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On June 10 2011 03:42 Ganjamaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2011 03:27 Ballack wrote:On June 10 2011 02:18 Ganjamaster wrote:On June 10 2011 02:01 TYJ.Aoy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 10 2011 00:22 Ganjamaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 16:41 StarBrift wrote:
I don't really know why this makes me so angry. Usually I can detach from these kinds of deals but I guess when you idolize a player it's harder to detach. I'm literally fuming about some of the attitudes people have here and more commonly on reddit about this.
The attitude that "LOL this dude is a loser and a whimp why doesnt he act out" is actually so detestable that it's hard to put into words. If someone gave that attitude to me after my girlfriend had lied and fucked around this way I would probably give that person the beatdown of their life. In what world is it ok to be such an incredibly inhumane douchebag fratboy that you actually say such shit. Would you preffer it if he was "cool and badass" and bought a gun and gunned down our well loved gamers? Is that the kind of reaction that makes him a man instead of a wimp? God that attitude is despicable. Regardless of whether his actions are unacceptable or not. You do not put a guy on blast for not getting violent with the situation. That is simply retarded. I don´t know about gunning people down, but I think a good old bar brawl was more than warranted if CatZ or any of the guys involved were crossing some lines with his girlfriend. Speaking for myself here, if anyone, regardless of his size or number of his party, continually behaved in a way I deemed inappropriate towards my girlfriend in disregard of any warnings I may give him would be met with the maximum amount of unarmed physical violence available to me swiftly and decisively, without even a hint of consideration for my own physical integrity. Have done so in the past, would do it again. So many stronk alfa males lurking TL, I'm deeply impressed. I do not understand how this makes me "strong" or "alpha" in any way. I just do not see any other possible course of action in this situation if they do not cease and desist from their actions after being given many warnings. You're a savage living in another century. In the West, we don't use violence, we sue people! Now in this case it might not be optimal to do that, so the fellow told the whole story and got a bigillion replies/attention, which has hurt Ret's reputation more than what a "good ol' beating" would have. As for the girl, she is now gonna be known as a slut (in the sc community). Thats just the way it is. I'd say his approach was a lot better than what you suggested in your macho way. Where I am from, the law does not concern itself with trivial matters such as a barfight (unless there serious consequences eg. death, severe injury), or it is too slow and corrupt to be of any use anyway. When people refuse to respect you through simple reasoning and talking, you have to resort to violence to make them respect you, or else they will walk all over you (like what happened to the poor dude in this story). And with regards to hurting Ret´s reputation (just saying ret for the sake of example, could be any given person) I would be much more satisfied pummeling his face into the ground than I would ever be by "hurting his reputation" in an online forum, lol. Additionally, hurting his reputation occurs after the fact, violence will deter the fact from happening or make it worse, depending on the outcome of the fight.
I see no reason for a fight to ever result in less than grievous bodily harm or death, you realise this is why people don't fight in the first place? If you're too weak to do that then you shouldn't be fighting in the first place.
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On June 10 2011 03:56 Maliris wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2011 03:42 Ganjamaster wrote:On June 10 2011 03:27 Ballack wrote:On June 10 2011 02:18 Ganjamaster wrote:On June 10 2011 02:01 TYJ.Aoy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 10 2011 00:22 Ganjamaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 16:41 StarBrift wrote:
I don't really know why this makes me so angry. Usually I can detach from these kinds of deals but I guess when you idolize a player it's harder to detach. I'm literally fuming about some of the attitudes people have here and more commonly on reddit about this.
