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[Video] CatZ denied at MLG - Page 15

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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
June 09 2011 03:10 GMT
#281
I have some strange feeling that the7ak3 and ret are gonna become total bros and be like loool that girl was such a whore and rets gonna bring him along for the groupies next mlg or something.
rave[wcr]
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1166 Posts
June 09 2011 03:10 GMT
#282
hey anybody know what league this girl is in?
BankaiPwn
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada40 Posts
June 09 2011 03:13 GMT
#283
On June 09 2011 08:08 BankaiPwn wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/user/the7ak3

This kid started a thread on reddit to get viewers because his GF (now ex-GF) wanted to start a STRIP SC2 STREAM for LESSONS. How he did not see this coming, I have no idea and he deserves everything that happened to him.



Just going to reiterate the fact that the OP started a thread looking for viewers to watch his girlfriend (ex) strip, Also if you go through his posts in the thread, they're ridiculously unprofessional and trollworthy. High level troll in the midst.

garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
June 09 2011 03:17 GMT
#284
On June 09 2011 11:46 frogmelter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 11:07 Torte de Lini wrote:
On June 09 2011 10:10 frogmelter wrote:
On June 09 2011 09:53 Torte de Lini wrote:
On June 09 2011 09:38 frogmelter wrote:
On June 09 2011 08:03 BandonBanshee wrote:
On June 09 2011 07:08 frogmelter wrote:
On June 09 2011 07:02 ptbl wrote:
I think Ret, Catz, and the girl is in the wrong. I feel sorry for the dude who got cheated on. As Ret said, there are two sides to a story, but when you have 10+witnesses from MLG confirming the cheated dude's story...


+1...

I was a fan of ret since BW but this is a bit too much...

On June 09 2011 07:00 Liquid`Ret wrote:
Heh so many lies. In my skype conversation with you you messaged me from her skype after you got into her house I had just found out that you posted on reddit. I didn't know I was doing something so terrible I thought you guys broke up on friday, which technically you did! but I have also heard about some fucked up shit you did. You seem to be enjoying the attention thought but this is really none of anyones business its only between the people involved so I don't want to go and explain myself here on a forum.


If you've done nothing wrong then why not explain yourself? You owe it to your fans...

He doesn't owe shit to anyone.


I'm going to have to disagree

Without fans, a pro is nothing

Without fans, there is not a pro that would be where they are today

It could be argued that pros owe EVERYTHING to fans


At the end of the day, it basically comes down to the fans...

Being good at the game = gets you more fans
Winning championships = gets you more fans

Why do teams sponsor players? So they preform well and promote their products to their fans and fans of whatever the player is participating in.

They are tons of people that are better than some low tier pros but just don't have a large fan base. Why is it that the popular players get teams/sponsorships even though they aren't as skilled as some other people? The fans...


The "oh they don't owe you shit" attitude is the attitude that people take when they take fame for granted and forget that the fans got them where they are today

Am I saying that he has to answer every single little question we have? Of course not. It's fully within his rights to refuse to elucidate the situation. But he's putting his fans in a difficult position when one party presents some hard evidence [skype conversation+eye witnesses is pretty incriminating] and he answers with vague answers.


I bolded everything that didn't make sense in your post.
For starters, how you think pros need fans to be what they are is beyond comprehension.

Edit: I edited leniency because some things do make sense in the end.


skewed perception


Here's how it works from limited perspective:

Pros: motivated and determined player excels in several tournaments -> Team sees potentially good player and recruits him -> Player practices and engages in great battles, improving his skill level and thus win-rate + tournament placements and winnings -> Team and organization gets exposure and sponsors become interested.

Exposure is increased by interest of StarCraft II, of the battles, games and how the player plays, not how he is perceived in his personal life. It has an effect, but it is the equivalent of Weiner showing his crotch to a few mistresses. Some people care and see it as reflective to his career, others don't.

If you don't notice, a player doesn't get a fanbase usually until after his succession: prime example are people like Major who frowned upon until recently at the MLG (and even then).


I don't remember saying that interest of SCII was based on people's personal lives anywhere. If you could point that out it would be helpful.

Also, public image of a celebrity /is/ in fact important. The pro is representing the sponsors to the fans, and by having a negative self image, they are showing the sponsor and their team in a bad light by association. People have been kicked out of teams because of "bad public image". Same reason why you don't want a famous criminal to promote your product.

From a purely financial standpoint, pros that get a lot more views are worth more than pros with less views. Especially in individual leagues. How do people choose what games to watch? They want to watch their favorite pros, not some random person that no one has heard of.

And before calling my view a "skewed perception", please point out where my fallacies are. Respect my opinions as much as I respect yours.[yes, what we are debating are opinions.] Thanks. Merely saying that "No you're wrong this is how it really works" when our views are not mutually exclusive does not mean much.

I like how you're shining the same light on this situation as you would on someone "being a criminal". Made me chuckle.

I don't even know what to post that's "on-topic" anymore. Fucking ESPORTS ruining everything.

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quentel
Profile Joined March 2011
349 Posts
June 09 2011 03:31 GMT
#285
Im only Diamond on ladder.

