• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:58
CEST 14:58
KST 21:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview1[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10
Community News
Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event11Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced9
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) 2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base
Brood War
General
(Spoiler) Asl ro8 D winner interview BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Do we have a pimpest plays list? AI Question
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 3 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro8 Day 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread OutLive 25 (RTS Game) Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Movie Stars In Video Games: …
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1748 users

Wtf Great Firewall of China?

Blogs > EtherealDeath
Post a Reply
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 15:36:33
June 26 2011 15:28 GMT
#1
I don't even know what the fuck is going on. I'm on the school internet of Shandong Agricultural University, well at least whatever the profs use. I assume it is probably one of the better internet connections available in Tai'an.

My speed (measured to Seoul) averages 5mb down / 2 mb up. Fucking fine and dandy. Ping is about 100 ms, loss is nonexistent. Lovely so far!

Sites are loading fine other than ones that are blocked by the great firewall unless I am running through a VPN.

I've been trying to buy an item on ebay for the last 30 minutes. I am not kidding. Been sitting here raging my ass off because every step takes like 5 minutes to load. What the fuck? Is China purposely throttling ebay/paypal on checkout / payment or something? This is ridiculous, I don't even understand how it can be this bad. Everything else that isn't blocked works fine! I've even occasionally loaded other sites just to make sure its not the connection going to shit even though occasional tests show a perfectly healthy connection.

I mean, holy shit I've been seeing the swirly circle of "Confirm your payment - Your payment is being processed" since 23:20 my time. I've never actually noticed that this swirly circle existed until today, mostly because I've seen its existance for the last 7 minutes.

What the hell is this shit....

/rage

FUCK ERROR LOL WTF "Sorry we could not process your payment at this time" or whatever jesus christ. Can't wait to return to American internet, as fucking sad as that is.

edit - nvm apparently the payment did go through... and the buying completed... so confused but what the fuck ever I am happy to be done with that process.

edit2 - mangastream pages also take damn near forever, FUUUUU wtb my Fairy Tail fix.

Aterons_toss
Profile Joined February 2011
Romania1275 Posts
June 26 2011 15:55 GMT
#2
Wait what does china have against Ebay ?
A good strategy means leaving your opponent room to make mistakes
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
June 26 2011 16:19 GMT
#3
I hate Chinese internet, but haven't encountered any issue with Ebay yet.

I'm kinda sick of always having to play with the "extra high latency" setting on ICCup T_T
ॐ
krazymunky
Profile Joined June 2008
United States727 Posts
June 26 2011 16:54 GMT
#4
On June 27 2011 00:55 Aterons_toss wrote:
Wait what does china have against Ebay ?


you could buy books that they dont want you to read? and its probably hard to monitor every item that is posted on the site.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
June 26 2011 17:07 GMT
#5
just buy on taobao
cheaper, easier and faster
its me
neotoss
Profile Joined January 2003
China217 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 17:27:45
June 26 2011 17:27 GMT
#6
I have same experience as I was on vaction in China. If I use HTTPS to visit some webpage outside of China, even just my yahoo mail account, it became incredible slow. No idea why this is Happening, maybe they don't want to people use HTTPs and delay it on purpose. As far as I understand, https is terminate as client side, which make it impossible to filter on gateway. For example, youtube, facebook are all blocked in China. If you want use these pages, you could probably build one SSL tunnel to one server outside China and visit blocked pages. I never try it in China, but I try it inside company network to visit for example TL page, because game page are blocked from our gateway.

If they don't want that happen, they could maybe just hold the encryted package from outside China on purpose to make it not useable. I could be complete wrong, but it is just what I think.
izolight
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)56 Posts
June 26 2011 18:23 GMT
#7
It doesnt really have to do with them throttling you on purpose. It is because they are like most asian isps are ridiculously overselling their transit links(connection to global internet). They might have some private links with other asian isps where it then may get faster like in the ops example with korea but for the most part they are just using one other provider like level3, global crossing, at&t or verizon to access the global internet and when that link gets close to 100% usage packet loss and high latency happens. In addition i've heard that even some internal links in china are congested.
TLDR: chinese isps are too cheap to upgrade their infrastructure.
Geovu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
June 26 2011 18:29 GMT
#8
In before "Damn Commies" comment.

