• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:42
CEST 14:42
KST 21:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview3[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10
Community News
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !7Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base
Brood War
General
Do we have a pimpest plays list? Why there arent any 256x256 pro maps? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ (Spoiler) Asl ro8 D winner interview BW General Discussion
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL22] RO16 Group Stage - 02 - 10 May
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread OutLive 25 (RTS Game) Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1298 users

Reflections

Blogs > motbob
Post a Reply
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
June 26 2011 08:10 GMT
#1
Ever since you heard about this magical world of professional Starcraft, your life's been a pile of shit. Admit it. Your GPA plummeted, your social life's been basically non-existent except for a few close friends. Hell, at least when you were a Halo 2 junkie you had buddies right beside you when you played split-screen. You got your B.A., at least. Congrats. Now you have no chance of getting into grad school, and you have no job one month out of college. Has it been worth it?

I want you to draw up a costs/benefits chart of this "hobby" of yours (more like a very enjoyable full-time job. Sound familiar?) We already talked a bit about the costs (such as the ruining of your life) but what about some of the benefits? I know that watching 8 hours of Dreamhack leaves you with a warm and fuzzy feeling inside, but I want you to look me in the eye and tell me that the time was better spent than reading Churchill's memoirs on WWII, something you never got done, or shoring up your almost non-existent skill in chess. Read a book, man! Learn a trade. Fix up the deck. Help out your parents, who, as you might recall, still live with you. Perhaps you should focus on moving out, and not on whether PvZ is imbalanced.

What happened to all your other passions, man? Chess, history, politics. Reading in general. All the things you used to spend time on have been sacrificed to the insatiable appetite of the Starcraft God. Your life could be fulfilling and great if only you could let this addiction go.

It is not as if you haven't accomplished anything in the Starcraft community. Your R&S threads were a useful resource back in the early days of GOM, and at around the time of MLG Dallas 2010 you started to bring the art of well-made LR threads into the SC2 portion of this site. You removed "confusing format" from the laundry list of complaints that spectators had at MLG Dallas 2011. And NASL... let's not get started on all the work you did for them.

But let's not kid ourselves. If you think TL still needs you , you're very wrong. Do you know what WoW syndrome is? Everyone in WoW thinks, "The guild needs me. I heal the other members of my party. They couldn't raid without me. I'm useful."

Wrong. The guild needs a healer, not you specifically. It's the same here on TL. Sure, people are grateful for the work that you do, just like they're grateful for the work of every member of staff, from the TSL organizers to the liquibet adders. But the SC2 community is chugging along, man. There's more manpower than ever before. If you're not updating results and standings, that's OK. Other people can take up the mantle and make threads of their own, or they can just go to Liquipedia. There has always been someone to fill the gap in the Starcraft community, and there always will be.

You're still a child. The other night, you watched someone play Portal for four hours. You're unemployed, man! What are you doing with your life? Reconnect with the things that are important. Family, friends. Knowledge. Get a job. Get a life, and I mean that in the most positive way. Your life used to be awesome. Now it isn't. I think we both know the reason why.

A man pays the first month of rent, instead of buying a new computer or a smartphone. A man hangs out with his friends, instead of sitting hunched at his computer. A man starts a family. You don't even have the slightest idea of how you're going to do that. It's time to grow up.

Follow your passions. If you can't do that, find new passions.

Yeah, you say you'll quit TL. But you'll be back, in a year, six months, or a week. I just hope that when you do come back, you load up this blog post and press alt-f4.

****
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Logginurkeyz
Profile Joined September 2010
United States375 Posts
June 26 2011 08:20 GMT
#2
I used to watch ProLeague and OSL religiously- then I got a job... Now I feel like I have to wait for the weekends to watch it. =0\
Jemag... Jemag... you're like an alcoholic telling me why you drink... you have your reasons, but it's still bad... <3 iNcontroL
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
June 26 2011 08:21 GMT
#3
But...but...what about ESPORTS?
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
June 26 2011 08:23 GMT
#4
Why do you feel bad for spending time doing what you love?
Aspiring British Caster / Masters Protoss
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 08:30:02
June 26 2011 08:26 GMT
#5
On June 26 2011 17:23 Vequeth wrote:
Why do you feel bad for spending time doing what you love?


At won't point is "doing the things you love" worth it? Wouldn't everyone love to play and improve at SC2 constantly. Wouldn't everyone love to have the free time to keep up with every event and every tournament statistic? There are a lot of things that can make someone happy, but not all of them can lead to a stable life or even a happy one in the long run.

Just like SC, it's just about balance.

PS: gl motbob <3
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
Straylight
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada706 Posts
June 26 2011 08:45 GMT
#6
On June 26 2011 17:23 Vequeth wrote:
Why do you feel bad for spending time doing what you love?


He said addiction, not love.
It felt like gravity.
SirJolt
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
the Dagon Knight4011 Posts
June 26 2011 09:19 GMT
#7
Reading that post, I have never been gladder I made the decision a long time ago to only watch a few games here and there. I'm still watching DreamHack games when I get a chance, because they're in my iTunes.

I am sorry to ask, but how much of this is based on a mythical average TLer, and how much on your own experience?
Moderator@SirJolt
zawk9
Profile Joined March 2011
United States427 Posts
June 26 2011 09:46 GMT
#8
Good post. I think theirs a lot of people, myself included, who would benefit from taking another step back from Starcraft for a while. I don't know if this is mostly self-talk/reflection or a general impression of a particular poster, but its very well written and would probably be helpful for a lot of people.

