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Life of a Psychopath

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Sarasin
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada109 Posts
May 20 2011 19:34 GMT
#1
Now I have a few of these prepared already and I'll post them as I get around to it. I'm mainly writing this as a time sink and to clear up some common misconceptions. So without further ado......

So this is going to be a documentation of the events that occur in my life, written in the style of a blog though it was not orginally intended to be posted anywhere at anytime or even read by anyone other then the author. I do this merely for the sake of the writting style which I prefer as it will be easier actually write anything in just a stream of conscienceness. This should be a great time sink for me which is needed badly and the reasons for that you will find out later on down the road. Excuse any spelling errors or insane run on sentances as I have a tendancy to do that, plus I lack spellcheck. I also plan to use this to completely document any on-going stories or whatever reasons. I have been telling people their and their extremely specific details and possibly add more additions to beef them up while I'm at it. Any confusion about anything will most likely be explained later so patience will answer almost all of your questions.




Where to begin, where to begin. I think due to the title I should begin by giving the definition of what a psychopath is to me, followed by what it is to leading researchers (I'm looking at you Hare), proceeded by the points of diagnosis and how they apply to me and finally what specfic rules I apply to myself and why I do that as I consider it a rather unique attribute to someone such as myself.

To me a psychopath is just another player in the game that we like to call life. He is just a level above the vast majority in skill at said game. He isn't hindered by things others are and will do whatever is needed to pursue whatever is chosen to pursue whatever he wishes. Of course not every psychopath is more sound of mind and smarter then the average person but the majority are. Being a good psychopath to me means being able to adjust properly to society and forge strong friendships to be able to both reap the benefits of having such friends such as fiscal support, more strength in your opinions when presenting them to others with people supporting, giving you job opportunites through connections and of course staving off the crippling boredom that seems to so often plauge us. You know it is kind of funny that people wonder so much why people go and shoot up a mall for apprently no reason. I would bet that the majority of those are times are simply some bored psychopaths. Yes it really gets that bad that doing ANYTHING to not be bored is better then continue to be tortued.

It does seem that there is some truth to that predatory nature that so many label us with. I can safely say that I am my most happy (and by this at times I literally mean tears of happiness) when I'm crushing someone beneath me. Or say I have put somone who is supposed to be in a position of power over me and who would like nothing more then to screw me over in a position where they have to give me exactly what I want or face severe consquences. There just seems to be a very primal desire to triumph over everyone else, to not let yourself become the prey no matter the cost. I strongly urge everyone who doesn't have the same views to reconsider. The entire point of life if there is any at all must be to triumph in the end and not get trampled on no matter the cost.

I also STRONGLY disagree when so-called experts on the field say things like we don't have the capacity for love. I have a different view on what love is then you but that does that fucking mean that I do not have the capacity for it. Just because I do not have the same sense of emotional connections then you does not mean I do not have them. Jesus fucking christ why does nobody realize that. Different does not mean not in exsistence. The definition of love to me at least is valuing another person so highly that you would put them above almost all other things. I don't think anyone should put another person above themselves as this is simply self-destructive at heart in the current society. If two people value themselves above the other in a relationship it will remain a healthy one. I know that at first the doesn't seem to logically click but if you delve a little deeper into it then it will start to become more sensical. Point one. During any divorce during therapy any therapist will say leaving as good in the long term to perserve your health and mental state. They are basically saying that your personal health should always trump the health of the relationship your in to the point where you end the relationship because of it. If both people put their own happiness as the maximum proiority you will never get situations where one person suffers that the hands of another as they just wouldn't take that shit. If your well-being is your absolute top priority there will never be a situation where your trapped. There is always options, always. My second point on that is that simply with both people striving for their own interests/happiness if being in that relationship makes them happy (which it should or will lead to greater happiness once a rocky patch has gotten smoothed over) both people should realize that strengthing the relationship and deepening it will be mutually benefical. In short it is not that I lack the capacity to love as most see it but I just don't agree that it is healthy or a good idea in general. Though perhaps by holding such strong opinions on the matter I really do lack the capacity to love in the commonly accepted form of it.

