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On June 09 2011 08:11 Torte de Lini wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 09 2011 07:56 Lysenko wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 03:29 Torte de Lini wrote:
I can't change degrees because I'm already one year into it, so I have to try and make due with it. I don't like the idea of uncertainty, I don't think anyone does, but I have a real social insecurity about it. Believe me, you can almost certainly change majors one year in with no problem. (I mean, if you wanted to switch to a physical science or engineering you might have some issues catching up, but many majors should be perfectly accessible). Yeah, you'll need to catch up on a few things and maybe take a heavier course load for a few terms, but better now than later. Even so, why are you so worried about your major in college? It doesn't have to be related to what you do for a living. Here's a hint: if you want to do something other than what you're majoring in, spend your summers interning for people who do something more to your taste. Being a sociology major won't be a problem at all. You can't finish most of the other majors because you have to take certain requisites before moving onto the other courses. Meaning they systematically set it so you have to waste a whole semester doing two courses in order to have access to four other courses. The reason I can do Sociology in two years is because of how loose and free it is, something I can't say for all other majors. I have 3 years to finish my major, but I can do it in two and focus on my minor in the last year without a problem. Even so, why are you so worried about your major in college? It doesn't have to be related to what you do for a living. Because it's the only sense of direction I have. Here's a hint: if you want to do something other than what you're majoring in, spend your summers interning for people who do something more to your taste. Being a sociology major won't be a problem at all. I am not allowed to do internships or jobs during the summer as part of the tuition agreement (and another reason). All my summers are booked finishing my major as fast as possible (This summer, I'm doing 3 courses in Sociology).
Well Torte, you seem to be going through what pretty much every college student goes through. The light at the end of the tunnel is getting pretty fuzzy and you're not sure what it leads to.
All I can say is that I completed a BSc in computing and genetics but ended up working for a city council procesing gambling license applications for a year. I had a career goal during my study, I wanted to get into the pharmaceutical industry but wasn't able to after I graduated. I decided to travel for a year but got stuck in Birmingham, UK, working the council. However the experience I gained implementing new processes there is what allowed me to get into Pharma when I got back to Aus. This point in my life I still marvel at. It is almost ironic that my years of planning counted for little but my year of random fun got me the job. Now I am studying my masters part time to move into an economics role.
You seem to know what skills you want to use, perhaps all you need is a little information of what jobs will allow you to use them. You don't have to get a summer job to find out what people do in the industries you are looking into. Any connections you make at college are priceless. Show a little proactivity and find someone with a job you want. Ask them what you need to do to get that role. You seem to have started this already which is awesome.
You're a smart guy, so you probably know that unless you are looking at graduate school your major doesn't really mean much. All it does is show employers what skills you have developed. I honestly believe that if you know what kind of things you want to do in your job, the rest becomes clearer.
Good luck mate, keep the blogs coming.
PS Sorry for the essay. I have the same problem with brevity.
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On June 09 2011 07:13 SirJolt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 04:17 Torte de Lini wrote:
How do you go about finding such jobs as you described above? My only really good qualifications for jobs such as social media representative is that I can spend long, silly hours on a site so long as it is active or have a reasonable number of people to interact with, then again... who can't do that (can anyone see how long a user spends his time on a site?)
What did you do on a day-to-day basis? What did you do when you had nothing really to do? I was thinking of doing a minor in Anthropology, purely because it'd be easy since I'm already doing Sociology, but it's a bit redundant no?
For me it was quite lucky; a guy who had been my managing editor while I was working as a news writer called me up during the last month or so of my undergrad and asked if I would be available to write some advertorial stuff for him. The money was alright, but there were no jobs to be had so I accepted. A few months later, they mentioned that they wanted to get into social-web stuff in a big way, crack up a blog and really go to town on Twitter, then at least have a reasonable presence on Facebook and some Irish message boards (there are a couple that are really huge nationally). So I was sort of put in control of all that. I guess from day-to-day the biggest portion of my work was writing the company blog. They had said that there was a noticeable gap in the Irish market for web-based tech publications, so (whether that niche existed or not) it was my job to basically write news for their blog in the time I wasn't actively managing anything on the 'social media' side. I think I averaged about 4,000 words a day the entire time I worked there, with some days heavier than others. + Show Spoiler + The one thing writing news teaches you is that everything has a fanboy. There were guys who would comment hyper-aggressively if we made a tongue-in-cheek comment about Steve Ballmer; it was an educational experience in terms of learning to write in an absolutely unbiased fashion, i think. Personally, I've not studied sociology, but I think the biggest difference between it and sociology is that it has a qualitative approach to research, rather than quantitative. It's a lot more about the 'cultures' of a place/group/category. It also helps a bundle with things like developing a rapport with the people you're working with... which can be a little uncomfortable when you're basically being asked to establish a trust with people such that they'll be easier to sell to. It was interesting, the work itself was tough, but rewarding when it went well. We were nominated for a number of awards during my tenure too, which is always nice  I think I'd have enjoyed it a lot more if not for some really weird specifics of my situation there, but I hope some of this has been helpful
Yeah, I see the difference between anthropology and sociology, I just don't see its practicality on its own unless I am teaching or doing surveys/statistical work.
As for your adventures into that particular job, I don't see myself getting that lucky. In fact, such stories always amaze me because I can never see the likelihood of such a thing happening.
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Dude I really wish I could post as much as you do, Your in literally every thread I read. Keep it up, and congratz on masters.
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On June 09 2011 11:46 Rasun wrote:
Dude I really wish I could post as much as you do, Your in literally every thread I read. Keep it up, and congratz on masters.
No you don't. Imagine what you are doing productive in life while I banter and trivialize my worth by preoccupying myself with the forums.
