I don't think it's fair to generalise idiocy of some people to the whole nation. Most of the fins aren't bad winners or sore loosers. But of course those big flashy idiots stand out and smarter people don't. I mean the people that're bashing swedes after the winning. I do not consider them to represent the whole nation. And it's not like there aren't these kind of idiots in every country, in sweden too.
Oh and I dissagree with the "good taste of the Swedish media" as they were bashing finnish team before the game. And even after only the other paper admided they were wrong. But the other went on bashing Finland for only ever winnig wc twice.

I don't see the people celebrating in the streets as idiots. I think it's cool to show your happines. I think what happened was that people didn't really know what to do with themselfs they were so happy. So they did everything, acting like monkeys running around. I celebrated by going to sleep, but people have different ways of doing things. Also I think in Finland winnig world cup in ice hockey is bigger deal than the olympics. All my life growing up I've been hearing about that magical thing that happened in 1995 (I cannot remember it myself) And it was hard to imagine that it could happen again, since I cannot remember it never happening before. And then it did.

I can't either answer why ice hockey is so important to people in Finland. It just is, has always been I suppose. Well hey look at football fans in Europe. I'm thinking this finnish celebrading is quite small compared to that. Also we don't have ice hockey hooliganism where people gather to kill eachother eather. So all and all this is in very small scale. I think we have things pretty well here.

But for those people who went to start a fight in Haaparanda, that's just disgusting. Nothing else cannot be said.

It might seem to people that Fins and Swedes hate each other. I don't think so. I see the rivalry more as sibling rivalry than anything else. That's why Sweden is often referred as "beloved enemy" in Finland. I remember when I was 13 and kids at my school were often bashing Sweden. But when the teacher asked which country would they want to live in if not Finland, everybody answered Sweden.

QuanticHawk

United States32051 Posts

May 17 2011 14:26 GMT

#22

On May 17 2011 07:15 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
I've never understood why the competitors nationality is somehow a big deal.
Finns are unbearable in this regard. I can't watch any national competitions with them.
I guess it's good for your self-esteem when some other person who might or might not have spent most of their life in more or less the same geographical area wins something that they have worked their ass off for instead of some other human being.
And when I ask anyone why it's such a big deal no one ever gives me a real answer.
I have no idea where it comes from or what it is.

I'm an antifan of the finnish national team because they all but one have left me with the impression of a complete tool and a dumbass. I also have problems with where the sport has been going for the past 30 or so years.

if it's all in good fun it's harmless. The olypmics were a blast here because of the amount of canadians on TL and there was lots of back and forth shittalking. most people with brains realized it was all tongue in cheek. i would like to think that most people arent burning flags and shit over that.

On May 17 2011 09:37 unkkz wrote:
Why do people care about the world cup in hockey anyway? Only thing that matters is the olympics. The world cup is played every year afaik, and every year the best players turn it down and don't show. So the national teams are just second rate players fighting to be "best in the world"

But yes, Fin and Swe have a pretty sick rivavlry. I remember after the 5-1 to 5-6 loss for Finland, my finish teacher didn´t show up for school for like three days and refused to talk about it afterwards.

Yeah the WC is pretty meh to me as far as competition but i'll watch most any hockey game. The Olympics are definitely a way better and more important event.

The swede-finn rivalry is awesome though. The swedes always have a bunch of really talented players, and the finns just seem to always play damn good despite not ever really having very many truly elite skaters. They're usually pretty physical. And the country gave the world Esa Tikkanen.

bonifaceviii

Canada2890 Posts

May 17 2011 14:37 GMT

#23

On May 17 2011 05:21 Crit wrote:
Seriously, for crying out loud! Who the hell burns the country-flag of an opposing sports team … inside their own country?!

Yeah, we totally did that in 2002 after we won the Olympic gold over America. I was in Niagara at the time, and people were being absolute retards at the border bridge. I'm surprised no one was shot.

Danjoh

Sweden405 Posts

May 17 2011 16:13 GMT

#24

On May 17 2011 05:49 11cc wrote:

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That pic is pretty ironic I think, because the teary eyed swede that made it is showing himself as a sore loser while critisizing us for it.

here are 2 from last year made by a dane:

http://satwcomic.com/a-bad-day
http://satwcomic.com/kung-fu-fighting

koreasilver

9109 Posts

May 17 2011 17:53 GMT

#25

On May 17 2011 05:49 11cc wrote:

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That pic is pretty ironic I think, because the teary eyed swede that made it is showing himself as a sore loser while critisizing us for it.

You haven't seen these comics before, which makes this all the more funny.The only person that's agitated about this is you, which, funnily enough, reflects the comic. 5/5

Necosarius

Sweden4042 Posts

May 17 2011 19:01 GMT

#26

On May 17 2011 05:49 11cc wrote:

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That pic is pretty ironic I think, because the teary eyed swede that made it is showing himself as a sore loser while critisizing us for it.

Right now I think the pic is pretty true. A friend living in Vaasa temporarily got her front door pissed on and painted in blue and white. Another friend of mine got assaulted close to the border to Finland.

I know not everyone from Finland is like this but things have gone too far.

QuanticHawk

United States32051 Posts

May 18 2011 19:42 GMT

#27

http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Hockey teams drunken antics lead to official talking-to /1135266240379

hahahhaahha

the team went overboard, even by finnish standards