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Power Rank April/May - N/A and Europe

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Deezl
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States355 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 07:32:50
April 29 2011 06:59 GMT
#1
Haha, well I said I'd be back for the power rank round two and so I am. Admittedly, Europe is not my forte so much as the NA scene is, and right now it seems just about impossible to rank anyone over there accurately because its kind of a blood bath. So I decided to break down and pull up the tournament results, of which there are a lot, check out the league ratings like the Go4SC2 Cup and others, and watch a few VoDs. And what I've come up with is that ThorZain is the best player in Europe, because MC beat WhiteRa and ThorZain beat MC and WhiteRa beat everyone else...

No really, I think that's how some people think sometimes on the interweb. And many of you may be wondering about my own credentials to post; for this you can check out my North American power rank, which to my surprise was very well-received. I expect this one to go up in flames, because there is so much talent jammed into the top 30 players in Europe that its almost impossible to rank outside the top three, and hard to put the top three in any order, particularly due to the interactions with great NA and Korean players, so feel free to add your gently voiced opinions at the bottom of the page and remind me of what I missed.

1. Naniwa - Dignitas
I really really wanted White-Ra in the #1 spot. I really did. But Naniwa has been beasting everyone, and though White-Ra really only loses to oGsMC, but all of a sudden MC drops several big games and seems mortal, and this doesn't bode well for Vodka Drop Protoss. Naniwa vs. Kas in TSL final, I'm calling it right now and its going to be epic. Naniwa destroyed MLG. Naniwa then destroyed another tournament, I think in Britain. Naniwa is destroying the TSL, and I think did everyone a favor by beating Cruncher in PvP. He is the destroyer and really deserves this spot.

2. White-Ra - Duckload
(thick Russian, ahem Ukrainian accent) Beat oGsMC in Vodka drink game one time, but MinChul develop tolerance. Now lose in bad bracket not have second chance for TSL, and need to make more appearance online. Still, win many tournaments and place second and beat very good player a lot of time, and have scary build and mid game with many actions. Other players need to take game to next level to beat White-Ra and anticipate sneaky zealot.

3. Kas - Empire
Russia is technically not a part of Europe. But that's ok, we're down with Russia here at the Power Rank. This guy is results monster, he plays in every online qualifier and always sits second or third. Now he faces Thorzain in the TSL round of four and I think he's going to put Thorzain in a hospital bed. It's Kas' time to shine. I'm not going to list his achievements but he's got a ridiculous medal case. Its really a pity the Russian players don't attend more live events, but at Copenhagen Kas lost to oGsMC in the finals and took second over a stack of great players. If only Thorzain were there to mess up the bracket! Kas also needs to win something. But he beats the good people, and I think his recent 3-0 vs. Grubby and only dropping one game until meeting oGsMC basically ties him for #2. Great player and I think we're all looking forward to the TSL Finals with him in it.

4. SjoW - Dignitas
SjoW wins a lot of games with timing pushes and scary tanks, but overall in watching a few VoDs, I think his opponents make more mistakes against his style than Kas or White-Ra's. Shortly after the fall of the MouseSports trifecta (Mana/Naama/Morrow), SjoW was the most dominant player in Europe, and dignitas the most dominant team. Now he's kind of riding that and I feel like people have started to figure him out, but still this guy does a ton of slaying and I think he's banked like $40,000 or so since the start of SC2? Not including sponsorships or salary. White-Ra however, is SjoW's bane, and lately, as in the last two weeks, I haven't seen much from SjoW that's impressed me like Kas and Naniwa have. SjoW sits easily at number four.

5. DIMAGA - MTW
Ok so DIMAGA is cruise control for bad-ass Zerg. He is so bad-ass right now that he gets a spot on here just for being bad ass and not really really striving to prove it. Or does taking out JulyZerg and then MVP and then Nestea in Korea have something to do with these here rankings? Awww hells yeah it does! He's also picked up wins against a few of the players above him as well, namely SjoW, so I think we'll see him continue to rise to prominence in the scene as he attends more events.

6. ThorZain - Praetoriani
Ok so ThorZain took out MC. Not cheesed. Not MC made a mistake. ThorZain won the series against MC 3-2 in macro games. ThorZain looked pretty damn sick, pulling out Ghosts vs. MC's DTs and making every single game look very winnable and he really showed his skill. I think he has a fair chance against Kas, who is the Russian equivalent of MC, but Kas is still favored. On the flipside, who the heck is ThorZain?

7. Grubby
Grubby's been showing up in a lot of places recently. Its kind of hard to rank him between the number six and number ten, but I really feel like he's accomplished more than ThorZain because he's been at the top of several very recent tournaments, and I really don't feel like Adel or Hasu are quite on his level. On the other side, he's been losing a lot, though in his defense he's been losing valiantly. And Grubby vs. Moon was as good of an opening as the NASL or any league is likely to have, ever. I think in six months we'll see Grubby on the top five of this rank as most improved, but for now, he sits calmly at number seven.