The attitude that "LOL this dude is a loser and a whimp why doesnt he act out" is actually so detestable that it's hard to put into words. If someone gave that attitude to me after my girlfriend had lied and fucked around this way I would probably give that person the beatdown of their life. In what world is it ok to be such an incredibly inhumane douchebag fratboy that you actually say such shit. Would you preffer it if he was "cool and badass" and bought a gun and gunned down our well loved gamers? Is that the kind of reaction that makes him a man instead of a wimp? God that attitude is despicable. Regardless of whether his actions are unacceptable or not. You do not put a guy on blast for not getting violent with the situation. That is simply retarded. I don´t know about gunning people down, but I think a good old bar brawl was more than warranted if CatZ or any of the guys involved were crossing some lines with his girlfriend. Speaking for myself here, if anyone, regardless of his size or number of his party, continually behaved in a way I deemed inappropriate towards my girlfriend in disregard of any warnings I may give him would be met with the maximum amount of unarmed physical violence available to me swiftly and decisively, without even a hint of consideration for my own physical integrity. Have done so in the past, would do it again. So many stronk alfa males lurking TL, I'm deeply impressed. I do not understand how this makes me "strong" or "alpha" in any way. I just do not see any other possible course of action in this situation if they do not cease and desist from their actions after being given many warnings. You're a savage living in another century. In the West, we don't use violence, we sue people! Now in this case it might not be optimal to do that, so the fellow told the whole story and got a bigillion replies/attention, which has hurt Ret's reputation more than what a "good ol' beating" would have. As for the girl, she is now gonna be known as a slut (in the sc community). Thats just the way it is. I'd say his approach was a lot better than what you suggested in your macho way. Where I am from, the law does not concern itself with trivial matters such as a barfight (unless there serious consequences eg. death, severe injury), or it is too slow and corrupt to be of any use anyway. When people refuse to respect you through simple reasoning and talking, you have to resort to violence to make them respect you, or else they will walk all over you (like what happened to the poor dude in this story). And with regards to hurting Ret´s reputation (just saying ret for the sake of example, could be any given person) I would be much more satisfied pummeling his face into the ground than I would ever be by "hurting his reputation" in an online forum, lol. Additionally, hurting his reputation occurs after the fact, violence will deter the fact from happening or make it worse, depending on the outcome of the fight. I see no reason for a fight to ever result in less than grievous bodily harm or death, you realise this is why people don't fight in the first place? If you're too weak to do that then you shouldn't be fighting in the first place.
I never claimed that, I only claimed that death and grievous bodily harm are the only cases in which argentine law will act with regards to a barfight, as opposed to the U.S. for example where you can be charged with battery by throwing a single punch. Technically you can be sued in Argentina but it would never happen, this is besides the point though.
I am not saying that fighting is the best course of action, I am saying that sometimes it is a necessary course of action if it comes to a point where all other options are exhausted or the actions of the person are serious enough to warrant inmediate retaliation with full force.
For example, if I am at a bar with my girlfriend and a dude purposefully grabs her ass, my inmediate reaction would be to punch him in the face as hard as I can, and continue until he is subdued.
If he were hitting on my girl, I would explain what the situation is and ask him to desist, if he does not comply I would threaten him with the possibility of physical violence. If he continues, then I would fight him, absolutely. But as you can see, there are at least 2 instances prior to that where I am actively trying to avoid the fight. Sometimes, you just cant.
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I can't believe some of you think this will hurt Ret's reputation. What did he honestly do that's so grievous? The only thing I can see that's stupid is he made some dumb puppy love/desperate move trying to fly her out. Other than that, who cares if he made a play at some random chick that lives 3000 miles away from him? If a dude that's willing to pony up $1600 to fly some chick out to see him (in other words very inexperienced with women or desperate, neither of which are qualities that a girl that's worth a damn will find attractive), is able to pick her up then he did this guy a favor.
This has nothing to do with SC other than the fact they were there for a tournament. Good for him bagging the chick regardless of whether she had a boyfriend or not, bad for him taking it way too far afterwards. I've run into plenty of girls that tell me they have boyfriends. Funny how easily the story can change a couple hours later when you find out it's either a defensive mechanism and they're down to do the dirty or they're down regardless. Some of you have a real beta male attitude towards females.
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On June 10 2011 04:24 Disp wrote:
I can't believe some of you think this will hurt Ret's reputation.
Just judging from this thread there are people dissappointed in his behaviour. Its not something one has to believe/think, its something one can see reading this thread.
