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SlipperySnake
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
248 Posts
May 19 2011 22:32 GMT
#41
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On May 19 2011 08:16 infinity2k9 wrote:
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On May 18 2011 07:56 udgnim wrote:
On May 18 2011 07:47 infinity2k9 wrote:
I'm afraid this has been asked many times before with no clear answer for no apparent reason unfortunately. I don't quite get why someone would give 400k to any eSports tournament and not even want any publicity or anything from it at all.


400K + costs for NASL team isn't much for a venture caplitalist

maybe there's some rich investor that likes e-sports and/or Starcraft and is willing to give out some money to see how well the NASL setup can grow or maybe the owners of gosucoaching did one hell of a job pitching NASL to venture capitalists

FX Open, a forex broker, has a SC2 team, and I can't imagine what value a forex broker gets out of being advertised through a SC2 team.

anyways, people with money see potential in things and are willing to give some out to see where that potential goes.

the objective is to gain a profit from the risk spent. e-peen doesn't translate to real life.


I'm aware it's not much money to an investor, i'm very aware but there's no evidence this is the case until it's actually said at least.

Nevertheless the figures don't even add up to me, how is putting up 400k just in prize money alone going to get a profit, any time soon? There's no sponsors (ones that seem to be massively endorsing and involved at least as far as i know), and the subscriptions for 3 months cannot add up to the prize money plus other costs. Maybe the stream ads help but still... you could say it's a more long term thing but still, i can't see this to be very good unless some changes happen in the future. They are putting up way more than established leagues like ESL and MLG, with i believe smaller audiences and focused on only 1 game. Not to mention SC2 eSports is already a crowded market.

However this is just speculating on the business plan now so i'll stop

When there's a history of non-payments and scams i don't think this is much of a big question though. If it's seriously an investor then why not say it, we don't need to know who or any details. The fact it's just being dodged as a question is weird.


I think it isn't just the fact that the NASL is dodging this question alone that is worrying but the way in which they dodge this question. Basically all of their responses have been two sentence sarcastic blerbs which in response to a serious issue is kind of frustrating. Also I feel like they keep trying to minimize the situation and pretend the question isn't relevant which is insulting. I hope they stop bull shitting soon.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 01:14:56
May 20 2011 01:13 GMT
#42
It actually isn't relevant. Here's why: you are a paying subscriber, which means you spent $25 to watch 13 weeks of Starcraft. You will get to watch the games and get your money's worth. What you paid for has absolutely nothing to do with paying the prize pool, because the games are going to happen regardless. That's where your 'investment' in the league ends.

What you'll have to do (or not do, your choice) is accept me telling you that we're a legitimate business and the prize pool for Season 1 will be paid. Players/teams have signed a contract, and as per the contract, all prizes will be paid within a specified timeframe after the season finishes.

That's all you need to know. All you can do is accept or reject that statement. You being abrasive on a message board and trying to bully us into giving you information isn't going to increase your chances of us telling you. I do appreciate your concern, however.
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SlipperySnake
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
248 Posts
May 20 2011 02:38 GMT
#43
On May 20 2011 10:13 Xeris wrote:
It actually isn't relevant. Here's why: you are a paying subscriber, which means you spent $25 to watch 13 weeks of Starcraft. You will get to watch the games and get your money's worth. What you paid for has absolutely nothing to do with paying the prize pool, because the games are going to happen regardless. That's where your 'investment' in the league ends.

What you'll have to do (or not do, your choice) is accept me telling you that we're a legitimate business and the prize pool for Season 1 will be paid. Players/teams have signed a contract, and as per the contract, all prizes will be paid within a specified timeframe after the season finishes.

That's all you need to know. All you can do is accept or reject that statement. You being abrasive on a message board and trying to bully us into giving you information isn't going to increase your chances of us telling you. I do appreciate your concern, however.


It is kind of ironic that you are saying that I or maybe others are bullying. Are you joking? You have had flippant at best responses including this one which you try to salvage with you last sentence. I understand you don't want to disclose more information but trying telling your customers/fans that their concerns aren't relevant or basically that it is none of their business is insulting to their intelligence. I don't expect you to be a perfect customer service representative or whatever but overall the response has been to act evasive and dismissive whenever this issue comes up.

This is an issue for your customers and that is part of why I am posting this. As a customer I care where the money comes from and that it is there. I appreciate that you are reading this but repeating your current dismissive and evasive approach(aka you have to trust me) just emphasizes why I am concerned.

Please, instead of just saying the same thing over and over again engage one of your fans. I am not saying you have to answer my question but hearing a reason why you can't disclose this information would be much appreciated. Or if even a reason for why you can't tell me the sponsor is too much then at least avoid saying basically my question isn't relevant or bullshitting.

I am not going to write another paragraph of why my question is relevant because I think I have explained that multiple times in the thread but I will just try to sum it up in one question. Do you think as many people would watch if instead of 100k your prize pool was 3k?

DISCLAIMER: I am watching the NASL right now as I am writing this so I am by no means trying to set some kind of ultimatum but I just want to voice my main concern. Thanks.
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
May 20 2011 06:52 GMT
#44
On May 18 2011 07:40 IntoTheWow wrote:
What are you talking about King Ansadi's tournament went perfectly well.

Searched it up.... ROFLMAO !XP thats one part of the history of TL that I hadnt read. What was he banned for?

Slippery.. dont put too much thought into it. You wouldnt go to a private companys office and demand to know where they are getting their money from. You wouldnt even question fxo or teamliquid as to how they pay their players salary so why do you expect NASL to do the same? If im not mistaken wasnt the first TSL a huge gamble in planning until midway razer appeared and threw up the money to make it possible?

Saying you are worried cos they might get screwed over is a poor excuse. The players take on that risk themselves otherwise they wouldnt enter that tourney or sign up with their teams.
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