8. Hasu-Obs - MouseSports
Ok so there's MLG going on and Naniwa is like the only notable European to show up because there's this $3,100 baller LAN going on in Italy. Which is won by Hasu-Obs of all people. What the what? Hasu has been Huk fodder for like a year now. And then he wins a TLOpen, which is basically an act of god considering how many games you have to play, and now he's doing great in the TSL, 3-0 against Boxer of all people. I think Naniwa is more than his match, but Hasu has actually been performing in the mid-level leagues as well and in the NASL where he beat Goody but got kind of killed hard by SeleCT. Really hard to read this guy. His brackets have kind of seemed soft, and I can't find any evidence of his ability to beat the people above him, but he's been performing way above his average.

9. MorroW - MouseSports
MorroW is still an exceptional progamer with a great old-school style and a lot of skill. He's been showing amazing games in the NASL, beating TLO, pulling ahead of KiWiKaKi until KiWi could mothership, and continuing to put up results here and there. I feel like this guy is a bit underrepresented in Europe right now, which is weird to say considering his huge fanbase, but I've only seen him blink into epic tournaments and lose to epic players in the first round. Still, I feel like of all the EU Zergs, only MorroW and DIMAGA are standouts, and only those two stand a good chance against anyone on this power ranking. Still I'd like to see him attend more lans and not get pushed into massive brackets, and I'd like to see more consistency against the European names.

10. AdelScott - Millenium
OK so AdelScott's name has been floating around since he took out Huk in a PvP and got featured on Day[9] back in the very first days of SC2. He's supposedly not that good, but he keeps beating people. IMMvP for instance. Then a surprisingly on-form qxc. He even took a pretty good match off of Kas, though for the other three Kas was looking pretty damn mighty. But sometimes he just doesn't feel that good and doesn't look that good either, and makes bad decisions fairly often. He gets #10 because he meandered there via a winding road not without its dips and turns, but he still gets it based on results.

My only Honorable Mention goes to TLO, still my favorite random player and still my favorite EU Terran. 5th at MLG is no joke considering his win over IdrA, but losing to iNControL, the master, lord and commander of the obvious, 4-2 is always very hard times for your spot on the power ranking. There's a few other names drifting in the wind, like online tournament monster mouzStrelok, Satinii who has been popping up here and there, SarenS who is universally agreed to be an amazing player and up-and-comer, and MYMClouD who is really good but far too inconsistent. But TLO seems to be the only player keeping Liquid afloat outside of Korea; Haypro is still mediocre in a world of really really good players, Ret has great mechanics but only makes drones in tournament matches, NonY doesn't play too much any more and even Huk kind of stopped being the player to watch. What can I say? Where you at, Liquid? The players that paved the way for Starcraft are being so quickly paved over, and I have to tip my hat to TLO for really trying hard, having fun, winning tournaments, and keeping this great team's candle alive.

Anyway this Power Rank is dedicated to my $5 on Empire.Kas winning the TSL. Every time Kas kills a base take a shot of Vodka <3

Three hundred lives of men I have walked this world, and now I have no time.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
April 29 2011 07:06 GMT
#2
I'm pretty positive Kas is Ukranian, not Russian.
Also, you might be overfavouring Thorzain a little too much. Power rank isn't that much about skill, it's also about results, and thorzain doesn't have any. Seeing it from a result perspective, he only got to the semifinals of a really stacked tournament. Beating MC fair is a pretty good indication of skill and/or potential, but that alone isn't imo enough to put him over morrow.
Otherwise, I pretty much agree.
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happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
April 29 2011 07:19 GMT
#3
Sorry, but Grubby shouldn't even be on this list
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
April 29 2011 07:25 GMT
#4
On April 29 2011 16:19 happyness wrote:
Sorry, but Grubby shouldn't even be on this list

Yeah, not only that but Grubby is not even on EG lol
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tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
April 29 2011 07:30 GMT
#5
Hah! My prediction of your power rank was relatively accurate

However, I think ThorZaIN should be higher up the list. Despite his not winning any recent tournaments or even doing well in offline tournaments, he's gone through the toughest, most stacked, most prestigious route of the TSL, which I believe to be the most prestigious international tournament thus far.

Ask a player with some prior background in Starcraft whether they'd like to win the NASL or the TSL, and they will most likely say the TSL unless they're desperately attracted to the extra money of the NASL. On paper, the TSL is far more prestigious with it having the best players of the entire world, and it being a knock-out elimination-style championship.

For that reason alone, I think ThorZaIN's incredible play, builds, preparation and execution warrants a spot in the top 4. This man beat Fruitdealer, Tyler and MC in consecutive BoXs. There is no one left in the TSL who could have done that IMO, especially with standard play like how ThorZaIN has done.