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Ok, so 20 people are upset about it, and 5,000 probably don't give a crap. Your point? This won't hurt his reputation at all besides making him look inexperienced with women, which is not something uncommon for a young guy, and easily remedied.
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On June 10 2011 04:35 Disp wrote: easily remedied.
Especially in Amsterdam lol
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On June 10 2011 04:35 Disp wrote:
Ok, so 20 people are upset about it, and 5,000 probably don't give a crap. Your point? This won't hurt his reputation at all besides making him look inexperienced with women, which is not something uncommon for a young guy, and easily remedied.
To what degree his reputation is hurt isn't really relevant. What I said was that this hurt his reputation more than what an attempt to hit him in the face would have. He has been to this thread showing obvious concern about it so the fear of losing his reputation is damage in it of itself.
I'm not saying I care, I'm not saying his reputation is forever broken, I quite agree with you how it makes him look. What I would say, though, I'm quite sure not all people who are dissappointed with him will make a post about it.
Let me be clear. I don't give a shit about what that girl and Jos did or did not do. It doesn't affect the way I perceive him. What is certain is that some people took offense to it. Degree is not relevant as to what I said. This "scandal" (lolol) has hurt him more than it has gained him.
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LOL This is something I didn't expect when I entered the world of Starcraft. It's like I'm really reading a shitty tabloid's comment section.
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On June 10 2011 04:03 Ganjamaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2011 03:56 Maliris wrote:On June 10 2011 03:42 Ganjamaster wrote:On June 10 2011 03:27 Ballack wrote:On June 10 2011 02:18 Ganjamaster wrote:On June 10 2011 02:01 TYJ.Aoy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 10 2011 00:22 Ganjamaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 16:41 StarBrift wrote:
I don't really know why this makes me so angry. Usually I can detach from these kinds of deals but I guess when you idolize a player it's harder to detach. I'm literally fuming about some of the attitudes people have here and more commonly on reddit about this.
The attitude that "LOL this dude is a loser and a whimp why doesnt he act out" is actually so detestable that it's hard to put into words. If someone gave that attitude to me after my girlfriend had lied and fucked around this way I would probably give that person the beatdown of their life. In what world is it ok to be such an incredibly inhumane douchebag fratboy that you actually say such shit. Would you preffer it if he was "cool and badass" and bought a gun and gunned down our well loved gamers? Is that the kind of reaction that makes him a man instead of a wimp? God that attitude is despicable. Regardless of whether his actions are unacceptable or not. You do not put a guy on blast for not getting violent with the situation. That is simply retarded. I don´t know about gunning people down, but I think a good old bar brawl was more than warranted if CatZ or any of the guys involved were crossing some lines with his girlfriend. Speaking for myself here, if anyone, regardless of his size or number of his party, continually behaved in a way I deemed inappropriate towards my girlfriend in disregard of any warnings I may give him would be met with the maximum amount of unarmed physical violence available to me swiftly and decisively, without even a hint of consideration for my own physical integrity. Have done so in the past, would do it again. So many stronk alfa males lurking TL, I'm deeply impressed. I do not understand how this makes me "strong" or "alpha" in any way. I just do not see any other possible course of action in this situation if they do not cease and desist from their actions after being given many warnings. You're a savage living in another century. In the West, we don't use violence, we sue people! Now in this case it might not be optimal to do that, so the fellow told the whole story and got a bigillion replies/attention, which has hurt Ret's reputation more than what a "good ol' beating" would have. As for the girl, she is now gonna be known as a slut (in the sc community). Thats just the way it is. I'd say his approach was a lot better than what you suggested in your macho way. Where I am from, the law does not concern itself with trivial matters such as a barfight (unless there serious consequences eg. death, severe injury), or it is too slow and corrupt to be of any use anyway. When people refuse to respect you through simple reasoning and talking, you have to resort to violence to make them respect you, or else they will walk all over you (like what happened to the poor dude in this story). And with regards to hurting Ret´s reputation (just saying ret for the sake of example, could be any given person) I