Does that entitle me to any sort of groupie?

A mexican pygmy maybe?

No?

Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
June 09 2011 04:14 GMT
#286
ESPORTS hahahaha <3 all parties involved, ret and catz what ballas
Stork HerO and Protoss everywhere - redfive on bnet
Securitate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada31 Posts
June 09 2011 04:40 GMT
#287
Man this was a pretty good MLG. Personally I would've gone for July though, he looks like a big cuddly teddy bear
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
June 09 2011 05:35 GMT
#288
brother mack gives his view on the catz and ret thing LOL:

♪~( ̄。 ̄)
MinoMino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1103 Posts
June 09 2011 05:53 GMT
#289
On June 09 2011 14:35 javy925 wrote:
brother mack gives his view on the catz and ret thing LOL:

Hahaha, I love Brother Mack.
Blah.
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
June 09 2011 06:04 GMT
#290
On June 08 2011 23:31 Ganjamaster wrote:
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On June 08 2011 23:26 Megaliskuu wrote:
On June 08 2011 23:19 Ganjamaster wrote:
I am quite fond of CatZ and his stream, apparently he is a pretty chill dude who keeps it real.

That being said, I do not know how this guy who posted on reddit didnt start some shit with him when he started being cheeky around his girlfriend.


If that shit about ret is true than thats even worse rofl.



BTW if Ret really FLEW a random girl over to the netherlands at the prospect of potential sex, somebody should really remind him that he lives in AMSTERDAM where prostitution is LEGAL. Maybe he will save some money.... last time I checked shit went for 50 euros or something like that.


and

On June 09 2011 14:35 javy925 wrote:
brother mack gives his view on the catz and ret thing LOL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qLH8TiINFU


= lol.

1600...holy hell. Imagine going to a strip club with 1600....I can't even imagine all the possibilities. As Brother Mack said...that can also last you many a day of fun.
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
June 09 2011 06:05 GMT
#291
Wow, Brother Mack is well informed. Sweden?!
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masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
June 09 2011 06:06 GMT
#292
In all reality I could easily expect CatZ could do such a thing. But ret. Really?

idk just seems to me Ret was beyond this kind of stuff. I was a big fan of ret. Not only as a player, but as a person to sorta look up to in way. A model of ideal character. But apperently I was wrong.

Now I understand that there are hormones and such running wild. but I though ret was the kind of guy who auctally respected women in a way. not get drunk and make out with some random girl. All just seems out of character for him. But again I am just a fan and was seeing him with rose colored glasses.

Sorta feels like the people you once looked up to let you down in a ways. Feels personal.
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
June 09 2011 06:27 GMT
#293
On June 09 2011 15:05 Beyonder wrote:
Wow, Brother Mack is well informed. Sweden?!


from youtube comments: "its all the same from this far away"
♪~( ̄。 ̄)
DND_Enkil
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden598 Posts
June 09 2011 06:51 GMT
#294
I find it all pretty entertaining, but it's not that i think it is a big deal for ESPORTS or something silly like that...

It is just all around hilarious
"If you write about a sewing needle there is always some one-eyed bastard that gets offended" - Fritiof The Pirate Nilsson
Rigou
Profile Joined March 2011
France19 Posts
June 09 2011 07:17 GMT
#295
Stracraft players have groupies now?


zanmat0
Profile Joined December 2010
188 Posts
June 09 2011 07:20 GMT
#296
On June 09 2011 10:42 Singu wrote:
laughter is not what TL is about


truer words have never been spoken.
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
June 09 2011 07:23 GMT
#297
On June 09 2011 16:20 zanmat0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 10:42 Singu wrote:
laughter is not what TL is about


truer words have never been spoken.


You obviously haven't been here long enough.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
June 09 2011 07:23 GMT
#298
On June 09 2011 15:06 masterbreti wrote:
In all reality I could easily expect CatZ could do such a thing. But ret. Really?

idk just seems to me Ret was beyond this kind of stuff. I was a big fan of ret. Not only as a player, but as a person to sorta look up to in way. A model of ideal character. But apperently I was wrong.

Now I understand that there are hormones and such running wild. but I though ret was the kind of guy who auctally respected women in a way. not get drunk and make out with some random girl. All just seems out of character for him. But again I am just a fan and was seeing him with rose colored glasses.

Sorta feels like the people you once looked up to let you down in a ways. Feels personal.


Ret said that he thought they broke up. I mean from his point of view he's got someone he likes, who likes him back, who could use a rebound.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
Babaganoush
Profile Joined November 2010
United States626 Posts
June 09 2011 07:28 GMT
#299
Hahaha oh wow.

I saw this on Reddit then thought the (ex)boyfriend was over exaggerating and posted false pictures...
Looks like I was wrong.

I would have NEVER believed girls would fall in groupie status for video games...
Looks like I was wrong.

Welp Ret, only word of advice is... if you're going to go out with someone and fly them from the US to Europe... at least let them pay half the ticket....
Stick a fork in those buns.
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
June 09 2011 07:33 GMT
#300
The guy deleted the reddit post, looks like funs over! Got kind of out of hand but the community loves drama from time to time.
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