Also, I'd consider Russia to be part of Europe, politically if not entirely so geographically. They are part of the EU and part of UEFA.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10842 Posts
April 29 2011 07:36 GMT
#6
I think Socke belongs somewhere in there or at least should be mentioned, not mentioning him even once seems a little strange to me .
Deezl
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States355 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 07:46:15
April 29 2011 07:43 GMT
#7
Yeah but FruitDealer isn't that good and Tyler has been mediocre as of late, and if you look at this particular list I think he hasn't beaten any of them. The other thing about the TSL is that you literally get half a month to study and prepare for your opponent, and MC has too much to do to really prepare and study for ThorZain the way ThorZain can focus on him. Don't overthink it and way overweight the top tournaments; read into their macro, mechanics and overall consistency and the way they played. You need to have your name appear in several places with medals next to it to top a power Rank, and the consensus is that he'll be taking the L to Kas. And I think if you ask the players if they'd rather have the money or the prestige, they'd rather have the money.

Grubby took third at Copenhagen and has shown amazing games every time he plays, losing often but showing talent and not losing to randoms.

No socke is a good point, but he's ... not that good. He's like Goody. But better.
Three hundred lives of men I have walked this world, and now I have no time.
phisku
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Belgium864 Posts
April 29 2011 07:45 GMT
#8
kas is from Ukraine
Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
April 29 2011 08:59 GMT
#9
Socke should be on this list. Grubby should absolutely not. TLO, playing terran now, has been showing very strong play once again. 1-4 are solid, 5-10 are somewhat sketchy, easy to argue for or against their positions.... But yea, take out grubby, throw in Socke (or TLO), you got a good basis to work with.
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zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
April 29 2011 09:18 GMT
#10
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Tppz!
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1449 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 11:02:27
April 29 2011 11:02 GMT
#11
is like the only notable European to show up because there's this $3,100 baller LAN going on in Italy

Thats just wrong:
Stareagle, GoOdy, Cloud, Delphi and someone else I think participated in that tournament.

Though in my opinion there are better players than Grubby and AdelScott in Europe.


And Dimaga didnt show any results in tournaments for month. This GSLWC was a good shot by him but he didnt face a protoss. U cant rank player who dont play a lot or dont show any results. (Sure I really like Dimaga and he is a great player but a powerrank should only show those who show some results. Having someone who is pretty good in 2 Matchups but sucks hard in1 aint worth a spot in a top 10)
BGrael
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany229 Posts
April 29 2011 11:14 GMT
#12
Lol I like how you wrote PR Place 2 White-Ra I think I would put Kas on second spot and HasuObs and Thorzain somewhat higher, and I think you forgot Kiwikaki.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10842 Posts
April 29 2011 11:43 GMT
#13
I think you didn't read if you want Kiwikaki in this .
SweetAs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
New Zealand290 Posts
April 29 2011 11:57 GMT
#14
Dimaga only 5? what is this. Good write up none the less XD
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vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
April 29 2011 14:11 GMT
#15
Grubby shouldn't be on the list. He is still behind protoss players like Socke, Nightend, Hasu, Adelscott and Mana.

Socke placed higher and defeated Sjow at the last two offline events (MLG and the one in England) and definitely should be on that list.
Deezl
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States355 Posts
April 30 2011 07:37 GMT
#16
On April 29 2011 20:02 Tppz! wrote:
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is like the only notable European to show up because there's this $3,100 baller LAN going on in Italy

Thats just wrong:
Stareagle, GoOdy, Cloud, Delphi and someone else I think participated in that tournament.

Though in my opinion there are better players than Grubby and AdelScott in Europe.


And Dimaga didnt show any results in tournaments for month. This GSLWC was a good shot by him but he didnt face a protoss. U cant rank player who dont play a lot or dont show any results. (Sure I really like Dimaga and he is a great player but a powerrank should only show those who show some results. Having someone who is pretty good in 2 Matchups but sucks hard in1 aint worth a spot in a top 10)


Dimaga got to the GSL World Championship by beating SjoW and someone else who I forgot pretty handily, and beating Koreans is actually really good for your rank on the power rank.

Goody Cloud etc showed up at the Italian tournament, not at MLG. And yes, I think AdelScott is really overrated, even on my own rank. I think iNControL is overrated on the other power rank. But they've been beating some really big heads.

And yeah on looking back I literally just blanked on a few players that should sit in Grubby's spot, namely Socke and TLO, but Grubby is still scary! :F
Three hundred lives of men I have walked this world, and now I have no time.
Tppz!
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1449 Posts
April 30 2011 08:10 GMT
#17
misread something with the MLG thingy.

Ok you said that Naniwa is the only notable european that showed up at mlg? If you mean the nonseated? Cause there were:

Sjow, Socke, TLO, Ret.
In the open bracket there had been: Naama, Grubby, Haypro.

Still Dimaga is pretty bad at ZvP and ths is why you cant put him on a power rank. Sure he can win tournaments if there is no Protoss in the tournament. But you gotta accept that this cant be true for one of the top 10 of EU/NA palyers O.o
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