On June 09 2011 10:46 Probulous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 08:11 Torte de Lini wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 09 2011 07:56 Lysenko wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 03:29 Torte de Lini wrote:
I can't change degrees because I'm already one year into it, so I have to try and make due with it. I don't like the idea of uncertainty, I don't think anyone does, but I have a real social insecurity about it. Believe me, you can almost certainly change majors one year in with no problem. (I mean, if you wanted to switch to a physical science or engineering you might have some issues catching up, but many majors should be perfectly accessible). Yeah, you'll need to catch up on a few things and maybe take a heavier course load for a few terms, but better now than later. Even so, why are you so worried about your major in college? It doesn't have to be related to what you do for a living. Here's a hint: if you want to do something other than what you're majoring in, spend your summers interning for people who do something more to your taste. Being a sociology major won't be a problem at all. You can't finish most of the other majors because you have to take certain requisites before moving onto the other courses. Meaning they systematically set it so you have to waste a whole semester doing two courses in order to have access to four other courses. The reason I can do Sociology in two years is because of how loose and free it is, something I can't say for all other majors. I have 3 years to finish my major, but I can do it in two and focus on my minor in the last year without a problem. Even so, why are you so worried about your major in college? It doesn't have to be related to what you do for a living. Because it's the only sense of direction I have. Here's a hint: if you want to do something other than what you're majoring in, spend your summers interning for people who do something more to your taste. Being a sociology major won't be a problem at all. I am not allowed to do internships or jobs during the summer as part of the tuition agreement (and another reason). All my summers are booked finishing my major as fast as possible (This summer, I'm doing 3 courses in Sociology). Well Torte, you seem to be going through what pretty much every college student goes through. The light at the end of the tunnel is getting pretty fuzzy and you're not sure what it leads to. All I can say is that I completed a BSc in computing and genetics but ended up working for a city council procesing gambling license applications for a year. I had a career goal during my study, I wanted to get into the pharmaceutical industry but wasn't able to after I graduated. I decided to travel for a year but got stuck in Birmingham, UK, working the council. However the experience I gained implementing new processes there is what allowed me to get into Pharma when I got back to Aus. This point in my life I still marvel at. It is almost ironic that my years of planning counted for little but my year of random fun got me the job. Now I am studying my masters part time to move into an economics role. Don't apologize about writing an essay, look at my blogs, they're too long. You seem to know what skills you want to use, perhaps all you need is a little information of what jobs will allow you to use them. You don't have to get a summer job to find out what people do in the industries you are looking into. Any connections you make at college are priceless. Show a little proactivity and find someone with a job you want. Ask them what you need to do to get that role. You seem to have started this already which is awesome. You're a smart guy, so you probably know that unless you are looking at graduate school your major doesn't really mean much. All it does is show employers what skills you have developed. I honestly believe that if you know what kind of things you want to do in your job, the rest becomes clearer. Good luck mate, keep the blogs coming. PS Sorry for the essay. I have the same problem with brevity.
Yeah, I think you're right. I know very little of the job market and its ranges. I just don't want to be stuck doing something I hate and I guess that's an unrealistic, but real reasoning with someone as young and inexperienced as me.
I want a job I can be proud of, I enjoy doing and gives me financial security.
Is Grad school and University connected at all or something? I literally know nothing of Grad school.
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On June 09 2011 11:47 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 11:46 Rasun wrote:
Dude I really wish I could post as much as you do, Your in literally every thread I read. Keep it up, and congratz on masters. No you don't. Imagine what you are doing productive in life while I banter and trivialize my worth by preoccupying myself with the forums. Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 10:46 Probulous wrote:On June 09 2011 08:11 Torte de Lini wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 09 2011 07:56 Lysenko wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 03:29 Torte de Lini wrote:
I can't change degrees because I'm already one year into it, so I have to try and make due with it. I don't like the idea of uncertainty, I don't think anyone does, but I have a real social insecurity about it. Believe me, you can almost certainly change majors one year in with no problem. (I mean, if you wanted to switch to a physical science or engineering you might have some issues catching up, but many majors should be perfectly accessible). Yeah, you'll need to catch up on a few things and maybe take a heavier course load for a few terms, but better now than later. Even so, why are you so worried about your major in college? It doesn't have to be related to what you do for a living. Here's a hint: if you want to do something other than what you're majoring in, spend your summers interning for people who do something more to your taste. Being a sociology major won't be a problem at all. You can't finish most of the other majors because you have to take certain requisites before moving onto the other courses. Meaning they systematically set it so you have to waste a whole semester doing two courses in order to have access to four other courses. The reason I can do Sociology in two years is because of how loose and free it is, something I can't say for all other majors. I have 3 years to finish my major, but I can do it in two and focus on my minor in the last year without a problem. Even so, why are you so worried about your major in college? It doesn't have to be related to what you do for a living. Because it's the only sense of direction I have. Here's a hint: if you want to do something other than what you're majoring in, spend your summers interning for people who do something more to your taste. Being a sociology major won't be a problem at all. I am not allowed to do internships or jobs during the summer as part of the tuition agreement (and another reason). All my summers are booked finishing my major as fast as possible (This summer, I'm doing 3 courses in Sociology). Well Torte, you seem to be going through what pretty much every college student goes through. The light at the end of the tunnel is getting pretty fuzzy and you're not sure what it leads to. All I can say is that I completed a BSc in computing and genetics but ended up working for a city council procesing gambling license applications for a year. I had a career goal during my study, I wanted to get into the pharmaceutical industry but wasn't able to after I graduated. I decided to travel for a year but got stuck in Birmingham, UK, working the council. However the experience I gained implementing new processes there is what allowed me to get into Pharma when I got back to Aus. This point in my life I still marvel at. It is almost ironic that my years of planning counted for little but my year of random fun got me the job. Now I am studying my masters part time to move into an economics role. Don't apologize about writing an essay, look at my blogs, they're too long. You seem to know what skills you want to use, perhaps all you need is a little information of what jobs will allow you to use them. You don't have to get a summer job to find out what people do in the industries you are looking into. Any connections you make at college are priceless. Show a little proactivity and find someone with a job you want. Ask them what you need to do to get that role. You seem to have started this already which is awesome. You're a smart guy, so you probably know that unless you are looking at graduate school your major doesn't really mean much. All it does is show employers what skills you have developed. I honestly believe that if you know what kind of things you want to do in your job, the rest becomes clearer. Good luck mate, keep the blogs coming. PS Sorry for the essay. I have the same problem with brevity. Yeah, I think you're right. I know very little of the job market and its ranges. I just don't want to be stuck doing something I hate and I guess that's an unrealistic, but real reasoning with someone as young and inexperienced as me. I want a job I can be proud of, I enjoy doing and gives me financial security. Is Grad school and University connected at all or something? I literally know nothing of Grad school.
