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The Struggle of getting into 1v1 playing!

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reapsen
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany559 Posts
May 05 2011 20:35 GMT
#1
Hey everyone,

in the first four parts of my blog i introduced myself and my history with games and especially starcraft at great length. From now on i had planned to switch the style of my blog into a more diary-like thing, where i document my progress (or regress ) that i do in sc2.

But first i want to address an issue that i think plays a major role in my struggle to improve in sc2 and that is:

Getting into the 1v1 Playstyle.

Everyone knows that sc2 is primarily a duel-game much like tennis or chess. Sure, there is 2v2 which is kind of neat and also 3v3 and 4v4 can be fun, but obviously 1v1 is where shit gets real.

So, in my previous posts i mentioned that i never was a huge fan of 1v1 games/sports in general. However i really like sc2 and thus i am kind of forced to put myself in the 1v1 universe.

But why is it so hard for me to get comfortable with duelling? Sure, one could primitively answer: "Dude, you´re a wussy and can´t handle fighting on your own." While this might even be partly true, this is only a tiny bit of the whole deal. So, i took some thought into this and here is what i figured out.

Why is it hard to get into dueling? (If you're not already used to it).

0) Personality
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I guess the most basic thing even relates back to how you were raised. For example, if you had a brother close to your age with whom you competed all the time, i think you have much more comfort when going into a 1v1 sport or game. I think an expert psychologist could write like 10 blogposts on this particular topic alone, but at this point i'll just leave it at the statement, that there are some people who naturally can handle duel-situation better than others. I myself have to assign myself to latter ones it seems.

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maoiste and myself destroying some clanmates in 2v2



1) Social Aspects
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For me this is the main aspect without a doubt. It begins with:

1.1) Overcoming laziness/lethargy
If you had a rough day or something, it's so easy to convice yourself that you are too exhausted to play and rather chill out. But if you have like 3 or 4 teammates who are waiting for you and rely on you, it's much much easier to rise from the sofa and get to the practice.

1.2) Pre-game preperation and practice
When you're in a team, before you begin to play, you can discuss what you want to try to work on this time, what went bad last time and so on. If you're playing on your own, this step happens in your own head and in my case it often done rather shallow.

1.3) Communication and Motivation
This is probably what i miss most, when playing 1v1s. I loved to talk to my team while playing, motivating each other and encourage if the situations looked tough. Too often i just think in 1v1 games "nah, this is over. gg" and leave, while in teamgames i am mostly the one that goes like "come on guys, we can still do it!!!". Same thing with just strategy talk during a game. In a Quake3 CTF match we would discuss switching positions and stuff during a game all the time, in 1v1 this is just all in your own head. I also miss the plain and simple joking around while playing.

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Team Deathreign. Where mates became my friends.
(btw you can tell maoiste already sucked back then, no wonder he plays protoss nowadays :D)


2) Emotional Aspects
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Another big thing is the emotional aspect when you play 1v1 instead of team games. This is where people might call you a "wussy", but i don't give a shit about that With emotional aspects i mean:

2.1) Dealing with nervousness/pressure
I have read many threads on TL where people state, that they are inable to play ladder, because they are too nervous. I don't have that problem too much, but i can understand what causes this tension. Its that you are going to go head-to-head with a stranger for (on average) 15minute game where, if you lose, the only one to blame is yourself. You get like a direct feedback that you are either better or worse than the other guy. In teamgames however, this feedback is distributed over all teammembers and thus is less drastic for the individual. Furthermore if you have very high expectations on yourself (e.g. "i should steamroll that dude easy") you might get even more nervous. Apparently some people are so afraid of this kind of direct feedback, that they are completely inable to ladder at all. Thank god it's not that fatal for me.

2.2) Dealing with frustration
But even when you are able to overcome the anxiety, you find yourself in the situation, where you are up against a complete stranger and for the next 15 minutes (again on average), and it totally comes down to your own ability to play this game. Every mistake you make might result in a loss. I can totally see why this can be stressful and lead to frustration. In teamgames your mates rely on your abilities also, but if you make a mistake you always have the chance that you get some backup help from your buddy that saves your ass. Its kind of similar to the direct feedback in opposite to the buffered feedback i talked about earlier. Its relieving to know that there are buddies who can jump in.