would be much more satisfied pummeling his face into the ground than I would ever be by "hurting his reputation" in an online forum, lol. Additionally, hurting his reputation occurs after the fact, violence will deter the fact from happening or make it worse, depending on the outcome of the fight. I see no reason for a fight to ever result in less than grievous bodily harm or death, you realise this is why people don't fight in the first place? If you're too weak to do that then you shouldn't be fighting in the first place. I never claimed that, I only claimed that death and grievous bodily harm are the only cases in which argentine law will act with regards to a barfight, as opposed to the U.S. for example where you can be charged with battery by throwing a single punch. Technically you can be sued in Argentina but it would never happen, this is besides the point though. I am not saying that fighting is the best course of action, I am saying that sometimes it is a necessary course of action if it comes to a point where all other options are exhausted or the actions of the person are serious enough to warrant inmediate retaliation with full force. For example, if I am at a bar with my girlfriend and a dude purposefully grabs her ass, my inmediate reaction would be to punch him in the face as hard as I can, and continue until he is subdued. If he were hitting on my girl, I would explain what the situation is and ask him to desist, if he does not comply I would threaten him with the possibility of physical violence. If he continues, then I would fight him, absolutely. But as you can see, there are at least 2 instances prior to that where I am actively trying to avoid the fight. Sometimes, you just cant.
only problem is that your analogies here are flawed because they're situations where the guys are making unwarranted passes at your girl. in this situation, the girl is the one who approached and initiated the inappropriate behavior, in which case there's really nothing wrong with the other guy in question's action and has everything to do with the girl. Proper response here wasn't to flip out on Ret/Catz but instead to see the warning signs that your girlfriend doesn't give a flying fuck about you and detach from her immediately. Like, both your scenarios are at least semi-reasonable to me, but I just don't think they're accurate models for talking about what went down here. *shrugs* at least that's my take.
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On June 10 2011 04:58 Mogwai wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2011 04:03 Ganjamaster wrote:On June 10 2011 03:56 Maliris wrote:On June 10 2011 03:42 Ganjamaster wrote:On June 10 2011 03:27 Ballack wrote:On June 10 2011 02:18 Ganjamaster wrote:On June 10 2011 02:01 TYJ.Aoy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 10 2011 00:22 Ganjamaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 16:41 StarBrift wrote:
I don't really know why this makes me so angry. Usually I can detach from these kinds of deals but I guess when you idolize a player it's harder to detach. I'm literally fuming about some of the attitudes people have here and more commonly on reddit about this.
The attitude that "LOL this dude is a loser and a whimp why doesnt he act out" is actually so detestable that it's hard to put into words. If someone gave that attitude to me after my girlfriend had lied and fucked around this way I would probably give that person the beatdown of their life. In what world is it ok to be such an incredibly inhumane douchebag fratboy that you actually say such shit. Would you preffer it if he was "cool and badass" and bought a gun and gunned down our well loved gamers? Is that the kind of reaction that makes him a man instead of a wimp? God that attitude is despicable. Regardless of whether his actions are unacceptable or not. You do not put a guy on blast for not getting violent with the situation. That is simply retarded. I don´t know about gunning people down, but I think a good old bar brawl was more than warranted if CatZ or any of the guys involved were crossing some lines with his girlfriend. Speaking for myself here, if anyone, regardless of his size or number of his party, continually behaved in a way I deemed inappropriate towards my girlfriend in disregard of any warnings I may give him would be met with the maximum amount of unarmed physical violence available to me swiftly and decisively, without even a hint of consideration for my own physical integrity. Have done so in the past, would do it again. So many stronk alfa males lurking TL, I'm deeply impressed. I do not understand how this makes me "strong" or "alpha" in any way. I just do not see any other possible course of action in this situation if they do not cease and desist from their actions after being given many warnings. You're a savage living in another century. In the West, we don't use violence, we sue people! Now in this case it might not be optimal to do that, so the fellow told the whole story and got a bigillion replies/attention, which has hurt Ret's reputation more than what a "good ol' beating" would