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Ghin
United States2391 Posts
On June 30 2011 19:35 SaRrAceN wrote: Who should I have to justify my promiscuity to ? You ? A fellow man ? What arrogance is this. This is an idiotic argument because you're saying that who someone is affects the truth of their words. What is said should be true regardless of who says it. | ||
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SarR
476 Posts
On June 30 2011 20:43 Ghin wrote: This is an idiotic argument because you're saying that who someone is affects the truth of their words. What is said should be true regardless of who says it. Your statement shows a glaring lack of understanding. 'Promiscuous sex is wrong' is not a truth, it is a point of view therefore subjective which means who the 'someone' is carries much weight. If you're going to call any submission on this little debate 'idiotic' then I suggest you bring a level of intellect that doesnt prove you to be of the same caliber. | ||
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Ghin
United States2391 Posts
On June 30 2011 21:22 SaRrAceN wrote: Your statement shows a glaring lack of understanding. 'Promiscuous sex is wrong' is not a truth, it is a point of view therefore subjective which means who the 'someone' is carries much weight. If you're going to call any submission on this little debate 'idiotic' then I suggest you bring a level of intellect that doesnt prove you to be of the same caliber. I said that you wrote something an idiot would. Nothing you said in reply changes that, addresses it, or even shows a basic understanding of my principles. Who you are has nothing to do with how true something is. Anyone can have an opinion and who they are has no effect on whether it is a good opinion or if the words are true. A king can be wrong and even an idiot can be right. I can break down every sentence you wrote for you and show you the failures in logic if you like. | ||
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SarR
476 Posts
On June 30 2011 21:38 Ghin wrote: Who you are has nothing to do with how true something Oh for f**k's sake....What truth are you talking about here ? Re-read what I posted and try to respond more intelligently. There are no truths here only point of views/perspectives/perceptions. You seem far too dense to be capable of any intelligent discussion or even basic understanding. This is especially apparent when you have to resort to crude attacks like calling others(or implying others are) idiots to cover up your own intellectual inadequacies. On June 30 2011 21:38 Ghin wrote: ...how true something is.... This further distinguishes your lack of intellectual acumen. Something is either true or false. There is no 'how true On June 30 2011 21:38 Ghin wrote: Anyone can have an opinion and who they are has no effect on whether it is a good opinion or if the words are true.' Lump this in and we have contradicting ideas. What the hell are you talking about here ? Facts are seperate from opinions, since you're so fond of using the word 'true' we can assume that you intend to deal with the pertainant elements of the discussion as facts yet you now speak of opinions. Opinions and facts for the most part are mutually exclusive, its either one or the other. Your thoughts are like wild vines growing absent any sensible direction. On June 30 2011 21:38 Ghin wrote: I can break down every sentence you wrote for you and show you the failures in logic if you like. ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL Please...lol | ||
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ZeaL.
United States5955 Posts
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SarR
476 Posts
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EsX_Raptor
United States2801 Posts
After I tell her no, she will most likely ask the same thing to another guy. | ||
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dakalro
Romania525 Posts
On June 30 2011 22:10 ZeaL. wrote: No, not just cause I'm in a long term relationship right now but anyone who's that aggressive is probably going to lead me to a dark alley where her real boyfriends are. They'll proceed beat the shit out of me and take my wallet and my kidneys. What medieval town do you live in? It's not uncommon to meet someone in a club and end up in bed with her for the night. It sometimes happens even to me who's still petrified (literally) whenever I want to try to pick up a girl. I need a song, alcohol (for myself) and luck, I never had the balls to pick up someone in a bar, without the dance pretext. Not being made of bricks on the floor probably helps  ).Quality condoms are a must, no matter what she says about contraceptives. Morning after pills when she realizes she forgot her pill or the shitty condom broke are not good for your stress levels or her physical health (having friends asking you for a loan because they were too cheap the night before is priceless). As long as she has a good time there nothing wrong, is there? And are you really that scared that countless men fucked her brains out before? Why? Any reason other than the age old "do you know how many dicks you're kissing now?" Every woman I've tried a long term relationship turned out to be a bitch. I'd rather have some fun with the ones that are at least honest about what they want. | ||
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
climb every mountain, search high and low Follow every byway, every path you know. Climb every mountain, ford every stream, Follow every rainbow, 'til you find your dream! Sound of fucking music up in her' yo! | ||
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ZeaL.