Well a job you can be proud of is really just doing what you like and not working for an asshole company. I would have a guess that what you mean is you want to be proud of your work, slightly different.
I really think it would be good to list what skills you want to use on a daily basis. For me, I love detailed problem solving, I am not great at social organising and prefer to work independently. I have always enjoyed number crunching and love reading science articles.
=> Health economist here I come.
As Billy said "No thine self". If you don't know what you like doing then finding the right job is very difficult.
As for grad school -> university thing. In Aus at least once you complete your undergraduate degree you can apply for post-graduate study. I didn't do this and it was the best thing for me. I went back to post-graduate study once I had a stable job and was earning enough to live on my own. I did it for a very specific reason which helps immensely with motivation. Will be done in a year.
In short, you are young, so am I btw, and it doesn't really matter what your plan is just yet. If direction will make you feel better than try finding information on careers that will suit the skills you want to use.
Grats on Masters and I look forward to your next blog.
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Hm. I've spoken to a lot of people in your situation where they're at university and they're not sure what they can or want to do after they graduate.
The basic premise I tell everyone is this: Unless you're going for an ultra-specialise career such as medicine where your absolutely have to have done that degree, pretty much any job is viable. There are a lot more options than there used to be before, especially since you have specialised conversion courses and training available. What matters the most is that you can demonstrate you're intelligent and willing to work hard. Ultimately, the biggest thing you really get from a university degree now-a-days is a skill set for critical thinking and "getting shit done".
Good examples off the top of my head include Law and Accounting. While degrees in those subjects do help, showing a lot of interest and proving you can work hard is what a lot of employers want now. What you think is not terribly important in most cases. You can teach people subject material. What is more important is how you think and approach problems. That's not something you can really teach.
For large multinationals, they tend to hire specialised companies that offer training subject fields so when you join them they pay for you to attend private classes where you learn the subject material. Like, if you've never done accounting before they give you these ultra-condensed crash-courses and rigorous training and you don't have to pay for it. You also get on-the-job training in your day to day work too.
What you need to do is consider what skills you have any why you deserve to be hired. I don't always comment on your blogs, but I do read them. And you strike me as a pretty smart guy. I haven't done a lot of sociology, but I have friends who do and some of that material can be pretty hard. There's also a lot of critical thinking involved in things like evaluation and comparisons. Take advantage of that. Those are skillsets used in everything from marketing to management and more.
You've still got a while till you graduate to just look around in general and see what;s out there for now. Maybe go to some job fairs. Your university should hold some, or at least advertise some. Find something interesting, and then think why you deserve that spot more than other people.
Good luck.
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On June 09 2011 12:34 Probulous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 11:47 Torte de Lini wrote:On June 09 2011 11:46 Rasun wrote:
Dude I really wish I could post as much as you do, Your in literally every thread I read. Keep it up, and congratz on masters. No you don't. Imagine what you are doing productive in life while I banter and trivialize my worth by preoccupying myself with the forums. On June 09 2011 10:46 Probulous wrote:On June 09 2011 08:11 Torte de Lini wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 09 2011 07:56 Lysenko wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 03:29 Torte de Lini wrote:
I can't change degrees because I'm already one year into it, so I have to try and make due with it. I don't like the idea of uncertainty, I don't think anyone does, but I have a real social insecurity about it. Believe me, you can almost certainly change majors one year in with no problem. (I mean, if you wanted to switch to a physical science or engineering you might have some issues catching up, but many majors should be perfectly accessible). Yeah, you'll need to catch up on a few things and maybe take a heavier course load for a few terms, but better now than later. Even so, why are you so worried about your major in college? It doesn't have to be related to what you do for a living. Here's a hint: if you want to do something other than what you're majoring in, spend your summers interning for people who do something more to your taste. Being a sociology major won't be a problem at all. You can't finish most of the other majors because you have to take certain requisites before moving onto the other courses. Meaning they systematically set it so you have to waste a whole semester doing two courses in order to have access to four other courses. The reason I can do Sociology in two years is because of how loose and free it is, something I can't say for all other majors. I have 3 years to finish my major, but I can do it in two and focus on my minor in the last year without a problem. Even so, why are you so worried about your major in college? It doesn't have to be related to what you do for a living. Because it's the only sense of direction I have. Here's a hint: if you want to do something other than what you're majoring in, spend your summers interning for people who do something more to your taste. Being a sociology major won't be a problem at all. I am not allowed to do internships or jobs during the summer as part of the tuition agreement (and another reason). All my summers are booked finishing my major as fast as possible (This summer, I'm doing 3 courses in Sociology). Well Torte, you seem to be going through what pretty much every college student goes through. The light at the end of the tunnel is getting pretty fuzzy and you're not sure what it leads to. All I can say is that I completed a BSc in computing and genetics but ended up working for a city council procesing gambling license applications for a year. I had a career goal during my study, I wanted to get into the pharmaceutical industry but wasn't able to after I graduated. I decided to travel for a year but got stuck in Birmingham, UK, working the council. However the experience I gained implementing new processes there is what allowed me to get into Pharma when I got back to Aus. This point in my life I still marvel at. It is almost ironic that my years of planning counted for little but my year of random fun got me the job. Now I am studying my masters part time to move into an economics