• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:26
CEST 23:26
KST 06:26
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8
Community News
SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup4StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)66Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double2Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3BSL Season 2315
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? October World Ranking: herO stays #1, ByuN returns SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) Awesome/Confusing SC2 BM
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Grand Finals Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) SC2 INu's Battles#21 [ 3-Days tournament ]
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses
Brood War
General
Sagi.gg Launcher Released RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site Bot on ladder BW General Discussion BSL Season 23
Tourneys
2v2v2v2 Tournament [ASL22] Ro8 Day 4 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 3
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Escaping Into Video Games: G…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8613 users

SC2 Today

Blogs > DRAM
Post a Reply
DRAM
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom33 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 12:21:13
June 10 2011 11:29 GMT
#1
Name : DRAM
Server : EU
Code: 634

Retarded League Zerg

Soo when facing Zerg in Retarded League there are only really 2 builds that I have to think about.

1 is the dreaded ever popular 6 Pool to counter it all I need to do is wall in and have a zealot on hold in the gap by the 3 minute mark. I like to add a Cannon and possibly a Stalker as well. But There not needed just helpful.

2 is the 10 minute Muta Harass rush. Have 4 warpgates build Stalkers build a few Stalkers get Blink on the Stalkers Kill Mutas.

This has lead me to building and loving the Stalker a highly unreasonable amount. I would say a good 75% of my wins come from stalkers Blinking into the main base and the other person going GG.

Would anyone be willing to show me the other Zerg builds that I might encounter when I eventually get out of the Retarded league?

Girls of SC2

I recently noticed a Female SC2 Tourny . I started to read through the thread and there were some really good points raised and some funny jokes. Most of the thread seemed to consist of guys trying to hit on any of the girls in the Tournament and wanting to see them play naked.

I think the idea of the Tournament was cool but the response it got was underwhelming from people who are meant to like SC. I'm not going to say that I wouldn't like the idea of a gamer gf who I could play with. But the responses posted just left me feeling like I know why girls would avoid gamers

Matchmaking
I also just got matched against the same guy in Platinum twice in a row. he destroyed me both times without trying. I'm in Bronze League FFS How is putting me against Plat level players going to lead to a interesting game? It will just lead to me being bent over and taken to brown town. *cries*

"What doesn't kill me better pray they can run"
Aim Here
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Scotland672 Posts
June 10 2011 13:49 GMT
#2
For the girls, agreed. Starcraft fans have real issues when it comes to women coming within a mile of a Starcraft game. I ended up clicking the report button there a day or two back, and there is a moderator warning telling people to stop derailing it with the usual 'are women-only tournaments acceptable?' argument, but to no avail - within a page they're right back at it. You NEVER see that debate happen with 'gold or below' or 'Scandinavia only' competitions where the exact same arguments can be made. Between that and the incessant demands for pictures and the kitchen jokes and the 'attention whore' comments, I pretty much feel the Starcraft community (as a whole, there are exceptions, obviously) are actively hostile to women.

Matchmaking> there's a bunch of explanations as to why this happened. Maybe you've got a really high MMR and bnet hasn't quite promoted you yet. Maybe the Platinum has a really low MMR (he could have been trying to get demoted to go on a smurfing binge, or he could have let his 9 year old brother play on his account for a week or so, and it tanked). Maybe it's a combination of both.

Note that being mismatched like that is the exception rather than the rule for bnet2 - if you ever used battle.net or even iCCup for BroodWar, you'll have found the skill mismatches FAR more brutal than you get on the Starcraft 2 ladder. I think the sc2 matchmaking works really well since you get far more relatively-even matches than not. Think of the odd one-sided match as just a little holiday to see how the rest of the world plays...

ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 14:32:33
June 10 2011 14:31 GMT
#3
Ugh yeah those chumps in the girls tourney threads are pissing so many people off.
Saying "this is sexist" seriously! they are worried about being oppressed in starcraft?!?!!

Girl leagues organizations and groups in a male dominated scene are such a good idea, and obviously not sexist at all.... there needs to be a solution to those threads. I think everyone that comments in them negatively regarding women should strait up be nuked out of existance.
purge 2.0 style


VERSES ZERG!
You got it right on the wall in good call.
I would suggest getting 3 gateways in the retarded league.
Build a forward pylon and warp in stalkers and you can sometimes win like that.
Learning how to open with three gates will be important for when you improve.
(Wiki)Excelent Build
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL: Ladder Tournament
04:00
#2 - $100
ZZZero.O118
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
JuggernautJason101
SpeCial 99
Railgan 57
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 15469
Dewaltoss 165
ZZZero.O 118
firebathero 115
Hyuk 90
Terrorterran 21
Dota 2
febbydoto47
League of Legends
Doublelift3441
Counter-Strike
Fnx 785
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby5823
crisheroes870
Other Games
summit1g7179
FrodaN2534
fl0m794
mouzStarbuck333
KnowMe287
ToD241
ArmadaUGS137
Mew2King47
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1155
BasetradeTV203
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream93
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 73
• Hupsaiya 24
• musti20045 20
• Adnapsc2 16
• Letter145
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 50
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Noizen121
Other Games
• imaqtpie842
• Shiphtur222
• tFFMrPink 17
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
12h 34m
INu's Battles
14h 34m
herO vs Classic
Percival vs Rogue
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
17h 34m
MilkiCow vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
BSL Open Qualifier
21h 34m
BSL Open Qualifier
21h 34m
Replay Cast
1d 1h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 12h
Rush vs Light
WardiTV Weekly
1d 13h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 18h
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soma vs Soulkey
INu's Battles
2 days
SHIN vs Cure
ByuN vs Zoun
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
INu's Battles
4 days
Replay Cast
6 days
BSL: Ladder Tournament
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-02
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Calamity Invitational

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Copium Cup
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.