2011 11:33 GMT
#19
On July 22 2011 20:29 Sebzou wrote:
So EG's main mistake was giving Puma some control of the situation? By doing this they offended Coach Lee?

If Lee is so close to the members of his team, wouldn't he perfer hearing things directly from his guys than having some team call him saying they want his player?

I understand why Puma wanted to be the one to tell Lee about his plans to move to another team. The poor guy wanted to do things in the way i atleast feel was the nicest way to go about it, and as a result he is stuck in the middle of a shitstorm like this.

The kid deserves far better than this.


not sure if it was a mistake but why did you post this same text on the Puma Topic (where it is relevant) and also here on this blog (where it is not relevant, which you might see yourself you had read the text)
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
July 22 2011 11:36 GMT
#20
Lol, well that was pretty clear and concise. :D

Have to agree the whole thing seems pretty underhand.
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