have. As for the girl, she is now gonna be known as a slut (in the sc community). Thats just the way it is. I'd say his approach was a lot better than what you suggested in your macho way. Where I am from, the law does not concern itself with trivial matters such as a barfight (unless there serious consequences eg. death, severe injury), or it is too slow and corrupt to be of any use anyway. When people refuse to respect you through simple reasoning and talking, you have to resort to violence to make them respect you, or else they will walk all over you (like what happened to the poor dude in this story). And with regards to hurting Ret´s reputation (just saying ret for the sake of example, could be any given person) I would be much more satisfied pummeling his face into the ground than I would ever be by "hurting his reputation" in an online forum, lol. Additionally, hurting his reputation occurs after the fact, violence will deter the fact from happening or make it worse, depending on the outcome of the fight. I see no reason for a fight to ever result in less than grievous bodily harm or death, you realise this is why people don't fight in the first place? If you're too weak to do that then you shouldn't be fighting in the first place. I never claimed that, I only claimed that death and grievous bodily harm are the only cases in which argentine law will act with regards to a barfight, as opposed to the U.S. for example where you can be charged with battery by throwing a single punch. Technically you can be sued in Argentina but it would never happen, this is besides the point though. I am not saying that fighting is the best course of action, I am saying that sometimes it is a necessary course of action if it comes to a point where all other options are exhausted or the actions of the person are serious enough to warrant inmediate retaliation with full force. For example, if I am at a bar with my girlfriend and a dude purposefully grabs her ass, my inmediate reaction would be to punch him in the face as hard as I can, and continue until he is subdued. If he were hitting on my girl, I would explain what the situation is and ask him to desist, if he does not comply I would threaten him with the possibility of physical violence. If he continues, then I would fight him, absolutely. But as you can see, there are at least 2 instances prior to that where I am actively trying to avoid the fight. Sometimes, you just cant. only problem is that your analogies here are flawed because they're situations where the guys are making unwarranted passes at your girl. in this situation, the girl is the one who approached and initiated the inappropriate behavior, in which case there's really nothing wrong with the other guy in question's action and has everything to do with the girl. Proper response here wasn't to flip out on Ret/Catz but instead to see the warning signs that your girlfriend doesn't give a flying fuck about you and detach from her immediately. Like, both your scenarios are at least semi-reasonable to me, but I just don't think they're accurate models for talking about what went down here. *shrugs* at least that's my take.
What should have happened in this situation is:
1) The dude should have spoken to his GF and made his expectations (eg. not flirt with other dudes) perfectly clear.
2) Approached Ret/CatZ and made his position crystal clear.
3) Attempt to resolve the situation with the girl, and if she states she wants to be with Ret/CatZ then of course dump her and carry on with life.
4) If Ret/CatZ attempt to interfere while in the process of figuring out the situation (Eg. white knighting) , tell them not to interfere further.
5) if they interfere further, engage in gradually escalating physical violence until they cease or the girl decides to side with them.
But I would definitely not allow them to hook up with my girlfriend while in my presence, regardless if she wants it or not.
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if you ever have to make the expectation that your girlfriend won't hook up with other guys clear to her, chances are you probably shouldn't be dating said girl. at least that's how I see it.
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On June 10 2011 05:12 Mogwai wrote:
if you ever have to make the expectation that your girlfriend won't hook up with other guys clear to her, chances are you probably shouldn't be dating said girl. at least that's how I see it.
I agree completely, it should never come to that. But, to my knowledge, the situation reached the point I described in my previous post and that is the way I would have handled if I were in that exact same situation.
But I would never let it get to that point, no way, you are 100% right in that.
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On June 10 2011 04:51 Ballack wrote:
To what degree his reputation is hurt isn't really relevant. What I said was that this hurt his reputation more than what an attempt to hit him in the face would have. He has been to this thread showing obvious concern about it so the fear of losing his reputation is damage in it of itself.
