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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
July 07 2011 19:42 GMT
#21
are you the same massivez from wow? who did 3s w/ brogo & snutz
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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
July 07 2011 19:42 GMT
#22
Funny enough my roomate last year (my first year), was also a mad stoner (although we each had our own rooms so I never smelled it much, and I'm a non-smoker), he was also a really nice dude, so at least wait till you meet him.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25977 Posts
July 07 2011 19:42 GMT
#23
I think you need a little bit of a reality check. You are extremely outgoing? You can become a progamer? You just said most of your time is spent with your family and you are Platinum.

I think you should honestly try having an open mind and embrace living with someone who will show you another side of life.
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Shifft
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1085 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-07 19:49:46
July 07 2011 19:44 GMT
#24
Let me lay out how much time college will take you.

Arts program:
15hrs/week classes, maybe 5hrs/week other work.

Science program:
~20hrs/week classes, about 8-10hrs/week other work.

And that's if you do every bit of reading or problem sets etc and attend every class, which just about no one actually does.

You'll have time to play SC2, don't worry about it.

Also why are you sure you could be a pro in a year if you're in platinum right now? I play casually maybe an hour or two every couple days and I'm in masters, I'm also pretty much certain that there's no way I would be good enough to be a pro in any reasonable timeframe. To be a pro a year from now you'll have to be better than most Koreans, which means not only do you have to close the already huge skill gap between you, but you'll have to do so at such a pace that you improve faster than these already incredibly talented players who are practicing 10hrs+ per day. I'd try to be a bit more realistic if I were you.
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Riku
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1064 Posts
July 07 2011 19:45 GMT
#25
Go to college, it isn't just about the social scene, it's about improving the quality of the rest of your life.

As for your roommate, set down some rules at the start of the year in writing. Make one copy for safe keeping and post one copy in the room. If he starts breaking them go to the Dean of Students with the extra copy and a write-up of how he broke the rules you two set. You'll get a room transfer no problem (this happened for me, but I was the party person constantly being lockrd out and passive-aggressively attacked by my more conservative roommate).

However, I think you'll find college is not like high school and that your social life will flourish and you'll make tons of friends, try your first drink, and get your roomie to watch sc2 games with you. Just give him, college and yourself a chance
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spiz
Profile Joined June 2010
United States32 Posts
July 07 2011 19:46 GMT
#26
I had more time to game going to a top big10 school than I ever did before... If you can't game while going to school, you have a lot of time management issues on your hand and it wouldn't really matter what you do.

If you decide to game instead of go to school, you'll end up regretting it 5-10 years down the road and we'll be in tough spot to change it.

You also have college all wrong... It's like you're only idea of it has come from an american pie movie. You should really go see what it's like for a year or two. College is 100% what you make of it.
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cody1024d
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
107 Posts
July 07 2011 19:48 GMT
#27
I don't want to seem to be beating a dead horse, but seriously, go to college.

In the end, the experiences you have in college will be the best of your life. However, it will be a negative experience if you go in extremely pessimistic (as you seem to be). Perhaps use college as a way to break out of your shell, and put yourself in new, and even awkward situations, nothing terrible will come of it, and who knows, you may even have some fun.

Take it from me, I'm a senior in college and went into it scared. I was sheltered, and pretty much a huge video game nerd. I had the same pipe dreams of being "pro". It wasn't until college that I realized you could have fun outside of a game, and that the real world is in fact pretty fucking awesome. So, as Riku suggested, talk to people, have a drink, and most of all, just enjoy yourself.
No point in half-assing it.
Ponyo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1231 Posts
July 07 2011 19:48 GMT
#28
Well it has all been mostly said, but you can literally just sit in your dorm, do well in school and have quite a bit sc2 time. Its a little selfish of you to not consider your parent's dreams to not even consider studying a bit.

From my personal life: I have a small delusion that I can go pro at sc2. Like yea that possibility is always there, what won't always be there is the support from my family/parents, so I'm hitting the books and making sure I learn the material and receive sufficient grades, and the rest of my time goes to sc2. Life is about balance no?
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Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
July 07 2011 19:49 GMT
#29
I'm at an extremely hard/prestigious college in the UK, with a reputation for having an unreasonable workload including Saturday lectures, and even doing all the work I should be plus revision I still had a few hours a day for SC playing and VODS. I used the time that other people would go out drinking or on social events/sports/clubs with. The college even has a policy against cooking for yourself or part-time jobs even during vacations.