Although I wouldn't say that its even come close to being as damaging as it was from the POV of the narrator for me, the amount of time I've been devoting to this game recently is certainly reaching the absurd. Thank you for the motivation to take a break and smell the roses.

there's a bug in the new patch where the other player keeps killing all my dudes.. please nerf this
Eviltoast
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia166 Posts
June 26 2011 09:48 GMT
#9
This seems correct I guess I'm giving up Tl and sc now thanks for the kick up the ass lets see how long I can last
it's copacetic... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
June 26 2011 11:04 GMT
#10
On June 26 2011 18:48 Eviltoast wrote:
This seems correct I guess I'm giving up Tl and sc now thanks for the kick up the ass lets see how long I can last


See you on Friday then?
fusefuse
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Estonia4644 Posts
June 26 2011 12:01 GMT
#11
most depressing blog post ever D:
Liquipedia@jkursk
teamamerica
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States958 Posts
June 26 2011 12:07 GMT
#12
Hey motbob good luck in whatever you decide to do. Your lr threads have been great. I hope you take some pride in knowing most forumers on tl know who you are. Sure someone will fill your spot but that doesn't mean what you were doing is useless. The same can be said of anyone doing anything (almost) but that doesn't mean they were wasting their time doing it. Sure this is a little hypocritical coming from a guy who just leeches off what forumers like you bring to tl, but thanks for all the great work you've done. Fighting! I'm sure given the dedication you've exhhibited here you'll do well.

If only everyone who is so eager to devote their life to sc2 all of a sudden (streaming, going 'pro', etc.) could read this and see how thankless a passion they're getting into.
RIP GOMTV. RIP PROLEAGUE.
heha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia425 Posts
June 26 2011 12:38 GMT
#13
Seems to hold very true to my own heart; SC2 is a natural place for many to gather, alot of us whom have weak self-discipline and love to procrastinate. Me = Definitely one of those, thanks for this wakeup call motbob, though knowing me the motivation will probably only last for the next 4 hours, then I'll sleep and wake up in the morning and it'll all be back to normal. >.> Probably destroying my future prospects, but yes, the prospect of watching/playing professional Starcraft 2 is simply too alluring a lifestyle. Definitely something a lot of us need to be aware of

Thank you Motbob

P.S. Haha, just realised your message is the one my parents have been trying to send to me for months/years now >.<
Random for life! phoneheha
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
June 26 2011 12:39 GMT
#14
And this is what it means to be casual. A much more enjoyable experience, on the whole. Of course, the hardcore players is what keeps the scene interesting.

But lets not romanticize having a "real" life. I have friends who never play games, they just date girls and play sports, and they are no happier than me, their lives are no more worthwile.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13407 Posts
June 26 2011 14:32 GMT
#15
Slowly I watch less and less starcraft tournaments and just watch the truly epic moments. Also, once I fulfill my goal of master league in SC2 I can go back to seriously doing my homework as I had end of August as my Master's league goal
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
June 30 2011 08:40 GMT
#16
Good luck in the future, be strong during withdrawal!
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
June 30 2011 08:48 GMT
#17
You're hurting esports!

I hope to see you back soon? Or maybe necro to ban like Plexa loll
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
June 30 2011 08:59 GMT
#18
motbob i love you <3

GL HF
d=(^_^)z
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
11:00
Wardi Spring Cup
Ryung vs LamboLIVE!
Zoun vs ShoWTimE
IntoTheiNu 800
WardiTV718
TKL 223
Rex103
Ryung 86
LiquipediaDiscussion
Escore
10:00
Week 6
escodisco2128
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 223
Rex 103
Ryung 86
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 39217
Sea 7230
Calm 5018
Horang2 1493
Bisu 1122
firebathero 1036
Mini 465
Light 347
Pusan 316
EffOrt 298
[ Show more ]
Killer 289
Stork 266
Soma 263
Hyuk 259
actioN 240
ggaemo 179
BeSt 139
Soulkey 133
Zeus 106
Hyun 99
ZerO 97
Dewaltoss 75
ToSsGirL 68
Rush 67
hero 61
[sc1f]eonzerg 43
Sharp 40
soO 38
HiyA 35
Sea.KH 34
Backho 31
Free 30
910 28
Shine 21
Barracks 18
Bale 17
sorry 16
IntoTheRainbow 15
Sacsri 14
GoRush 12
scan(afreeca) 11
Terrorterran 11
Noble 9
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
Icarus 7
Dota 2
Gorgc3244
XcaliburYe94
League of Legends
Reynor75
Counter-Strike
zeus782
allub269
edward108
Other Games
gofns17087
singsing2209
B2W.Neo1156
hiko404
DeMusliM399
Lowko315
KnowMe188
monkeys_forever123
Mew2King88
NeuroSwarm48
ArmadaUGS40
ZerO(Twitch)14
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1421
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 13
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 53
• LUISG 35
• Adnapsc2 13
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3786
• TFBlade1057
Other Games
• WagamamaTV342
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
3h 18m
Fjant vs Bly
Serral vs Shameless
OSC
9h 18m
The PiG Daily
10h 18m
Maru vs Rogue
TBD vs Classic
herO vs Solar
ByuN vs Solar
Replay Cast
11h 18m
CranKy Ducklings
21h 18m
RSL Revival
21h 18m
SHIN vs Bunny
ByuN vs Shameless
WardiTV Invitational
22h 18m
Krystianer vs TriGGeR
Cure vs Rogue
SC Evo League
1d
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 2h
BSL
1d 6h
Artosis vs TerrOr
spx vs StRyKeR
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
1d 11h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 21h
RSL Revival
1d 21h
Cure vs Zoun
Clem vs Lambo
WardiTV Invitational
1d 22h
BSL
2 days
Dewalt vs DragOn
Aether vs Jimin
GSL
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soma vs Leta
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
OSC
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Light vs Flash
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-05
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
Escore Tournament S2: W6
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026: Closed Qualifier
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.