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onlinerobbe
Germany547 Posts
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T0fuuu
Australia2275 Posts
On May 16 2011 17:03 CanucksJC wrote: Technically it is 'gam sa hab ni da', but it's a really soft 'b' and it kinda gets buried. But if you say it slowly, you can clearly tell that it is 'hab', not 'ham' Also, 뭐예요 shouldn't sound like boyeyo  . Keep up the good work btw :D Im new to the language but are you sure ?? 입니다 is never ever "eeb ni da" and i hear that alot. If it was it would be obvious because all B sounds are final closures so its really obvious if its there. I was taught when ㅂcomes before ㄴ it change sound to ㅁ I think its called aspiration? Iono .. . might be the final closure rule which changes the next sound to be harsher or closer to its family. | ||
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SojuSeed
Korea (South)80 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.lovehkfilm.com/blog/damnyoukozo/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/2_lee_hyo_lee.jpg) Good job on the Korean though. | ||
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SojuSeed
Korea (South)80 Posts
On May 13 2011 22:18 mizU wrote: I think it would be spelled differently though. hab 합 ham 함 Any Koreans care to shed some light on this? I know 뭐예요 sounds like boyeyo sometimes. The bottom letter position is called the pad-chim (받침) and usually, when it's at the beginning of a word or in the middle, such as with 감사합니다 it's pronounced as ㅁ. When this is spoken, the '사합' is blended together so it actually sounds like 삼. So you end up with 감삼니다. That's what it sounds like, anyway. Regarding romanization, it's gone through a couple of different forms and so you'll get mixed answers sometimes. For instance, here in Korea there is a city called Daegu. (대구) Sometimes when romanized, this will be spelled with a T, (Taegu) or with the D as I did. The same thing with another city, Busan. (부산) Sometimes with the B and sometimes with a P. -S- | ||
Chill
Calgary26001 Posts
On May 16 2011 20:47 T0fuuu wrote: Im new to the language but are you sure ?? 입니다 is never ever "eeb ni da" and i hear that alot. If it was it would be obvious because all B sounds are final closures so its really obvious if its there. I was taught when ㅂcomes before ㄴ it change sound to ㅁ I think its called aspiration? Iono .. . might be the final closure rule which changes the next sound to be harsher or closer to its family. Yea this is correct. There's some final consonants that change sound based on the next consonant. I tried searching for the list but I can't find it online. Things like 입니 (ib ni -> im ni), 종로 (jong ro -> jong no), 같이 (ga ti -> ga chi), etc. There's about 5 or 6 of these changes I think. I know there's one involving ㄷbut I can't think of it now. | ||
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pikaaarrr :3
United States593 Posts
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Chill
Calgary26001 Posts
On May 17 2011 02:02 pikaaarrr :3 wrote: Chill, I know that you went to Korea for a while, but how did you study Korean before? I feel like I have a decent grasp on hangul but don't really know how to start learning the actual language. I have a textbook but it's hard to learn on my own since I sometimes don't realize my mistakes >< I did language exchange and had a weekly tutor for about a year. She would teach me out of a text book and give me quizzes. When I got better, should would ask questions and I'd answer in Korean. Since then my tutor moved away. These days I still try to meet someone at least once a month to speak Korean for an hour or so. My girlfriend is also Korean so some days, but not too often, we speak Korean to each other as much as possible. | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
On May 17 2011 02:04 Chill wrote: I did language exchange and had a weekly tutor for about a year. She would teach me out of a text book and give me quizzes. When I got better, should would ask questions and I'd answer in Korean. Since then my tutor moved away. These days I still try to meet someone at least once a month to speak Korean for an hour or so. My girlfriend is also Korean so some days, but not too often, we speak Korean to each other as much as possible. You studied abroad in Korea for a year? And you have a Korean gf? What a badass. | ||
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SojuSeed
Korea (South)80 Posts