I would've thought that China had its own internal ebay/email/paypal stuff, and that it would only be slow if you tried to go 'outside', so to speak. Please forgive me for my ignorance since I am an ignorant North American.
eight.BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States240 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 20:23:34
June 26 2011 19:16 GMT
#9
On June 27 2011 03:29 Geovu wrote:
In before "Damn Commies" comment.

I would've thought that China had its own internal ebay/email/paypal stuff, and that it would only be slow if you tried to go 'outside', so to speak. Please forgive me for my ignorance since I am an ignorant North American.

They do, and it was even mentioned in the thread earlier. 5 seconds googling taobao.
DarkwindHK
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong343 Posts
June 28 2011 06:23 GMT
#10
On June 27 2011 03:29 Geovu wrote:
In before "Damn Commies" comment.

I would've thought that China had its own internal ebay/email/paypal stuff, and that it would only be slow if you tried to go 'outside', so to speak. Please forgive me for my ignorance since I am an ignorant North American.


Yes China does have. Just like Google is not support in China, as they have Baidu.

Ebay --> Taobao
paypal --> alipay

same kind of reason. I do not think China is ready to open up its financial and transaction market to foreign companies yet.
Dont be too humble, you are not that great.
Jombozeus
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
China1014 Posts
July 29 2011 08:23 GMT
#11
Bro, Beijing -> Paypal is horrendous. You have to take off your VPN and wait for the error message. When the error message comes, it means you've been billed.

Its fucking retarded I know.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
GSL
09:30
2026 Season 1: Ro8 Group A
Maru vs ClassicLIVE!
IntoTheiNu 890
Ryung 485
CranKy Ducklings SOOP110
herO (SOOP)87
Rex55
GSL EN (SOOP)0
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Ryung 485
herO (SOOP) 87
Rex 55
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 54954
Calm 6895
BeSt 973
Horang2 950
EffOrt 761
Hyuk 549
actioN 415
Mini 412
Stork 361
ggaemo 311
[ Show more ]
Snow 279
Soma 248
Soulkey 226
Last 195
Rush 187
ZerO 167
Larva 147
Mind 110
hero 100
Backho 97
Mong 94
Dewaltoss 92
Hyun 87
Pusan 74
Killer 61
sorry 57
Shine 42
Aegong 38
Sacsri 33
sSak 32
Barracks 31
Bale 29
Noble 21
soO 20
Terrorterran 13
GoRush 11
IntoTheRainbow 10
ajuk12(nOOB) 8
Rock 1
Dota 2
qojqva1844
monkeys_forever159
syndereN82
League of Legends
Reynor53
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2391
byalli534
x6flipin448
allub303
edward162
kRYSTAL_37
Super Smash Bros
Westballz17
Other Games
singsing1881
B2W.Neo792
hiko435
Lowko320
ArmadaUGS119
DeMusliM112
mouzStarbuck81
Liquid`VortiX75
Liquid`LucifroN48
ZerO(Twitch)12
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 1306
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream32
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 46
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• Noizen37
League of Legends
• Jankos1327
Other Games
• WagamamaTV236
Upcoming Events
GSL
20h 32m
SHIN vs Zoun
ByuN vs herO
OSC
22h 2m
OSC
1d
Replay Cast
1d 11h
Escore
1d 21h
The PondCast
1d 21h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 22h
Zoun vs Ryung
Lambo vs ShoWTimE
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
2 days
SHIN vs Bunny
ByuN vs Shameless
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Krystianer vs TriGGeR
Cure vs Rogue
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Cure vs Zoun
Clem vs Lambo
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
BSL
4 days
GSL
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Soma vs Leta
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Light vs Flash
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-05
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W6
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.