Your college workload will be much less than mine so you will have correspondingly more time.
Battleaxe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States843 Posts
July 07 2011 19:49 GMT
#30
I admire your sentiments, but you will have much more time then you realize in college. College is all about time management, if you can work effectively enough, you'll have plenty of free time for SC2, especially if your not interested in being social outside of the internets (sorry if that's the wrong impression).
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An old roomate and I live fairly close to one another, I asked him if he wanted to go to concert a few weeks ago, his response, "I donno man I'm busy as hell between work and all my other shit". I told him the concert wasn't until Sept, well into the semester; his response, "Oh then good chance I'm in, I should have plenty of free time". If I had to guess, it would appear you may not have held a full-time job yet, but that is much worse then any "lack of time" you'll have in college. (This of course speaks only to undergrad, grad school is a completely different animal)


My freshman year had me paired up with someone who was mostly the complete opposite, myself being more akin to yourself and he being more similar to your soon-to-be roomate. As long as he respects the choices you make and you respect the choices he makes, you shouldn't have much of a problem.

Maybe try compromising with them by asking them to let you pursue gaming for a year if you think that's all you would need in order to get results that would allow your parents to be ok with you not attending college, and if you aren't successful then accept their wishes and go. In the grand scheme of things, going to college a year later is not going to ruin your life, and it may actually help you in the long run.

With all that said, if you really don't want to go to college, you may want to sit down and try to have a discussion with your parents as to why. Honestly, saying you don't want to go to school to attempt to become a progamer sounds like a terrible argument, but I'm not going to judge you on your aspirations, if you think you can do it more power to you. If this is the case, you need to approach the discussion not from the angle of gaming. Most parents won't be receptive to this kind of reasoning. I'll leave you to decide the way you want to approach it, but college is certainly not for everyone, and although the US perpetrates the belief that you must go to college to be successful or survive in the real world, this isn't the case.

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If your parents are going to be paying for your education, I would take it. If for nothing else, just for the experience and learning you will do as a college student in general can be invaluable. On the other hand, if you'll be taking out loans and paying them back yourself, then as an adult (assuming your over 18) it's your decision as to whether or not you should be undertaking debt for something you're really not interested in doing in the first place. Be aware though, taking the angle of my loans, my decision can also result in parents feeling like it's then their decision to kick you out of their house. I've seen this happen to more then a few people who don't follow their parents wishes once they're of age
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susySquark
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1692 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-07 19:50:38
July 07 2011 19:50 GMT
#31
I think it was on State of the Game where Tyler said it best - going pro isn't for everyone. The best way to tell is to look at where you stand while gaming only in your free time. So go to school, and game on the side. Ignore your social life, for the sake of SC2 for a little bit. If you can hit North American Grandmasters gaming part time (~20-30 hours a week), you can probably afford to devote more time (40+ hours, a full time jobs worth) to it and truly "go pro." If you're only platinum, and you say you've been working hard, pro-gaming probably isn't for you.

Go to school man, take some classes, find what you like. There are ways to contribute to esports that dont involve playing - take journalism classes, broadcasting, business, whatever, and see what you like best.
MASSivezTV
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States289 Posts
July 07 2011 19:50 GMT
#32
On July 08 2011 04:42 Antoine wrote:
are you the same massivez from wow? who did 3s w/ brogo & snutz

I am not lol
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
July 07 2011 19:50 GMT
#33
Don't want to crush your spirits or anything, but I think trying to make a professional career out of gaming (let's say it's SC2 for now) when you're at levels below thousands of others who play it semi-casually is a bad idea.

Just get over that hump, stay open-minded to new ideas/career paths, meet new friends, and play games too - and you'll have a good time in college.
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RedJustice
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1004 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-07 19:54:36
July 07 2011 19:50 GMT
#34
This blog made me lol.