role. Don't apologize about writing an essay, look at my blogs, they're too long. You seem to know what skills you want to use, perhaps all you need is a little information of what jobs will allow you to use them. You don't have to get a summer job to find out what people do in the industries you are looking into. Any connections you make at college are priceless. Show a little proactivity and find someone with a job you want. Ask them what you need to do to get that role. You seem to have started this already which is awesome. You're a smart guy, so you probably know that unless you are looking at graduate school your major doesn't really mean much. All it does is show employers what skills you have developed. I honestly believe that if you know what kind of things you want to do in your job, the rest becomes clearer. Good luck mate, keep the blogs coming. PS Sorry for the essay. I have the same problem with brevity. Yeah, I think you're right. I know very little of the job market and its ranges. I just don't want to be stuck doing something I hate and I guess that's an unrealistic, but real reasoning with someone as young and inexperienced as me. I want a job I can be proud of, I enjoy doing and gives me financial security. Is Grad school and University connected at all or something? I literally know nothing of Grad school. Well a job you can be proud of is really just doing what you like and not working for an asshole company. I would have a guess that what you mean is you want to be proud of your work, slightly different. I really think it would be good to list what skills you want to use on a daily basis. For me, I love detailed problem solving, I am not great at social organising and prefer to work independently. I have always enjoyed number crunching and love reading science articles. => Health economist here I come. As Billy said "No thine self". If you don't know what you like doing then finding the right job is very difficult. As for grad school -> university thing. In Aus at least once you complete your undergraduate degree you can apply for post-graduate study. I didn't do this and it was the best thing for me. I went back to post-graduate study once I had a stable job and was earning enough to live on my own. I did it for a very specific reason which helps immensely with motivation. Will be done in a year. In short, you are young, so am I btw, and it doesn't really matter what your plan is just yet. If direction will make you feel better than try finding information on careers that will suit the skills you want to use. Grats on Masters and I look forward to your next blog.
Yeah, that is what I mean actually. I want to see something or show something that tell others that this is what I contributed to, it helped grow the bigger picture and I'm really proud of it.
I like using my administrative/directorial skills, writing and/or editing, socialization via public speeches or presentations and interaction with the community. This sounds like a lot of potential jobs, but I can't seem to think any. It's just so broad and it eludes me of any specific career path that is possible.
What does Grad school do? Can I do grad school of a completely different discipline than what I majored in University?
Also, thank you. but I preferred Diamond to be quite frank :3
I have an idea about my next blog, but I'll refrain for now. Cheers!
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Cool blog man. Like some other guy said, you're a posting machine. I don't know where you get the time :o
Why don't you switch majors? Or go into SC. I actually almost always criticize the blogs where people say "I'm dropping out of school and playing SC 12 hours a day. Wish me luck, see you at the next GSL", but for some reason I feel like recommending it to you. It's obvious that you have a lot of free time, and masters zerg is pretty really good. Look at destiny, he makes a living and he just got into grand masters. If you really enjoy it, I think you're one of the guys who could do well with it.
Good luck with whatever man. PM me if you're going to any lans in the future and we can meet up .
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On June 09 2011 12:39 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 12:34 Probulous wrote:On June 09 2011 11:47 Torte de Lini wrote:On June 09 2011 11:46 Rasun wrote:
Dude I really wish I could post as much as you do, Your in literally every thread I read. Keep it up, and congratz on masters. No you don't. Imagine what you are doing productive in life while I banter and trivialize my worth by preoccupying myself with the forums. On June 09 2011 10:46 Probulous wrote:On June 09 2011 08:11 Torte de Lini wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 09 2011 07:56 Lysenko wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 03:29 Torte de Lini wrote:
I can't change degrees because I'm already one year into it, so I have to try and make due with it. I don't like the idea of uncertainty, I don't think anyone does, but I have a real social insecurity about it. Believe me, you can almost certainly change majors one year in with no problem. (I mean, if you wanted to switch to a physical science or engineering you might have some issues catching up, but many majors should be perfectly accessible). Yeah, you'll need to catch up on a few things and maybe take a heavier course load for a few terms, but better now than later. Even so, why are you so worried about your major in college? It doesn't have to be related to what you do for a living. Here's a hint: if you want to do something other than what you're majoring in, spend your summers interning for people who do something more to your taste. Being a sociology major won't be a problem at all. You can't finish most of the other majors because you have to take certain requisites before moving onto the other courses. Meaning they systematically set it so you have to waste a whole semester doing two courses in order to have access to four other courses. The reason I can do Sociology in two years is because of how loose and free it is, something I can't say for all other majors. I have 3 years to finish my major, but I can do it in two and focus on my minor in the last year without a problem. Even so, why are you so worried about your major in college? It doesn't have to be related to what you do for a living. Because it's the only sense of direction I have. Here's a hint: if you want to do something other than what you're majoring in, spend your summers interning for people who do something more to your taste. Being a sociology major won't be a problem at all. I am not allowed to do internships or jobs during the summer as part of the tuition agreement (and another reason). All my summers are booked finishing my major as fast as possible (This summer, I'm doing 3 courses in Sociology). Well Torte, you seem to be going through what pretty much every college student goes through. The light at the end of the tunnel is getting pretty fuzzy and you're not sure what it leads to. All I can say is that I completed a BSc in computing and genetics but ended up working for a city council procesing gambling license applications for a year. I had a career goal during