Continuing on the emotional note about how psychopaths only 'fake' remorse or other similar emotions when it is of advantage I disagree. It is almost put as if people think we would actually evulate every situation where remorse is expected and conclude that it is going to be advantagous. Thats just silly. Nobody has time to do such a thing. Its a matter of instictively knowing what will be an effective social technique in a given situation. It is the same as if when someone is off crying in the corner everyone feels some kind of pull to go console them. And upon consoling them you just know they will feel grateful upon your success, so you earned yourself another friend and all benefits with that.

Finally as for being labelled as a psychopath. I suppose any group has the right to slap labels on another and they will do this automatically it just seems that the assumptions that come with this are mistaken. While I have come to terms with being assiocted with the label I just disagree with most of what it entails.


As for the clinical definition for what I psychopath is I'm just going to copy-paste that as summarizing it isn't really worth the effort.

Alright here you are ----

It has often been noted that psychopaths have a distinct advantage over human beings with conscience and feelings because the psychopath does not have conscience and feelings. What seems to be so is that conscience and feelings are related to the abstract concepts of "future" and "others." It is "spatio-temporal." We can feel fear, sympathy, empathy, sadness, and so on because we can IMAGINE in an abstract way, the future based on our own experiences in the past, or even just "concepts of experiences" in myriad variations. We can "predict" how others will react because we are able to "see ourselves" in them even though they are "out there" and the situation is somewhat different externally, though similar in dynamic. In other words, we can not only identify with others spatially - so to say - but also temporally - in time.

The psychopath does not seem to have this capacity.

They are unable to "imagine" in the sense of being able to really connect to images in a direct "self connecting to another self" sort of way.

Oh, indeed, they can imitate feelings, but the only real feelings they seem to have - the thing that drives them and causes them to act out different dramas for effect - is a sort of "predatorial hunger" for what they want. That is to say, they "feel" need/want as love, and not having their needs/wants met is described as "not being loved" by them. What is more, this "need/want" perspective posits that only the "hunger" of the psychopath is valid, and anything and everything "out there," outside of the psychopath, is not real except insofar as it has the capability of being assimilated to the psychopath as a sort of "food." "Can it be used or can it provide something?" is the only issue about which the psychopath seems to be concerned. All else - all activity - is subsumed to this drive.

In short, the psychopath - and the narcissist to a lesser extent - is a predator. If we think about the interactions of predators with their prey in the animal kingdom, we can come to some idea of what is behind the "mask of sanity" of the psychopath. Just as an animal predator will adopt all kinds of stealthy functions in order to stalk their prey, cut them out of the herd, get close to them and reduce their resistance, so does the psychopath construct all kinds of elaborate camoflage composed of words and appearances - lies and manipulations - in order to "assimilate" their prey.

This leads us to what psychopaths DO have that is truly outstanding: an ability to give their undivided attention to something that interests them intensely. Some clinicians have compared this to the concentration with which a predator stalks his prey. This is useful if one is in an environment with few variables, but most real life situations require us to pay attention to a number of things at once. Psychopaths often pay so much attention to getting what they want that they fail to notice danger signals.

For example, some psychopaths earned reputations for being fearless fighter pilots during World War II, staying on their targets like terriers on an ankle. Yet, these pilots often failed to keep track of such unexciting details as fuel supply, altitude, location, and the position of other planes. Sometimes they became heroes, but more often, they were killed or became known as opportunists, loners, or hotshots who couldn't be relied on - except to take care of themselves. [Hare]

Annnnnnd back. That will wrap things up for this entry I suppose. Could have gotten more in but got distracted by some of my reading. The next will come when I feel like it.

***
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10806 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 19:52:31
May 20 2011 19:41 GMT
#2
I think stream of consciousness is a highly misunderstood writing format. It isn't just writing whatever comes to mind. It's emulating the human thought process. Books like Mrs. Dalloway and Heart of Darkness that feature this style were edited thoroughly to make something interesting, non-redundant and resonating. If they weren't edited or didn't have thought put into them they would be filled with mundane and boring unfiltered thoughts.

