• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:17
CEST 16:17
KST 23:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon155.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes20Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch2[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon Is the larve respawn broken? ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! INu's Battles#17 <BO.9> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool ProGamer Paychecks Story BW General Discussion Best thing happen to StarCraft since Remastered? Data needed
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
[94721]Better Good-Health Signs Than 3-15 Bans/Yea TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Men's Fashion Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4396 users

A Short Note On the State of Starcraft in E-Sports

Blogs > Chargelot
Post a Reply
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
May 04 2011 18:11 GMT
#1
Starcraft tournaments and competitions have long been dominated by the South Koreans. The winners were always players from SK, the tournaments were always held in SK, and the few foreigners who qualified would have to bring themselves to SK if they wished to participate.

The era of SK domination is slowly, but most certainly, coming to an end. This blog is not meant to discredit the amazing Starcraft II players who are SK, but rather the entire paradigm of the "foreigner".

The term foreigner is used to refer to anyone who is not SK, and this term goes largely unquestioned because of the assumption of SK centralization. While major centralization in SK was seen in SC:BW, the same cannot be said of SCII. People often like to cite the GSL as their source for SK domination. However people don't seem to make the connection between a Korean tournament and a Korean player base. The biggest problem is that there aren't many tournaments as large or exclusive as the GSL, so people just assume the best players in GSL are the best players, period.

But it would seem the game is rigged from the start. The major tournaments happen in SK, so the SK players are largely popularized, and the SK winners are then invited to other, foreign tournaments.

But, as Lindblom once said about the prison of Democratic Capitalism, there are "jailbreaks". Many great foreign players from around the world have shown their faces, and they are becoming more and more popular every day. Players like IdrA, Catz, InControl, HuK, KiWiKaKi, Sheth, mOOnGLaDE, Optikzero, qxc, Slush, Drewbie, Machine, TLO, White-Ra, Dimaga, Tyler, MorroW, MaNa, naama, Strelok, Naniwa, Socke, Adelscott, CrunCher, Stalife, Jinro, and many more, have proven themselves time and time again to be skillful, knowledgeable players deserving of much praise and attention.

Because of the large number of "foreigners" that are becoming popular due to their skill, many foreigner tournaments have been created. NASLis one great example of this, with a prize pool of ~$100,000. Furthermore the TSL, IPL, and MLG offer over that amount (combined) for their respective seasons.

Evil Geniuses also has plans to launch their own league, the EG Master's Cup, which will have a $10,000 prize pool.

What this all boils down to is that "foreigner" is a title that should apply to no one. Starcraft II has taken the world by storm, and the competitive gaming scene is about as decentralized as possible. Players who are located in Korea are now being shipped out to the States, and the EU to compete in our tournaments, instead of the other way around. FXO (Australian-based team) also has a tournament/league planned that, I have heard, will rival the GSL in size, prize, and skill required.

South Korea is becoming a pitfall trap for "foreign" players. They move to SK to play in tournaments, and are unable to compete in the numerous and bountiful tournaments held in the US and EU due to connection issues, or travel costs. The smart player would stick with the rest of the world, because it's only going to get better.

*
if (post == "stupid") { document.getElementById('post').style.display = 'none'; }
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-04 19:18:14
May 04 2011 19:17 GMT
#2
You are right, and actually I am really happy with it. So, BW can live on still for a long time, while the rest of the world will play SC2. Both Games will live alongside each other. But still, the term "foreigner" must be still used, because South Koreans are still a not to-be neglected part of the SC2 community.

I used the word "still" four times.

What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
May 04 2011 20:12 GMT
#3
Foreigner is only used to separate South Koreans from the rest of the world. My point is that the two are beginning to meld, and not a single country deserves recognition over the others. Separation implies there is a reason to separate. As the "foreign" position in E-Sports grows larger and larger, the skill difference between the top pros of SK and foreigners will begin to diminish greatly.

I doubt many Brits will be practicing SC2 for 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, but I'd argue that lowers the ability to focus, and causes burn-out.
if (post == "stupid") { document.getElementById('post').style.display = 'none'; }
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
11:00
KungFu Cup 2026 Week 13
IntoTheiNu 1143
RotterdaM843
WardiTV679
TKL 274
SteadfastSC134
IndyStarCraft 123
CranKy Ducklings45
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 843
TKL 274
Ryung 212
SteadfastSC 134
IndyStarCraft 123
SHIN 114
ProTech108
RushiSC 26
trigger 24
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 59288
Sea 2010
Shuttle 1874
EffOrt 860
Light 685
Hyuk 676
Horang2 659
firebathero 604
Soma 565
BeSt 439
[ Show more ]
Rush 262
hero 257
ggaemo 249
Snow 245
Zeus 198
Soulkey 172
Last 146
Dewaltoss 82
Hyun 79
Pusan 64
Aegong 44
ToSsGirL 39
sorry 39
Free 38
[sc1f]eonzerg 30
scan(afreeca) 28
Shine 17
Bale 17
Sacsri 17
zelot 13
Rock 5
Dota 2
Gorgc4888
singsing3521
Dendi1069
Fuzer 570
XaKoH 566
qojqva196
XcaliburYe110
420jenkins89
Counter-Strike
kRYSTAL_48
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King66
Other Games
hiko1088
B2W.Neo1049
Lowko408
crisheroes284
DeMusliM264
Hui .192
KnowMe25
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream191
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• EnkiAlexander 25
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP7
• mYiSmile15
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 9
• FirePhoenix0
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3097
• TFBlade707
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
9h 43m
CrankTV Team League
20h 43m
Bombastic Starleague
1d 5h
The PondCast
1d 19h
HomeStory Cup
1d 20h
Replay Cast
2 days
HomeStory Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
HomeStory Cup
3 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S3
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Heroes Pulsing #3
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.