my study, I wanted to get into the pharmaceutical industry but wasn't able to after I graduated. I decided to travel for a year but got stuck in Birmingham, UK, working the council. However the experience I gained implementing new processes there is what allowed me to get into Pharma when I got back to Aus. This point in my life I still marvel at. It is almost ironic that my years of planning counted for little but my year of random fun got me the job. Now I am studying my masters part time to move into an economics role. Don't apologize about writing an essay, look at my blogs, they're too long. You seem to know what skills you want to use, perhaps all you need is a little information of what jobs will allow you to use them. You don't have to get a summer job to find out what people do in the industries you are looking into. Any connections you make at college are priceless. Show a little proactivity and find someone with a job you want. Ask them what you need to do to get that role. You seem to have started this already which is awesome. You're a smart guy, so you probably know that unless you are looking at graduate school your major doesn't really mean much. All it does is show employers what skills you have developed. I honestly believe that if you know what kind of things you want to do in your job, the rest becomes clearer. Good luck mate, keep the blogs coming. PS Sorry for the essay. I have the same problem with brevity. Yeah, I think you're right. I know very little of the job market and its ranges. I just don't want to be stuck doing something I hate and I guess that's an unrealistic, but real reasoning with someone as young and inexperienced as me. I want a job I can be proud of, I enjoy doing and gives me financial security. Is Grad school and University connected at all or something? I literally know nothing of Grad school. Well a job you can be proud of is really just doing what you like and not working for an asshole company. I would have a guess that what you mean is you want to be proud of your work, slightly different. I really think it would be good to list what skills you want to use on a daily basis. For me, I love detailed problem solving, I am not great at social organising and prefer to work independently. I have always enjoyed number crunching and love reading science articles. => Health economist here I come. As Billy said "No thine self". If you don't know what you like doing then finding the right job is very difficult. As for grad school -> university thing. In Aus at least once you complete your undergraduate degree you can apply for post-graduate study. I didn't do this and it was the best thing for me. I went back to post-graduate study once I had a stable job and was earning enough to live on my own. I did it for a very specific reason which helps immensely with motivation. Will be done in a year. In short, you are young, so am I btw, and it doesn't really matter what your plan is just yet. If direction will make you feel better than try finding information on careers that will suit the skills you want to use. Grats on Masters and I look forward to your next blog. Yeah, that is what I mean actually. I want to see something or show something that tell others that this is what I contributed to, it helped grow the bigger picture and I'm really proud of it.
Well, like I said as long you don't work a tobacco company you'll be sweet with this. Every company produces something and the good ones show employees exactly how they contributed.
I like using my administrative/directorial skills, writing and/or editing, socialization via public speeches or presentations and interaction with the community. This sounds like a lot of potential jobs, but I can't seem to think any. It's just so broad and it eludes me of any specific career path that is possible.
Well you are right in terms of the broad nature of what you like doing but I would argue that this is not a bad thing. Those skills are sort after skills and can be applied to any industry. Hell even waste disposal needs a spoke-person  I would suggest chatting to your career's office.
As mentioned it might be an idea to approach companies that you admire and just see what they suggest. The career fair is a great idea.
What does Grad school do? Can I do grad school of a completely different discipline than what I majored in University?
Grad school is just extra study. Normally you can apply to do the following.
Honours
Graduate certificate
Graduate Diploma
Masters
PHD
The structure of the courses is normally that Honours, Masters and PHD require some research thesis and the others are just extra subjects you do after graduation. It is normally where you specialise in a particular area and I would strongly advise you to avoid grad school unless you are certain what you want to specialise in. As for whether you can do grad school in a non-related major I am not sure.
For me, there was no pre-requisites but that is because of the particular course I took. In Aus there is a real push for people to re-train so there are a lot of options to specialise whilst you are working. Again, chat to your career's office.
Also, thank you. but I preferred Diamond to be quite frank :3
I have an idea about my next blog, but I'll refrain for now. Cheers!
No sweat mate, have a great day. I look forward to reading the next installment
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On June 09 2011 12:51 Lexpar wrote:Cool blog man. Like some other guy said, you're a posting machine. I don't know where you get the time :o Why don't you switch majors? Or go into SC. I actually almost always criticize the blogs where people say "I'm dropping out of school and playing SC 12 hours a day. Wish me luck, see you at the next GSL", but for some reason I feel like recommending it to you. It's obvious that you have a lot of free time, and masters zerg is pretty really good. Look at destiny, he makes a living and he just got into grand masters. If you really enjoy it, I think you're one of the guys who could do well with it. Good luck with whatever man. PM me if you're going to any lans in the future and we can meet up .
Because I need a degree in three years to satisfy my parents demands since they're paying for my tuition. Plus, I don't have the GPA for psychology, so I can't switch.
I actually have no free time. A lot of the things I do is online (writing my papers, doing my personal business, taxes, etc). Additionally, I need to stay in school for other personal reasons thus why I can't quit.
I also don't have the patience for Starcraft II, I get very frustrated, mad and agitated at the game and it severely detriments my life (I get irritated at others, I become lazy and fixated, anti-social). But I do love the game, the respectful/civil community etc. To compensate, I do some mild casting and try and contribute where I can.
Destiny's is one-of-a-kind. I'm more happy being able to watch him then to do what he does :B
Lexpar, I am going to this LAN potentially (they used to sponsor my StarCraft university club: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=228868 and I do commentating for LAN ETS (the biggest LAN in Quebec), which I suggest you go :3 (I'm dragging Xxio to go next time!)
