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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom33 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 12:21:13
June 10 2011 11:29 GMT
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Name : DRAM
Server : EU
Code: 634

Retarded League Zerg

Soo when facing Zerg in Retarded League there are only really 2 builds that I have to think about.

1 is the dreaded ever popular 6 Pool to counter it all I need to do is wall in and have a zealot on hold in the gap by the 3 minute mark. I like to add a Cannon and possibly a Stalker as well. But There not needed just helpful.

2 is the 10 minute Muta Harass rush. Have 4 warpgates build Stalkers build a few Stalkers get Blink on the Stalkers Kill Mutas.

This has lead me to building and loving the Stalker a highly unreasonable amount. I would say a good 75% of my wins come from stalkers Blinking into the main base and the other person going GG.

Would anyone be willing to show me the other Zerg builds that I might encounter when I eventually get out of the Retarded league?

Girls of SC2

I recently noticed a Female SC2 Tourny . I started to read through the thread and there were some really good points raised and some funny jokes. Most of the thread seemed to consist of guys trying to hit on any of the girls in the Tournament and wanting to see them play naked.

I think the idea of the Tournament was cool but the response it got was underwhelming from people who are meant to like SC. I'm not going to say that I wouldn't like the idea of a gamer gf who I could play with. But the responses posted just left me feeling like I know why girls would avoid gamers

Matchmaking
I also just got matched against the same guy in Platinum twice in a row. he destroyed me both times without trying. I'm in Bronze League FFS How is putting me against Plat level players going to lead to a interesting game? It will just lead to me being bent over and taken to brown town. *cries*

"What doesn't kill me better pray they can run"
Aim Here
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Scotland672 Posts
June 10 2011 13:49 GMT
#2
For the girls, agreed. Starcraft fans have real issues when it comes to women coming within a mile of a Starcraft game. I ended up clicking the report button there a day or two back, and there is a moderator warning telling people to stop derailing it with the usual 'are women-only tournaments acceptable?' argument, but to no avail - within a page they're right back at it. You NEVER see that debate happen with 'gold or below' or 'Scandinavia only' competitions where the exact same arguments can be made. Between that and the incessant demands for pictures and the kitchen jokes and the 'attention whore' comments, I pretty much feel the Starcraft community (as a whole, there are exceptions, obviously) are actively hostile to women.

Matchmaking> there's a bunch of explanations as to why this happened. Maybe you've got a really high MMR and bnet hasn't quite promoted you yet. Maybe the Platinum has a really low MMR (he could have been trying to get demoted to go on a smurfing binge, or he could have let his 9 year old brother play on his account for a week or so, and it tanked). Maybe it's a combination of both.

Note that being mismatched like that is the exception rather than the rule for bnet2 - if you ever used battle.net or even iCCup for BroodWar, you'll have found the skill mismatches FAR more brutal than you get on the Starcraft 2 ladder. I think the sc2 matchmaking works really well since you get far more relatively-even matches than not. Think of the odd one-sided match as just a little holiday to see how the rest of the world plays...

ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 14:32:33
June 10 2011 14:31 GMT
#3
Ugh yeah those chumps in the girls tourney threads are pissing so many people off.
Saying "this is sexist" seriously! they are worried about being oppressed in starcraft?!?!!

Girl leagues organizations and groups in a male dominated scene are such a good idea, and obviously not sexist at all.... there needs to be a solution to those threads. I think everyone that comments in them negatively regarding women should strait up be nuked out of existance.
purge 2.0 style


VERSES ZERG!
You got it right on the wall in good call.
I would suggest getting 3 gateways in the retarded league.
Build a forward pylon and warp in stalkers and you can sometimes win like that.
Learning how to open with three gates will be important for when you improve.
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