I think you have a very skewed view of what college is, and of yourself. Some time experiencing the real world would be excellent for you. Your parents are doing you a favor-- go 'suffer' through college and become a better person.

You will have plenty of time for gaming.
You will hopefully develop some useful life skills.
You will hopefully develop some useful job skills.
You will learn to get along with other people, and/or negotiate getting away from other people.
You will hopefully develop a more accurate sense of self.

(edit) P.S. If you actually have the skill and dedication to become a progamer, going to college is certainly not going to prevent that. If you don't going to college will hopefully remove these illusions from you.
MASSivezTV
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States289 Posts
July 07 2011 19:52 GMT
#35
On July 08 2011 04:42 Chill wrote:
I think you need a little bit of a reality check. You are extremely outgoing? You can become a progamer? You just said most of your time is spent with your family and you are Platinum.

I think you should honestly try having an open mind and embrace living with someone who will show you another side of life.


Im outgoing with the people I am comfortable around, like in high school i had no problem at all because i was with those people for around 13 years of my life.

As far as me being able to become a pro gamer, yes. If you know me you would know that I have achieved greatly in the things I do in life when I put a lot of time into it. I do believe that I could apply the same mentality and skill into starcraft.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-07 19:55:32
July 07 2011 19:53 GMT
#36
You'll be fine in college. everyone's nervous, but they usually have cheesy frosh-type events where you can find people. Just walking around and talking to randos, I can say there was a lot of variety. Even with that, later in the year came loads of opportunities to join clubs and meet people. If your roommate is like you said, definitely try to get a new one. I just hope your RAs aren't as bad as mine. As for the gaming, you can easily play a lot in university. As long as you're smart about the time you spend, it'll be fairly easy. I picked up BW around then and got to D+ on my spare time as well as playing lots of WC3, Civ3, AoE1, etc...and still had time to go to a music club and hang out with lots of people.


But yeah. To be terse, just try to experience as many things as you can in college.
MiraKul
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Malaysia498 Posts
July 07 2011 19:55 GMT
#37
lol. going to college ay. Trust me, u will love college life!
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FreshNoThyme
Profile Joined March 2008
United States356 Posts
July 07 2011 19:56 GMT
#38
Your roommate is probably a cool guy. Don't dismiss him for such minor thinks as him drinking alcohol or smoking. By so casually dismissing people who have different interests than you, you REALLY limit your chances to have some AMAZING experiences.

Also, you'll have SO MUCH spare time. Last year was my junior year. I worked 25-30 hours a week, took 18 credit hours per semester, and still have more free time than at any other point in my life.

You'll be bored to tears if you go into it expecting school to take up all your time.
Smoru
Profile Joined September 2010
United States83 Posts
July 07 2011 20:11 GMT
#39
having shitty roommates comes with being in college.

My first roommate had rather extreme anger issues. I learned to love the CS computer lab that year...
My second roommate got trashed quite often and would fight with his girlfriend in the room all the time.
3rd year I finally got to live off campus, and am living in an apartment with friends, mostly fellow comp sci majors.

I've had tons of time to play video games. My grades arent amazing, and they probably could be if I studied my ass off instead of gaming it off, but you certainly will have the time to play sc2 and have a social life, (and study )
Win Together, Die Alone
TheGlassface
Profile Joined November 2010
United States612 Posts
July 07 2011 20:14 GMT
#40
Wow...just from the post you have that jaded view of college that people who are not very well to do socially seem to get from...movies? Tales? The internet?

Where exactly did you decide college is all sex/drinking?
Because if you're that inept (as you seem to claim) then believe me...those will not be concerns with you.

Also, considering how e-sports isn't a guarantee. I would highly suggest you not just shove college under the belt and act like your only interest should be gaming at a not even finished game (Two expansions and greedy corporate policies from Kotick could easily drive that game into the ground)

I'm sorry but you sound insanely naive.
I took 6 years after high school and traveled the country, partied, attempted to be a full time writer and then one day it clicked in my head how badly I wanted to get back into college. I spent my time between then learning from Khan, reading textbooks, and MIT courses online.

If you're seriously considering in the mindset college = "hell" (lol, try the military champ)
then you need some priority checks
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