United States5955 Posts
On June 30 2011 22:37 dakalro wrote: What medieval town do you live in? It's not uncommon to meet someone in a club and end up in bed with her for the night. It sometimes happens even to me who's still petrified (literally) whenever I want to try to pick up a girl. I need a song, alcohol (for myself) and luck, I never had the balls to pick up someone in a bar, without the dance pretext. Not being made of bricks on the floor probably helps ).Quality condoms are a must, no matter what she says about contraceptives. Morning after pills when she realizes she forgot her pill or the shitty condom broke are not good for your stress levels or her physical health (having friends asking you for a loan because they were too cheap the night before is priceless). As long as she has a good time there nothing wrong, is there? And are you really that scared that countless men fucked her brains out before? Why? Any reason other than the age old "do you know how many dicks you're kissing now?" Every woman I've tried a long term relationship turned out to be a bitch. I'd rather have some fun with the ones that are at least honest about what they want. If I'm in a library just talking to a chick and she randomly grabs my nuts I don't think that's normal. If it was some drunk girl in a club that would make more sense, and in that situation I would say why not. It actually happens quite frequently where chick goes around picking up men and lures them into beatdown and a mugging. If you think about it its pretty genius because a horny guy is easily misled and won't be as aware of his surroundings. Nothing wrong with banging sluts, but just FYI condoms do help with most STDs but they can't protect vs open sores etc. Don't just slap that rubber on and go all in without a visual inspection first. | ||
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EchOne
United States2906 Posts
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dakalro
Romania525 Posts
On June 30 2011 22:47 ZeaL. wrote: If I'm in a library just talking to a chick and she randomly grabs my nuts I don't think that's normal. If it was some drunk girl in a club that would make more sense, and in that situation I would say why not. It actually happens quite frequently where chick goes around picking up men and lures them into beatdown and a mugging. If you think about it its pretty genius because a horny guy is easily misled and won't be as aware of his surroundings. Nothing wrong with banging sluts, but just FYI condoms do help with most STDs but they can't protect vs open sores etc. Don't just slap that rubber on and go all in without a visual inspection first. Let's just say that due to personal preference my eyes were always inspecting first. And I'm overall less worried about me getting STDs than I am of getting someone pregnant after a one night stand. Ruining someone's life for 1 night of fun is not a pleasant thought. As for your "frequently lure to mug", are you that sure about it? Sure, it shows up on the news but how many just go and fuck never being advertised. Just because journalists are ratings whores doesn't means this is frequent (just like the pedo scare, the rapist scares and all the shit that makes people afraid to go out of their houses). I've always gone by humans are decent and so far I've yet to get mugged or beaten. Sure, there's the occasional loud drunk with something to prove but as an adult I don't even have to deal with the random bullies that were after my money till 8th grade. And even then, the right friends and you're safe. Pays being able to have friends from all kinds of social strata. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
>implying your biggest fantasy isn't for some hot girl walking by to firmly grab your package through your jeans. >implying you haven't masturbated to this very idea, felt a little guilty and then fell asleep without showering. My fantasies usual involve someone I've very interested in, not someone totally imaginary. They also tend to go beyond just sex. Again, I don't really see the argument that it's natural to have sex with anything with a good body as very strong. I believe natural selection includes things beyond physical appearance, or as humans we wouldn't value intelligence so highly. Apes are so many species away from us it seems weird to compare homo sapiens to them. What's an ape gonna do with a big ole brain? One ape looks just as dumb as the other. As long as you can get around the forest and find food you're okay. Surviving and prospering as a human is very different. You might have sex with a random girl just for fun, but that's exactly it. It's just for fun. It's a human invention that sex doesn't have to be for procreation, the same way it is a human invention that sex is something you share only with people who get very close to you. The argument that it's natural doesn't really follow because condoms are not natural. It shouldn't be any less appropriate to decide sex is something you will only share with one person than it is to decide you can use contraceptives. Both are choices we make as thinking human beings. I believe very little of what humans do can be called 'natural' or 'instinct.' Anything that seems natural, or true, is often more easily linked to culture. | ||
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Servius_Fulvius
United States947 Posts
