• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 20:08
CET 02:08
KST 10:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
Liquibets sc2 season 30 Evil Geniuses - shutting down Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles Mutation # 548 Shining Bright
Brood War
General
Top Players of October 2026 (EBPD Rankings) [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos BW General Discussion Rollback Netcode in Brood War How SKT1 S-Tiers Felt To Be Swept By Flash
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll [IPSL] IPSL Winter 26-27 Ro24 is HERE!
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Deus Ex 3!? Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11428 users

Reflections

Blogs > motbob
Post a Reply
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
June 26 2011 08:10 GMT
#1
Ever since you heard about this magical world of professional Starcraft, your life's been a pile of shit. Admit it. Your GPA plummeted, your social life's been basically non-existent except for a few close friends. Hell, at least when you were a Halo 2 junkie you had buddies right beside you when you played split-screen. You got your B.A., at least. Congrats. Now you have no chance of getting into grad school, and you have no job one month out of college. Has it been worth it?

I want you to draw up a costs/benefits chart of this "hobby" of yours (more like a very enjoyable full-time job. Sound familiar?) We already talked a bit about the costs (such as the ruining of your life) but what about some of the benefits? I know that watching 8 hours of Dreamhack leaves you with a warm and fuzzy feeling inside, but I want you to look me in the eye and tell me that the time was better spent than reading Churchill's memoirs on WWII, something you never got done, or shoring up your almost non-existent skill in chess. Read a book, man! Learn a trade. Fix up the deck. Help out your parents, who, as you might recall, still live with you. Perhaps you should focus on moving out, and not on whether PvZ is imbalanced.

What happened to all your other passions, man? Chess, history, politics. Reading in general. All the things you used to spend time on have been sacrificed to the insatiable appetite of the Starcraft God. Your life could be fulfilling and great if only you could let this addiction go.

It is not as if you haven't accomplished anything in the Starcraft community. Your R&S threads were a useful resource back in the early days of GOM, and at around the time of MLG Dallas 2010 you started to bring the art of well-made LR threads into the SC2 portion of this site. You removed "confusing format" from the laundry list of complaints that spectators had at MLG Dallas 2011. And NASL... let's not get started on all the work you did for them.

But let's not kid ourselves. If you think TL still needs you , you're very wrong. Do you know what WoW syndrome is? Everyone in WoW thinks, "The guild needs me. I heal the other members of my party. They couldn't raid without me. I'm useful."

Wrong. The guild needs a healer, not you specifically. It's the same here on TL. Sure, people are grateful for the work that you do, just like they're grateful for the work of every member of staff, from the TSL organizers to the liquibet adders. But the SC2 community is chugging along, man. There's more manpower than ever before. If you're not updating results and standings, that's OK. Other people can take up the mantle and make threads of their own, or they can just go to Liquipedia. There has always been someone to fill the gap in the Starcraft community, and there always will be.

You're still a child. The other night, you watched someone play Portal for four hours. You're unemployed, man! What are you doing with your life? Reconnect with the things that are important. Family, friends. Knowledge. Get a job. Get a life, and I mean that in the most positive way. Your life used to be awesome. Now it isn't. I think we both know the reason why.

A man pays the first month of rent, instead of buying a new computer or a smartphone. A man hangs out with his friends, instead of sitting hunched at his computer. A man starts a family. You don't even have the slightest idea of how you're going to do that. It's time to grow up.

Follow your passions. If you can't do that, find new passions.

Yeah, you say you'll quit TL. But you'll be back, in a year, six months, or a week. I just hope that when you do come back, you load up this blog post and press alt-f4.

****
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Logginurkeyz
Profile Joined September 2010
United States375 Posts
June 26 2011 08:20 GMT
#2
I used to watch ProLeague and OSL religiously- then I got a job... Now I feel like I have to wait for the weekends to watch it. =0\
Jemag... Jemag... you're like an alcoholic telling me why you drink... you have your reasons, but it's still bad... <3 iNcontroL
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
June 26 2011 08:21 GMT
#3
But...but...what about ESPORTS?
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
June 26 2011 08:23 GMT
#4
Why do you feel bad for spending time doing what you love?
Aspiring British Caster / Masters Protoss
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 08:30:02
June 26 2011 08:26 GMT
#5
On June 26 2011 17:23 Vequeth wrote:
Why do you feel bad for spending time doing what you love?


At won't point is "doing the things you love" worth it? Wouldn't everyone love to play and improve at SC2 constantly. Wouldn't everyone love to have the free time to keep up with every event and every tournament statistic? There are a lot of things that can make someone happy, but not all of them can lead to a stable life or even a happy one in the long run.

Just like SC, it's just about balance.

PS: gl motbob <3
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
Straylight
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada706 Posts
June 26 2011 08:45 GMT
#6
On June 26 2011 17:23 Vequeth wrote:
Why do you feel bad for spending time doing what you love?