What I'm saying is that if you can't be bothered to write properly, don't slap the 'stream-of-consciousness' label on it. I wouldn't mention it, except that this is what your OP begins with. If you just wanna talk about what you think it's like to be a psychopath, skip the preamble and go right into it.

Regarding your thoughts on psychopathy (that's not a term that's really used anymore), I don't think you are a psychopath if you can feel attachment and love for others. By definition, a sociopath (the modern term) does not. You may be the victim of your own self-diagnosis.
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ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
May 20 2011 19:52 GMT
#3
psychopaths do certain things better than "normal people" and vice versa because they value different things and think differently. got it,
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
May 20 2011 20:13 GMT
#4
So your point in the entire writing is that you want to come out on top, no matter what, and that the desire to prioritize this alpha status takes position over all other points including love and boredom. I'm not sure whether it's domination over the weak or over everyone is your view of ultimate happiness, but I simply can't understand why alpha status is a must for such success.
Papvin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark610 Posts
May 20 2011 20:24 GMT
#5
Writing stuff as a time sink or other reasons is completely fine, but if you don't even try the slightest to communicate your message, why bother showing it to other people?
What I'm comming at here is that your blog is not saying anything specific about either you or the phenomenon, a psycopath, it's just blurry thoughts written down without thinking.
If you want to write more of these, please consider this, as your idea is good.
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SolHeiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1264 Posts
May 20 2011 20:31 GMT
#6
You're not a psychopath. You don't seem to know what psychopathy is at all. And just because you believe something doesn't mean that world renowned psychiatrists and medical doctors are wrong.
Snaiil
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden312 Posts
May 20 2011 20:38 GMT
#7
Wow this was actually really interesting, thanks for taking your time and writing it. I'm not going to argue with anything you've written because no matter what, you know a lot more about it than I do, so there's no point.

Rated 5/5, I hope you keep blogging! Looking forward to the next entry.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
May 20 2011 21:03 GMT
#8
I think a great deal of maleness is ego-centricity and coldness to emotion and sympathy. I'm not convinced there is a simple classification into normal and psychopathic, I think many people straddle the definitions, and there are probably many introverted nerds on this forum who are somewhere between the two. So I don't think you're special, OP, and probably not a complete psychopath, probably just dabbling in the autistic spectrum like many of us male nerds and slightly more emotionally dead.
Sarasin
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada109 Posts
May 20 2011 21:24 GMT
#9
On May 21 2011 05:31 SolHeiM wrote:
You're not a psychopath. You don't seem to know what psychopathy is at all. And just because you believe something doesn't mean that world renowned psychiatrists and medical doctors are wrong.


Really I have no idea what a sociopath really is? If you disagree by all means point out specifically where I am wrong and how so. Instead of simpling saying I'm wrong which is pretty baseless I must say.

Also I don't believe I said anywhere that people like Hare are completely wrong per-say. It is more the case that people like Hare have done the vast majority of their studies in prisons where they have limited access to a biased pool of people. Mainly the violent ones who are also stupid enough to get themselves caught. If current statistics are correct and about 1/25 people are sociopaths then the sample group that are tested on is extremely biased and not a clear representation of what is actually going on.

As for feeling attachment you really don't seem to understand my meaning on that though admittedly what I wrote has rather badly written and unclear. By attachment I mean more around someone is useful and provides something beneficial (yes very broad I know) so naturally taking advantage of this is something you want to do. Thus the 'attachment' isn't really to a person but towards what they provide for you.

As for not really writing anything about my life yet I felt that I had to get some common misconceptions and things people generally don't understand out of the way first or else I would spend way to much time in the comments explaining basically what I wrote in my post over and over again. Which is obviously something I wanted to avoid. And yes everything I wrote was rather poorly written which makes sense if you read the introduction. What I wrote was never really intended to be posted but I did it a bit implusively without editing it to much. Anything I post later on will be of actually read-able quality.
Trowabarton756
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States870 Posts
May 20 2011 21:27 GMT
#10
On May 21 2011 06:03 sc4k wrote:
I think a great deal of maleness is ego-centricity and coldness to emotion and sympathy. I'm not convinced there is a simple classification into normal and psychopathic, I think many people straddle the definitions, and there are probably many introverted nerds on this forum who are somewhere between the two. So I don't think you're special, OP, and probably not a complete psychopath, probably just dabbling in the autistic spectrum like many of us male nerds and slightly more emotionally dead.