2.3) Sense of community
I haven't been on a sc2 team/clan yet, so i am lacking some knowledge here, but another big thing you don't get when you ladder by yourself is the sense of beeing part of team. I think most of the people who have played teamgames with the same people for a long period of time can confirm that sooner or later you'll get something like a family feeling. I really miss that, but then again i haven't been on a sc2 team yet.

2.4) Sharing Successes/Defeats
A huge problem for me is also the inability to share successes or defeats. I just don't like rageing all by myself when i lost because of some stupid mistake i made as well as i don't like to party by myself when i owned some dude. Sure i can tell my buddies "DUDE, i went 10-0 on the ladder today" and they will be like "ye, good job", but thats nothing compared to the feeling when you win together. I especially miss celebrating the little things. When i played Quake we would celebrate every cool shot or move, but when you play 1v1 without any observers literally no one sees it, when you pull off something wicked cool. Sure you can upload the replay and brag about it in forums, but thats just not the same. That is another thing that really bugs me with 1v1.

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Getting our asses kicked in CTF by swedish top team FOE back in 2004.



3) Strategic Aspects
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Last but not least there are some stratetic aspects i really miss in 1v1. With that i mean:

3.1) Combining different Characters and Strength/Weaknesses
In every team you have different personalities, different levels of skill and so on. To melt these together to a team, that then tries to achieve a common goal is something i find highly exciting. Its about distributing responsibilites, for example in CTF you need to arrange who is defense and who is offense, who takes what items and so on. All the strategic discussion happens in a dialogue, where in sc2 1on1 you think through you build orders you wanna play and then you do it.

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Playing with german rocket arena national team against team france.



Conclusion:
I have listed the things, i consider the most substantial when it comes to why i have such a hard time to get into 1v1 play. I am sure that a player who has been playing 1v1 games for all his life will view most of the points from a completely different perspective. He might even argue, that he cherishes it not having to discuss strategic things or that he likes it, to book success directly to his account.

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There is no place like home.


I hope i learn to arrange myself with some of the points and then feel more comfortable while playing 1v1s, or maybe i should try to join a team to compensate some things i mentionend.

Good lord, this has gotten waaay longer than i initally thought, sorry for that. I hope you had somewhat of a good read nontheless.

And please let me know what you think of the stuff i said. Can you relate to it, or do you think its garbage? Also feel free to call me a wussy, if you think thats what i am :D

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AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
May 05 2011 20:58 GMT
#2
I think a lot of people feel this way, I know I used to. When you lose alone you feel like you got beat. If you play as a team and lose you can always justify it by blaming others or blaming the team as a whole (at least in your head). This makes us feel more secure overall and was the reason why I used to avoid playing 1v1s.

To get over this fear, I basically played against my roommates 1v1. Playing casually with close friends was not only fun but helped me get used to 1v1ing. After doing that for awhile I simply became more comfortable playing 1v1.
always tired -_-
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
May 05 2011 21:14 GMT
#3
I feel a lot of the same pressures when I play 1v1. Here's how I usually cope:

0) Personality: I'm not sure there's anything you can do about this, really. If it's in you to play comeptitive 1v1s, it's not in you-- there's a lot of ways to play sc2 without laddering 1v1. The very fact that you're trying to overcome, though, leads me to believe that personality could be a problem but shouldn't hold you back long run

1.1) laziness: I think probably the best thing you can do to counter laziness is to set up a stream. Even if your friends aren't playing with you, they can watch along as you play and talk to you, and you get a similar feeling. you might even get other people you don't know to watch if you list it here on TL.

1.2) preparation/practice: I usually talk to myself / my stream before each game, just to sort of get in the mood. you can also talk to your opponent verbally, even if he can't hear you, just for fun. It sounds crazy, but just verbalizing what you're thinking helps a great deal.