Studying from textbooks is essential but you need a native speaker to work with in order to nail down the pronunciations. English vowels are similar but there are often subtle differences that stand out if you don't get it right. That's probably the biggest mistake I hear with other English speakers is their use of vowels. Once you tune in to it it's impossible not to hear the horrible pronunciation and you can really tell who has put in the effort vs. Who has just learned some stock phrases. Needless to say, my pronunciation is pretty good. ^^ My intonation still needs work, though. You can also watch korean dramas online if all else fails. Check out dramacrazy.net. -S- | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
On May 17 2011 15:11 SojuSeed wrote: The best way is to do what I'm doing, which is to come over as a teacher. I've been in country going on 5 years. If you have a BA from just about any 4 year school and a clean background check, it's possible to find a job. Studying from textbooks is essential but you need a native speaker to work with in order to nail down the pronunciations. English vowels are similar but there are often subtle differences that stand out if you don't get it right. That's probably the biggest mistake I hear with other English speakers is their use of vowels. Once you tune in to it it's impossible not to hear the horrible pronunciation and you can really tell who has put in the effort vs. Who has just learned some stock phrases. Needless to say, my pronunciation is pretty good. ^^ My intonation still needs work, though. You can also watch korean dramas online if all else fails. Check out dramacrazy.net. -S- You went over without knowing a scratch of Korean? | ||
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SojuSeed
Korea (South)80 Posts
On May 17 2011 19:27 mizU wrote: You went over without knowing a scratch of Korean? Yep. I studied off and on up until early this year when I got serious, but you really can get by with just a little bit of Korean as long as you don't want to do anything too demanding. Learning to read it is important so you can identify bus signs, menus and street signs and the like. But for most people, any time they need something complex done they just get an interpreter. I still rely on that for technical stuff but I'm at the point know with my Korean that I can have basic conversations (probably with a lot of sloppy grammar) on my own. And it makes talking to girls a lot easier. They get all twitterpated when a foreigner starts speaking good Korean. It doesn't guarantee you a date by any means but it's a great opener. -S- | ||
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shublar
Korea (South)264 Posts
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SojuSeed
Korea (South)80 Posts
On May 17 2011 22:10 shublar wrote: Soju - that's pretty freaking cool - is there some sort of english teacher agency that you applied to? If you want to check in to it, a good place to start is eslcafe.com and go to the Korean job boards/Discussion boards. You can use a recruiter and they will help you find a job (should be free on your end, so if they ask you to cover some kind of expenses to help them look for you, pass and go to another one) or you can see if any schools have posted any want ads directly. You'll need your college diploma, sealed transcripts, a federal background check and a passport. The diploma and the transcripts have to be notarized and verified with an apostille stamp, I think. It's been a couple of years since I had to go through it and they always change the rules. -S- | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
On May 17 2011 19:48 SojuSeed wrote: And it makes talking to girls a lot easier. They get all twitterpated when a foreigner starts speaking good Korean. It doesn't guarantee you a date by any means but it's a great opener. Awwww yeahhhhh  ]]I'm excited for Korea. Better work on my Korean ;] | ||
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
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SojuSeed
Korea (South)80 Posts
On May 18 2011 18:51 mizU wrote: Awwww yeahhhhh ]]I'm excited for Korea. Better work on my Korean ;] You on your way here? Whereabouts, when and why? -S- | ||
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shublar
Korea (South)264 Posts
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SojuSeed
Korea (South)80 Posts
On May 18 2011 23:34 shublar wrote: I'm really liking these blogs! SojuSeed - are you in Seoul? If i come over for a holiday it'd be cool to meet more tl members! No, I'm down south on the east coast. A little city of maybe 500k called Pohang. -S- | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
On May 18 2011 22:53 SojuSeed wrote: You on your way here? Whereabouts, when and why? -S- I'm coming to study abroad! I'll be in Jochiwon for the fall semester. | ||
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Chaosvuistje
Netherlands2581 Posts
그러면, continiue :D. | ||
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