He said addiction, not love.
It felt like gravity.
SirJolt
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
the Dagon Knight4016 Posts
June 26 2011 09:19 GMT
#7
Reading that post, I have never been gladder I made the decision a long time ago to only watch a few games here and there. I'm still watching DreamHack games when I get a chance, because they're in my iTunes.

I am sorry to ask, but how much of this is based on a mythical average TLer, and how much on your own experience?
Moderator@SirJolt
zawk9
Profile Joined March 2011
United States427 Posts
June 26 2011 09:46 GMT
#8
Good post. I think theirs a lot of people, myself included, who would benefit from taking another step back from Starcraft for a while. I don't know if this is mostly self-talk/reflection or a general impression of a particular poster, but its very well written and would probably be helpful for a lot of people.

Although I wouldn't say that its even come close to being as damaging as it was from the POV of the narrator for me, the amount of time I've been devoting to this game recently is certainly reaching the absurd. Thank you for the motivation to take a break and smell the roses.

there's a bug in the new patch where the other player keeps killing all my dudes.. please nerf this
Eviltoast
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia166 Posts
June 26 2011 09:48 GMT
#9
This seems correct I guess I'm giving up Tl and sc now thanks for the kick up the ass lets see how long I can last
it's copacetic... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
June 26 2011 11:04 GMT
#10
On June 26 2011 18:48 Eviltoast wrote:
This seems correct I guess I'm giving up Tl and sc now thanks for the kick up the ass lets see how long I can last


See you on Friday then?
fusefuse
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Estonia4644 Posts
June 26 2011 12:01 GMT
#11
most depressing blog post ever D:
Liquipedia@jkursk
teamamerica
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States958 Posts
June 26 2011 12:07 GMT
#12
Hey motbob good luck in whatever you decide to do. Your lr threads have been great. I hope you take some pride in knowing most forumers on tl know who you are. Sure someone will fill your spot but that doesn't mean what you were doing is useless. The same can be said of anyone doing anything (almost) but that doesn't mean they were wasting their time doing it. Sure this is a little hypocritical coming from a guy who just leeches off what forumers like you bring to tl, but thanks for all the great work you've done. Fighting! I'm sure given the dedication you've exhhibited here you'll do well.

If only everyone who is so eager to devote their life to sc2 all of a sudden (streaming, going 'pro', etc.) could read this and see how thankless a passion they're getting into.
RIP GOMTV. RIP PROLEAGUE.
heha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia425 Posts
June 26 2011 12:38 GMT
#13
Seems to hold very true to my own heart; SC2 is a natural place for many to gather, alot of us whom have weak self-discipline and love to procrastinate. Me = Definitely one of those, thanks for this wakeup call motbob, though knowing me the motivation will probably only last for the next 4 hours, then I'll sleep and wake up in the morning and it'll all be back to normal. >.> Probably destroying my future prospects, but yes, the prospect of watching/playing professional Starcraft 2 is simply too alluring a lifestyle. Definitely something a lot of us need to be aware of

Thank you Motbob

P.S. Haha, just realised your message is the one my parents have been trying to send to me for months/years now >.<
Random for life! phoneheha
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
June 26 2011 12:39 GMT
#14
And this is what it means to be casual. A much more enjoyable experience, on the whole. Of course, the hardcore players is what keeps the scene interesting.

But lets not romanticize having a "real" life. I have friends who never play games, they just date girls and play sports, and they are no happier than me, their lives are no more worthwile.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13431 Posts
June 26 2011 14:32 GMT
#15
Slowly I watch less and less starcraft tournaments and just watch the truly epic moments. Also, once I fulfill my goal of master league in SC2 I can go back to seriously doing my homework as I had end of August as my Master's league goal
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
June 30 2011 08:40 GMT
#16
Good luck in the future, be strong during withdrawal!
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
June 30 2011 08:48 GMT
#17
You're hurting esports!

I hope to see you back soon? Or maybe necro to ban like Plexa loll
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
June 30 2011 08:59 GMT
#18
motbob i love you <3

GL HF
d=(^_^)z
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
10:00
#106
PiGStarcraft317
davetesta18
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft317
ViBE143
CosmosSc2 38
RuFF_SC2 5
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 1954
Artosis 588
ProTech117
White-Ra 97
ggaemo 58
Aegong 43
League of Legends
Doublelift4583
JimRising 740
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1455
Super Smash Bros
PPMD38
Other Games
summit1g11657
Day[9].tv585
C9.Mang0247
Maynarde135
syndereN116
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick524
Counter-Strike
PGL166
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 34
• musti20045 11
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis2092
• Jankos1712
Other Games
• Day9tv585
• imaqtpie440
Upcoming Events
Kung Fu Cup
9h 53m
Replay Cast
21h 53m
The PondCast
1d 8h
KCM Race Survival
1d 8h
OSC
1d 12h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
Reynor vs Solar
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs MaxPax
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
IPSL
3 days
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
AI Arena Tournament
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
IPSL
4 days
Azhi_Dahaki vs ggnore13
Double vs WIZARD
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-02
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.