What school do you go to?
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On June 09 2011 12:59 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 12:51 Lexpar wrote:Cool blog man. Like some other guy said, you're a posting machine. I don't know where you get the time :o Why don't you switch majors? Or go into SC. I actually almost always criticize the blogs where people say "I'm dropping out of school and playing SC 12 hours a day. Wish me luck, see you at the next GSL", but for some reason I feel like recommending it to you. It's obvious that you have a lot of free time, and masters zerg is pretty really good. Look at destiny, he makes a living and he just got into grand masters. If you really enjoy it, I think you're one of the guys who could do well with it. Good luck with whatever man. PM me if you're going to any lans in the future and we can meet up . Because I need a degree in three years to satisfy my parents demands since they're paying for my tuition. Plus, I don't have the GPA for psychology, so I can't switch. I actually have no free time. A lot of the things I do is online (writing my papers, doing my personal business, taxes, etc). Additionally, I need to stay in school for other personal reasons thus why I can't quit. I also don't have the patience for Starcraft II, I get very frustrated, mad and agitated at the game and it severely detriments my life (I get irritated at others, I become lazy and fixated, anti-social). But I do love the game, the respectful/civil community etc. To compensate, I do some mild casting and try and contribute where I can. Destiny's is one-of-a-kind. I'm more happy being able to watch him then to do what he does :B Lexpar, I am going to this LAN potentially (they used to sponsor my StarCraft university club: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=228868 and I do commentating for LAN ETS (the biggest LAN in Quebec), which I suggest you go :3 (I'm dragging Xxio to go next time!) What school do you go to?
No can do man. Working as a counselor at a summer camp in St.Donat starting in a few days. It kind of sucks, but I need the job and the money. When is LanETS 2012? Their website was down last time I checked, and it looks like now they're preaching some nerd stuff to me. Anyway, in the spring I'll be going to Vanier.
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On June 09 2011 12:53 Probulous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 12:39 Torte de Lini wrote:On June 09 2011 12:34 Probulous wrote:On June 09 2011 11:47 Torte de Lini wrote:On June 09 2011 11:46 Rasun wrote:
Dude I really wish I could post as much as you do, Your in literally every thread I read. Keep it up, and congratz on masters. No you don't. Imagine what you are doing productive in life while I banter and trivialize my worth by preoccupying myself with the forums. On June 09 2011 10:46 Probulous wrote:On June 09 2011 08:11 Torte de Lini wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 09 2011 07:56 Lysenko wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 03:29 Torte de Lini wrote:
I can't change degrees because I'm already one year into it, so I have to try and make due with it. I don't like the idea of uncertainty, I don't think anyone does, but I have a real social insecurity about it. Believe me, you can almost certainly change majors one year in with no problem. (I mean, if you wanted to switch to a physical science or engineering you might have some issues catching up, but many majors should be perfectly accessible). Yeah, you'll need to catch up on a few things and maybe take a heavier course load for a few terms, but better now than later. Even so, why are you so worried about your major in college? It doesn't have to be related to what you do for a living. Here's a hint: if you want to do something other than what you're majoring in, spend your summers interning for people who do something more to your taste. Being a sociology major won't be a problem at all. You can't finish most of the other majors because you have to take certain requisites before moving onto the other courses. Meaning they systematically set it so you have to waste a whole semester doing two courses in order to have access to four other courses. The reason I can do Sociology in two years is because of how loose and free it is, something I can't say for all other majors. I have 3 years to finish my major, but I can do it in two and focus on my minor in the last year without a problem. Even so, why are you so worried about your major in college? It doesn't have to be related to what you do for a living. Because it's the only sense of direction I have. Here's a hint: if you want to do something other than what you're majoring in, spend your summers interning for people who do something more to your taste. Being a sociology major won't be a problem at all. I am not allowed to do internships or jobs during the summer as part of the tuition agreement (and another reason). All my summers are booked finishing my major as fast as possible (This summer, I'm doing 3 courses in Sociology). Well Torte, you seem to be going through what pretty much every college student goes through. The light at the end of the tunnel is getting pretty fuzzy and you're not sure what it leads to. All I can say is that I completed a BSc in computing and genetics but ended up working for a city council procesing gambling license applications for a year. I had a career goal during my study, I wanted to get into the pharmaceutical industry but wasn't able to after I graduated. I decided to travel for a year but got stuck in Birmingham, UK, working the council. However the experience I gained implementing new processes there is what allowed me to get into Pharma when I got back to Aus. This point in my life I still marvel at. It is almost ironic that my years of planning counted for little but my year of random fun got me the job. Now I am studying my masters part time to move into an economics role. Don't apologize about writing an essay, look at my blogs, they're too long. You seem to know what skills you want to use, perhaps all you need is a little information of what jobs will allow you to use them. You don't have to get a summer job to find out what people do in the industries you are looking into. Any connections you make at college are priceless. Show a little proactivity and find someone with a job you want. Ask them what you need to do to get that role. You seem to have started this already which is awesome. You're a smart guy, so you probably know that unless you are looking at graduate school your major doesn't really mean much. All it does is show employers what skills you have developed. I honestly believe that if you know what kind of things you want to do in your job, the rest becomes clearer. Good luck mate, keep the blogs coming. PS Sorry for the essay. I have the same problem with brevity. Yeah, I think you're right. I know very little of the job market and its ranges. I just don't want to be stuck doing something I hate and I guess that's an unrealistic, but real reasoning with someone as young and inexperienced as me. I want a job I can be proud of, I enjoy doing and gives me financial security. Is Grad school and University connected at all or something? I literally know nothing of Grad school. Well a job you can be proud of is really just doing what you like and not working for an asshole company. I would have a guess that what you mean is you want to be proud of your work, slightly different. I really think it would be good to list what skills you want to use on a daily basis. For me, I love detailed