I agree, it's definitely not going to help him. My point is, Idra pulled some of the stupidest crap we've seen in a tournament towards the end of this MLG; actions that really upset a lot of his fans. That didn't stop his stream from getting 10,000 viewers last night though. It's all just a drop in the bucket, and the effect on his popularity and number of fans will be negligible.
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On June 10 2011 04:58 Mogwai wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2011 04:03 Ganjamaster wrote:On June 10 2011 03:56 Maliris wrote:On June 10 2011 03:42 Ganjamaster wrote:On June 10 2011 03:27 Ballack wrote:On June 10 2011 02:18 Ganjamaster wrote:On June 10 2011 02:01 TYJ.Aoy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 10 2011 00:22 Ganjamaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 16:41 StarBrift wrote:
I don't really know why this makes me so angry. Usually I can detach from these kinds of deals but I guess when you idolize a player it's harder to detach. I'm literally fuming about some of the attitudes people have here and more commonly on reddit about this.
The attitude that "LOL this dude is a loser and a whimp why doesnt he act out" is actually so detestable that it's hard to put into words. If someone gave that attitude to me after my girlfriend had lied and fucked around this way I would probably give that person the beatdown of their life. In what world is it ok to be such an incredibly inhumane douchebag fratboy that you actually say such shit. Would you preffer it if he was "cool and badass" and bought a gun and gunned down our well loved gamers? Is that the kind of reaction that makes him a man instead of a wimp? God that attitude is despicable. Regardless of whether his actions are unacceptable or not. You do not put a guy on blast for not getting violent with the situation. That is simply retarded. I don´t know about gunning people down, but I think a good old bar brawl was more than warranted if CatZ or any of the guys involved were crossing some lines with his girlfriend. Speaking for myself here, if anyone, regardless of his size or number of his party, continually behaved in a way I deemed inappropriate towards my girlfriend in disregard of any warnings I may give him would be met with the maximum amount of unarmed physical violence available to me swiftly and decisively, without even a hint of consideration for my own physical integrity. Have done so in the past, would do it again. So many stronk alfa males lurking TL, I'm deeply impressed. I do not understand how this makes me "strong" or "alpha" in any way. I just do not see any other possible course of action in this situation if they do not cease and desist from their actions after being given many warnings. You're a savage living in another century. In the West, we don't use violence, we sue people! Now in this case it might not be optimal to do that, so the fellow told the whole story and got a bigillion replies/attention, which has hurt Ret's reputation more than what a "good ol' beating" would have. As for the girl, she is now gonna be known as a slut (in the sc community). Thats just the way it is. I'd say his approach was a lot better than what you suggested in your macho way. Where I am from, the law does not concern itself with trivial matters such as a barfight (unless there serious consequences eg. death, severe injury), or it is too slow and corrupt to be of any use anyway. When people refuse to respect you through simple reasoning and talking, you have to resort to violence to make them respect you, or else they will walk all over you (like what happened to the poor dude in this story). And with regards to hurting Ret´s reputation (just saying ret for the sake of example, could be any given person) I would be much more satisfied pummeling his face into the ground than I would ever be by "hurting his reputation" in an online forum, lol. Additionally, hurting his reputation occurs after the fact, violence will deter the fact from happening or make it worse, depending on the outcome of the fight. I see no reason for a fight to ever result in less than grievous bodily harm or death, you realise this is why people don't fight in the first place? If you're too weak to do that then you shouldn't be fighting in the first place. I never claimed that, I only claimed that death and grievous bodily harm are the only cases in which argentine law will act with regards to a barfight, as opposed to the U.S. for example where you can be charged with battery by throwing a single punch. Technically you can be sued in Argentina but it would never happen, this is besides the point though. I am not saying that fighting is the best course of action, I am saying that sometimes it is a necessary course of action if it comes to a point where all other options are exhausted or the actions of the person are serious enough to warrant inmediate retaliation with full force. For example, if I am at a bar with my girlfriend and a dude purposefully grabs her ass, my inmediate reaction would be to punch him in the face as hard as I can, and continue until he is subdued. If he were hitting on my girl, I would explain what the situation is and ask him to desist, if he does not comply I would threaten him with the possibility of physical violence. If he continues, then I would fight him, absolutely. But as you can see, there are at least 2 instances prior to that where I am actively trying to avoid the fight. Sometimes, you just cant. only problem is that your analogies here are flawed because they're situations where the guys are making unwarranted passes at your girl. in this situation, the girl is the one who approached and initiated the inappropriate behavior, in which case there's really nothing wrong with the other guy in question's action and has everything to do with the girl. Proper response here wasn't to flip out on Ret/Catz but instead to see the warning signs that your girlfriend doesn't give a flying fuck about you and detach from her immediately. Like, both your scenarios are at least semi-reasonable to me, but I just don't think they're accurate models for talking about what went down here. *shrugs* at least that's my take.