Im emotionally dead. I had to take my cat to be put down and then hold its body in towel as we drove home to bury it. I didn't cry or anything, I just feel empty.
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Sotamursu
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland612 Posts
May 20 2011 21:29 GMT
#11
The thing with classifying yourself as a psychopath is that pretty much all the requirements list aspects of everyone. Everyone can focus on something that they are really into. Everyone uses other people for their own good. A lot of people are manipulative and have a 'grandiose sense of self-worth'. Every single person has a mask that they show to everyone else and hide their true personalities.

Being emotinally cold and looking at things from a logical point of view does not make you a psychopath.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
May 20 2011 21:30 GMT
#12
On May 21 2011 06:24 Sarasin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 05:31 SolHeiM wrote:
You're not a psychopath. You don't seem to know what psychopathy is at all. And just because you believe something doesn't mean that world renowned psychiatrists and medical doctors are wrong.


Really I have no idea what a sociopath really is? If you disagree by all means point out specifically where I am wrong and how so. Instead of simpling saying I'm wrong which is pretty baseless I must say.
IMHO where you're wrong is explained in this book by Ron Jonson: The Psychopath Test:
http://www.jonronson.com/psycho.html

There's a great interview with the author in the latest episode of the Skeptics Guide to the Universe:
http://www.theskepticsguide.org/archive/podcastinfo.aspx?mid=1&pid=304
The interview starts at about 39min in.

Short version: confirmation bias
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
May 20 2011 21:35 GMT
#13
if you have no friends and lock yourself in your room playing sc2 all day then how are you supposed to fall in love with someone or care about the world
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SirJolt
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
the Dagon Knight3965 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 21:39:57
May 20 2011 21:36 GMT
#14
On May 21 2011 04:41 Chef wrote:
I think stream of consciousness is a highly misunderstood writing format. It isn't just writing whatever comes to mind. It's emulating the human thought process. Books like Mrs. Dalloway and Heart of Darkness that feature this style were edited thoroughly to make something interesting, non-redundant and resonating. If they weren't edited or didn't have thought put into them they would be filled with mundane and boring unfiltered thoughts.



As a literature student, you have no idea how many times I've felt tempted to post this on someone's blog when they write, "This is just going to be my stream of consciousness lol." It's very much a mode of expression that came about during that whole "modern" period.

I feel as though there should be a rulebook somewhere that says,

"Are you Becket, Joyce, Conrad, or someone comparable? If so, feel free to use stream of consciousness wherever you like. If not, please have a nice long think about it."

Edit: Sorry, I should say, this isn't anything targeting the OP, it's just been on my mind.
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Rayzorblade
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1172 Posts
May 20 2011 21:43 GMT
#15
On May 21 2011 06:30 VIB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 06:24 Sarasin wrote:
On May 21 2011 05:31 SolHeiM wrote:
You're not a psychopath. You don't seem to know what psychopathy is at all. And just because you believe something doesn't mean that world renowned psychiatrists and medical doctors are wrong.


Really I have no idea what a sociopath really is? If you disagree by all means point out specifically where I am wrong and how so. Instead of simpling saying I'm wrong which is pretty baseless I must say.
IMHO where you're wrong is explained in this book by Ron Jonson: The Psychopath Test:
http://www.jonronson.com/psycho.html

There's a great interview with the author in the latest episode of the Skeptics Guide to the Universe:
http://www.theskepticsguide.org/archive/podcastinfo.aspx?mid=1&pid=304
The interview starts at about 39min in.

Short version: confirmation bias


I recommend this book, "The Psychopath Test." It's really engaging and intriguing - I finished reading it in a single sitting.
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