On June 30 2011 19:35 SaRrAceN wrote: To pound on this point. Who should I have to justify my promiscuity to ? You ? A fellow man ? What arrogance is this that a man should think he deserves my explanation for why I choose to indulge in sexual relations without intent to marry or forming a monogamous relationship. Why should I implicitly allow you to impose your beliefs upon me by acknowledging that I need 'justification' ? Your statement reeks of arrogance. I will never tell anyone that marriage is wrong and your bad/evil/stupid for doing it. Its just another way of life. No man has the right to claim one way is inherently better than the other. For such a rational person I'm surprised that you jumped several steps in assuming I'm imposing MY beliefs on you by saying you need justification. Responding to supposed arrogance with arrogance certainly advances your position. Read what I said a little closer before you start jumping the gun on your "everyone lives life differently" slogans. My claim is that you need to justify your promiscuity to yourself. Keep in mind I'm using the textbook definition of "justify" which is "to show to be just or right". It's already been stated by the OP that you think the person is hot, you've talked for a while (assuming there is enough in common to sustain said conversations), and she wants you. So how do you need to justify this? In this situation you don't for reasons already described.However, if there is a circumstance where sex is available and you don't desire it, will you do it anyway? Your desire itself is a justification if there are situations where you would say no based on appearance, attraction, and stimulation. You also brought up contraception a number of times (even casting it as bold in your original reply). Will you make a different decision if the risks are not mitigated? If you will not, then the availability of contraception is your justification for saying "yes". | ||
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TheGiz
Canada708 Posts
Seriously, there are no consequences to banging an attractive slut when using protection in a stranger situation. It's basically the equivalent of masturbating to porn, but with the obvious benefits of it being a real person; you do it anyways, no one knows, and you had a good time. Sure, if she's crazy she can do things to make your life miserable afterwards, but what woman DOESN'T do that? My attitude towards this hearkens back to high school, where my biggest regret is that I did not bang more sluts. They were hot and I had the equipment to give them a good time, and the only thing that held me back was fear - it's not like they denied many guys. Even if you adopt this attitude it's not like situations like this present themselves often, so you're really only just increasing your chances a little bit by not missing out on such glaring opportunities. Just keep your standards up. Banging ugly women doesn't give you bragging rights (although I have friends who would disagree), it just makes you a disgusting person with low standards. It also makes you seem more desperate than people who get sex less often, if you can believe it. As my caption says: | ||
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Ganjamaster
Argentina475 Posts
and BTW, to all the nay sayers: Penis Grab = InstaGG This is a law of life. | ||
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Fiendish
United States210 Posts
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Chef
10810 Posts
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Ganjamaster
Argentina475 Posts
On July 01 2011 00:16 Chef wrote: Why does it automatically have to be about morals and ethics? What happened to personal choice? A painting is just paint on paper until we say that it is beautiful. Sex is just vaginal penetration via a penis until you give it meaning. The argument here is does it mean 'this is a great story I am going to tell my friends and look baller with' or does it mean 'sex with a stranger is not beautiful to me.' There's many paintings, and people have their own preferences, and should be allowed to be. Beauty is subjective, physical pleasure is not. We do not fuck for the sake of aesthetics, we fuck for the pleasure it brings. GG | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
u bm nooby How can sex not be about aesthetics if we are specifically proposing a scenario where the woman is physically attractive? What makes that body attractive? It's meaning we give to the body. If you have the macho philosophy, your idea of a good body is probably whatever most closely resembles the media image of a good looking woman. But what if that's not the only way one comes to find a physical body attractive? For me it's often the other way around. I grow to like the personality, and that's what makes the body attractive, because it belongs to that personality. Some level of compatibility is necessary, but there isn't that much inherently beautiful about a naked body. We give the body meaning. We say this girl's body is not attractive, while this girl's body is. There's so many different types and individual preferences, there aren't many universally attractive qualities, and I believe that's because we learn what is a good looking body, not because the body is good looking by itself. | ||
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