The guys are still in the wrong. They could have refused her. Apparently she tried to hook up with Destiny but was rejected [read that somewhere in this thread or on reddit].
It takes two to cheat
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On June 10 2011 05:18 frogmelter wrote:
The guys are still in the wrong. They could have refused her. Apparently she tried to hook up with Destiny but was rejected [read that somewhere in this thread or on reddit].
It takes two to cheat
Maybe I'm unique, but when I'm on a trip in a different state or country with some of my good friends and at a bar, the last thing I'm wondering or caring about is if the girl that's into me has a boyfriend  .
The girl is 100% in the wrong. People do stupid stuff when they get drunk, but when it happens 2 nights in a row it's not just some drunken mistake. Catz and Ret are just guys, and if you're getting mad at them for going after some cute chick when they're a bit tipsy then you may as well be mad at the entire male sex for having a dick. If it wasn't Ret and Catz it would've been 2 other dudes, because that's just the way the male brain works. For most guys anyways...not sure about some of you.
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I agree with Disp here. In my opinion, the whole "it takes two to cheat" saying is a way for people who have been cheated on to redirect blame from the person they had/still have feelings for onto someone for whom them have no feelings. in other words a way to blame someone other than their girlfriend for cheating on them. situation is a bit different if the cheating is with someone the guy knows, but these are just random guys being approached by a random girl who's expressing interest. it's neither their concern or their fault that the girl has a boyfriend that she has decided to cheat on.
EDIT: I still chuckle every time I look at this thread's Title or OP.
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Well it's awesome that even SC2 players who haven't accomplished anything get groupies. Serious e-sports growth :D
As for the particular stories, the girl can do whatever she wants although it's awfully disrespectful and she's obviously a bit crazy. Dating doesn't come with any obligations. I just think the $1600 thing is insane and sad... But you know, there's stories of girls putting out for WoW gold and stuff - so heh, if that's how you roll...
Now that Ret knows what kind of girl she is, maybe he'll be careful. Groupies do have this one particular "use".
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On June 10 2011 05:49 Mogwai wrote:
I agree with Disp here. In my opinion, the whole "it takes two to cheat" saying is a way for people who have been cheated on to redirect blame from the person they had/still have feelings for onto someone for whom them have no feelings. in other words a way to blame someone other than their girlfriend for cheating on them. situation is a bit different if the cheating is with someone the guy knows, but these are just random guys being approached by a random girl who's expressing interest. it's neither their concern or their fault that the girl has a boyfriend that she has decided to cheat on.
EDIT: I still chuckle every time I look at this thread's Title or OP.
I think it needs to be said again, both Ret/Catz met the bf on day 1 as her bf. So in this case it really did take 2 to cheat since they both knew.
On June 10 2011 05:12 Mogwai wrote:
if you ever have to make the expectation that your girlfriend won't hook up with other guys clear to her, chances are you probably shouldn't be dating said girl. at least that's how I see it.
And this is very true.
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well, ok, assuming they knew, that means that had I personally been in their shoes, I would not have acted the way they did. however, I still don't think they're really at any fault.
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I seriously hope that the Swedish girls will step up at Dreamhack. If the players get perks as this at MLG we shouldn’t be worse (and we have prettier girls ; ) .
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EPT