problem solving, I am not great at social organising and prefer to work independently. I have always enjoyed number crunching and love reading science articles. => Health economist here I come. As Billy said "No thine self". If you don't know what you like doing then finding the right job is very difficult. As for grad school -> university thing. In Aus at least once you complete your undergraduate degree you can apply for post-graduate study. I didn't do this and it was the best thing for me. I went back to post-graduate study once I had a stable job and was earning enough to live on my own. I did it for a very specific reason which helps immensely with motivation. Will be done in a year. In short, you are young, so am I btw, and it doesn't really matter what your plan is just yet. If direction will make you feel better than try finding information on careers that will suit the skills you want to use. Grats on Masters and I look forward to your next blog. Yeah, that is what I mean actually. I want to see something or show something that tell others that this is what I contributed to, it helped grow the bigger picture and I'm really proud of it. Well, like I said as long you don't work a tobacco company you'll be sweet with this. Every company produces something and the good ones show employees exactly how they contributed. Show nested quote +I like using my administrative/directorial skills, writing and/or editing, socialization via public speeches or presentations and interaction with the community. This sounds like a lot of potential jobs, but I can't seem to think any. It's just so broad and it eludes me of any specific career path that is possible. Well you are right in terms of the broad nature of what you like doing but I would argue that this is not a bad thing. Those skills are sort after skills and can be applied to any industry. Hell even waste disposal needs a spoke-person I would suggest chatting to your career's office. As mentioned it might be an idea to approach companies that you admire and just see what they suggest. The career fair is a great idea. Show nested quote +What does Grad school do? Can I do grad school of a completely different discipline than what I majored in University? Grad school is just extra study. Normally you can apply to do the following. Honours Graduate certificate Graduate Diploma Masters PHD The structure of the courses is normally that Honours, Masters and PHD require some research thesis and the others are just extra subjects you do after graduation. It is normally where you specialise in a particular area and I would strongly advise you to avoid grad school unless you are certain what you want to specialise in. As for whether you can do grad school in a non-related major I am not sure. For me, there was no pre-requisites but that is because of the particular course I took. In Aus there is a real push for people to re-train so there are a lot of options to specialise whilst you are working. Again, chat to your career's office. Show nested quote +Also, thank you. but I preferred Diamond to be quite frank :3
I have an idea about my next blog, but I'll refrain for now. Cheers! No sweat mate, have a great day. I look forward to reading the next installment
Well, like I said as long you don't work a tobacco company you'll be sweet with this. Every company produces something and the good ones show employees exactly how they contributed.
I don't mind working at a Tobacco company. I'm against smoking, but I don't have a problem working there.
Well you are right in terms of the broad nature of what you like doing but I would argue that this is not a bad thing. Those skills are sort after skills and can be applied to any industry. Hell even waste disposal needs a spoke-person I would suggest chatting to your career's office.
As mentioned it might be an idea to approach companies that you admire and just see what they suggest. The career fair is a great idea.
I've started writing feedback to companies I like. I spoke with Valve on the phone, Boylan bottle company (I love their cane sugar soda) and a few other places, though I doubt they will remember me after a month or so.
Not idea what a career office is. But I bet they'll tell me to take time off and figure out what I want, which isn't really an option at this point in time (maybe when I finish school).
Thanks a lot for walking me through, I really appreciate it!
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On June 09 2011 13:06 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 12:53 Probulous wrote:On June 09 2011 12:39 Torte de Lini wrote:On June 09 2011 12:34 Probulous wrote:On June 09 2011 11:47 Torte de Lini wrote:On June 09 2011 11:46 Rasun wrote:
Dude I really wish I could post as much as you do, Your in literally every thread I read. Keep it up, and congratz on masters. No you don't. Imagine what you are doing productive in life while I banter and trivialize my worth by preoccupying myself with the forums. On June 09 2011 10:46 Probulous wrote:On June 09 2011 08:11 Torte de Lini wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 09 2011 07:56 Lysenko wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 03:29 Torte de Lini wrote:
I can't change degrees because I'm already one year into it, so I have to try and make due with it. I don't like the idea of uncertainty, I don't think anyone does, but I have a real social insecurity about it. Believe me, you can almost certainly change majors one year in with no problem. (I mean, if you wanted to switch to a physical science or engineering you might have some issues catching up, but many majors should be perfectly accessible). Yeah, you'll need to catch up on a few things and maybe take a heavier course load for a few terms, but better now than later. Even so, why are you so worried about your major in college? It doesn't have to be related to what you do for a living. Here's a hint: if you want to do something other than what you're majoring in, spend your summers interning for people who do something more to your taste. Being a sociology major won't be a problem at all. You can't finish most of the other majors because you have to take certain requisites before moving onto the other courses. Meaning they systematically set it so you have to waste a whole semester doing two courses in order to have access to four other courses. The reason I can do Sociology in two years is because of how loose and free it is, something I can't say for all other majors. I have 3 years to finish my major, but I can do it in two and focus on my minor in the last year without a problem. Even so, why are you so worried about your major in college? It doesn't have to be related to what you do for a living. Because it's the only sense of direction I have. Here's a hint: if you want to do something other than what you're majoring in, spend your summers interning for people who do something more to your taste. Being a sociology major won't be a problem at all. I am not allowed to do internships or jobs during the summer as part of the tuition agreement (and another reason). All my summers are booked finishing my major as fast as possible (This summer, I'm doing 3 courses in Sociology). Well Torte, you seem to be going through what pretty much every college student goes through. The light at the end of the tunnel is getting pretty fuzzy and you're not sure what it leads to. All I can say is that I completed a BSc in computing and genetics but ended up working for a city council procesing gambling license applications for a year. I had a career goal during my study, I wanted to get into the