In fact, I think you can simulate most of 1.X by streaming and having your friends view with you and commentate etc.

2.1) nervousness: this is a battle you have to face alone.

2.2) frustration: I personally find it more frustrating to have to cover my teammates' mistakes. If I make a mistake, it's not frustrating for me because that's ME. Imagine losing for a reason that has nothing to do with you (like a terrible teammate)? To me that's far more frustrating than a self-inflicted loss. I'd rather rise to the challenge of overcoming my own weaknesses than try to cover for a teammates'.

2.3) community: there's really nothing to do about that. laddering is against strangers.

2.4) sharing: I think this one is actually social. get a stream! share!




I think the main concern for 1v1 that you can solve with specific actions is everything involving social aspects and friends. Although you fight alone, there's plenty of opportunities for sharing with your friends if you stream or just stay in communication with them through ventrilo or mumble while you're in game. describe what's happening, or just be like "ugh i hate TvT, T is imba in this matchup"
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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11301 Posts
May 05 2011 21:28 GMT
#4
Interesting read, thank you!
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ChaseR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
May 05 2011 22:02 GMT
#5
Nicely written blog, I'm also really struggling to get into 1v1 games, only played about 50 since the game came out, and I find it sooo hard to have to play against 600~ Masters when I don't know how to play the T matchups.

I liked what you wrote about Emotional Aspects, it's certainly the MAIN reason I greatly prefer teamgames, I don't get nervous when I'm not alone and play to the best of my ability. In 1v1 when I'm nervous, I easily make a blunder and the game is normally over and compared to BW, SC2 does not provide much opportunity for comebacks which was how I won games on ICCUP.

Sharing Successes/Defeats is also in a sense getting the feel that somebody bothers to acknowledge your efforts/progress otherwise what's the motivation to keep playing?
Life is not Fucking Fair and Society is not Fucking Logical - "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
May 05 2011 22:09 GMT
#6
Many broken pix in OP.
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
RedJustice
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1004 Posts
May 05 2011 23:00 GMT
#7
For me I'd say your comment about the social aspect of it-- especially sharing your wins-- is something I really miss when I play 1v1s. Something one of my friends does to alleviate this is to stream his ladder games while being on Skype with a bunch of us. That way we can all cheer him on, or make little comments (y u no chronoboost?!!?!?!?!?!!!), and even though the stream is pretty delayed from when it's actually happening for him, we still get to see the game and tell him what a boss he is when he wins (or give him some helpful advice if he loses).

Whenever I build a new computer this summer I plan on doing something similar as I start to get back into 1v1ing. My laddering has gone to shit since finals started, lol.
reapsen
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany559 Posts
May 07 2011 09:52 GMT
#8
Setting up a stream would be nice, i guess. Unfortunately my computer as well as my current connection bandwith are too crappy to do so.

I think the best thing to do is just to play a lot, at least thats what i try to aim for. I´ll post how that is going to work out

Btw.: Has anyone else problems with the images? Apparently most people can see them just fine.
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
May 07 2011 10:42 GMT
#9
K i've played a fair bit of SC in my life and let me tell you, the BEST way to start getting into 1v1 is IGNORING ALL THAT SHIT. I am not even kidding, just do it. With the quickmatch system in sc2 you can even ladder faster now than in BW.

I've literally played about 80 games in the past 3-4 days. I didn't think about it, I didn't go "oh my goodness this is quite an emotional situation here!", I didn't do any of that shit, I just kept playing.

Instead of writing huge blogs like this analyzing the situation, take that time and put that towards a game.

(and just fyi, I am majoring in psychology so it's not like I'm a stoic character and laddering 1v1 comes easily, in fact I am the complete opposite of stoic).
deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
May 07 2011 10:51 GMT
#10
I want everyone who feels this way to add me, so that we can all play tons of custom games together and it literally won't matter at all who wins or loses. My ID is DeathlyRat 752 (EU Server)
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