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A Counting Problem

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blankspace
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States292 Posts
April 10 2011 12:45 GMT
#1
Draw n points on the circumference on a circle. Then connect all lines between all points on the circle. What is the maximum number of regions that the circle may be divided into?

Example: For the case n=3, you have a triangle inscribed in the center of the circle. The number of regions is thus 4. For the case n=4, you have a square with diagonals drawn, so that gets you 8.

I will tell you though that the answer is not 2^(n-1), but it is not complicated.

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Oracle
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 13:47:40
April 10 2011 13:15 GMT
#2
I think the answer is the (amount of faces of an n-complete graph) + n

I'll get back to you once i figure out the first part


EDIT: I dont think this is possible with my knowledge of graph theory, since # faces is ill-defined for non-planar graphs, and everything K_5 and above is nonplanar... and im stuck
Av4st
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada92 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 13:53:09
April 10 2011 13:42 GMT
#3
oops -- within the circle.. hmm
Oracle
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada411 Posts
April 10 2011 13:45 GMT
#4
On April 10 2011 22:42 getty wrote:
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1 + 2^(n-1)


for n = 5 you have

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which has 11 faces. Plus the 5 imaginary ones on the outside, so 16 total.

2^4 + 1 = 17
blankspace
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States292 Posts
April 10 2011 13:48 GMT
#5
I don't know if there is a good graph theory solution, but my solution for this does not use any. You need to find a clever way to count the regions.

Also note that the number of regions for n=7 is 57 so looking for some sort of 2^something formula is not going to work.
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Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 14:00:13
April 10 2011 13:56 GMT
#6
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/CompleteGraph.html

n(n-1) /2 + n

Gotta check if its right

nvm these are edges or something not correct.
Oracle
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada411 Posts
April 10 2011 14:04 GMT
#7
# VERTICES | # EDGES | # FACES
3 | 3 | 1 + 3 = 4
4 | 6 | 4 + 4 = 8
5 | 10 | 11 + 5 = 16
6 | 15 | 24 + 6 = 30
7 | 21 | 50 + 7 = 57

For anyone else attempting a graph-theory approach
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 15:23:17
April 10 2011 15:20 GMT
#8
n/m..
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 15:44:34
April 10 2011 15:43 GMT
#9
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(x^4-6x^3+23x^2-18x+24)/24
blankspace
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States292 Posts
April 10 2011 15:50 GMT
#10
@complete
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I think that is the correct answer, though you should realize that you can express it in a more elegant form (namely as the sum of binomial coefficients. What is your reasoning/how did you get the answer? Did you assume it was a polynomial and interpolated?
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n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
April 10 2011 16:17 GMT
#11
It looks to me like he graphed the first couple of n's and then used software to fit the data but thats just a guess
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LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 18:01:54
April 10 2011 17:54 GMT
#12
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C(n, 4) + C(n, 2) + 1

Number of lines drawn between n points can be expressed as a series (n-1)+(n-2)+...(n-(n-1))

Or more practical as binomial coefficient: C(n,2). Expressing number of possibilities to connect 2 points in an n point circle by a line.

C(n,4) gives the number of possible intersects between any 4 of the n points in the circle.

Adding them together and the extra region in the center (+1), gives you the total.

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Watched the spoilers for help....
blankspace
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States292 Posts
April 10 2011 18:22 GMT
#13
@LaluSh

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That is the correct answer Can you justify why your answer is correct though? As in why should counting these intersections give you the number of regions?
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JodoYodo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1772 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 18:31:40
April 10 2011 18:31 GMT
#14
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Every time a line intersects another line, you bisect two regions into four regions
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