pharmaceutical industry but wasn't able to after I graduated. I decided to travel for a year but got stuck in Birmingham, UK, working the council. However the experience I gained implementing new processes there is what allowed me to get into Pharma when I got back to Aus. This point in my life I still marvel at. It is almost ironic that my years of planning counted for little but my year of random fun got me the job. Now I am studying my masters part time to move into an economics role. Don't apologize about writing an essay, look at my blogs, they're too long. You seem to know what skills you want to use, perhaps all you need is a little information of what jobs will allow you to use them. You don't have to get a summer job to find out what people do in the industries you are looking into. Any connections you make at college are priceless. Show a little proactivity and find someone with a job you want. Ask them what you need to do to get that role. You seem to have started this already which is awesome. You're a smart guy, so you probably know that unless you are looking at graduate school your major doesn't really mean much. All it does is show employers what skills you have developed. I honestly believe that if you know what kind of things you want to do in your job, the rest becomes clearer. Good luck mate, keep the blogs coming. PS Sorry for the essay. I have the same problem with brevity. Yeah, I think you're right. I know very little of the job market and its ranges. I just don't want to be stuck doing something I hate and I guess that's an unrealistic, but real reasoning with someone as young and inexperienced as me. I want a job I can be proud of, I enjoy doing and gives me financial security. Is Grad school and University connected at all or something? I literally know nothing of Grad school. Well a job you can be proud of is really just doing what you like and not working for an asshole company. I would have a guess that what you mean is you want to be proud of your work, slightly different. I really think it would be good to list what skills you want to use on a daily basis. For me, I love detailed problem solving, I am not great at social organising and prefer to work independently. I have always enjoyed number crunching and love reading science articles. => Health economist here I come. As Billy said "No thine self". If you don't know what you like doing then finding the right job is very difficult. As for grad school -> university thing. In Aus at least once you complete your undergraduate degree you can apply for post-graduate study. I didn't do this and it was the best thing for me. I went back to post-graduate study once I had a stable job and was earning enough to live on my own. I did it for a very specific reason which helps immensely with motivation. Will be done in a year. In short, you are young, so am I btw, and it doesn't really matter what your plan is just yet. If direction will make you feel better than try finding information on careers that will suit the skills you want to use. Grats on Masters and I look forward to your next blog. Yeah, that is what I mean actually. I want to see something or show something that tell others that this is what I contributed to, it helped grow the bigger picture and I'm really proud of it. Well, like I said as long you don't work a tobacco company you'll be sweet with this. Every company produces something and the good ones show employees exactly how they contributed. I like using my administrative/directorial skills, writing and/or editing, socialization via public speeches or presentations and interaction with the community. This sounds like a lot of potential jobs, but I can't seem to think any. It's just so broad and it eludes me of any specific career path that is possible. Well you are right in terms of the broad nature of what you like doing but I would argue that this is not a bad thing. Those skills are sort after skills and can be applied to any industry. Hell even waste disposal needs a spoke-person I would suggest chatting to your career's office. As mentioned it might be an idea to approach companies that you admire and just see what they suggest. The career fair is a great idea. What does Grad school do? Can I do grad school of a completely different discipline than what I majored in University? Grad school is just extra study. Normally you can apply to do the following. Honours Graduate certificate Graduate Diploma Masters PHD The structure of the courses is normally that Honours, Masters and PHD require some research thesis and the others are just extra subjects you do after graduation. It is normally where you specialise in a particular area and I would strongly advise you to avoid grad school unless you are certain what you want to specialise in. As for whether you can do grad school in a non-related major I am not sure. For me, there was no pre-requisites but that is because of the particular course I took. In Aus there is a real push for people to re-train so there are a lot of options to specialise whilst you are working. Again, chat to your career's office. Also, thank you. but I preferred Diamond to be quite frank :3
I have an idea about my next blog, but I'll refrain for now. Cheers! No sweat mate, have a great day. I look forward to reading the next installment Show nested quote +Well, like I said as long you don't work a tobacco company you'll be sweet with this. Every company produces something and the good ones show employees exactly how they contributed. I don't mind working at a Tobacco company. I'm against smoking, but I don't have a problem working there. Show nested quote +Well you are right in terms of the broad nature of what you like doing but I would argue that this is not a bad thing. Those skills are sort after skills and can be applied to any industry. Hell even waste disposal needs a spoke-person I would suggest chatting to your career's office.
As mentioned it might be an idea to approach companies that you admire and just see what they suggest. The career fair is a great idea. I've started writing feedback to companies I like. I spoke with Valve on the phone, Boylan bottle company (I love their cane sugar soda) and a few other places, though I doubt they will remember me after a month or so.
That is not really the point. The point is you need to know what you need to make an impression later. What do they look for in a recent graduate? Bare in mind anything you do additional to your university studies is gold for your resume. The idea is for you to gain insight into them, not the other way around.
Not idea what a career office is. But I bet they'll tell me to take time off and figure out what I want, which isn't really an option at this point in time (maybe when I finish school).
A career office is the department at your university responsible for helping students decide on future careers. I am not sure if they have them in Canada but I would imagine they are the ones organising the career fairs. I would seriously doubt they would just say to take a break, more likely they would give you some idea of where to find useful information. Trust me it is worth the try. They are the gate-keepers to firms that are interested in students, just by seeing them you place yourself in a better position than those that don't.
Thanks a lot for walking me through, I really appreciate it!
Not a problem, I went through the same thing, and still do sometimes. This is just what works for me. Besides you're a funny bastard and that is always welcome around here. This is the least I can do.
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