EPTFrom the looks of the screenshot, it looks like it could've been taken during the early game shortly after the announcer shouts out the player names but before the overlays start fading in.
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eviltomahawk
United States11133 Posts
From the looks of the screenshot, it looks like it could've been taken during the early game shortly after the announcer shouts out the player names but before the overlays start fading in. | ||
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Lucumo
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On March 29 2011 05:25 zeru wrote: No idea, but if you "follow" a stream it notifies you when it goes online. Where is that option? Either my scripts are blocking it or such a function doesn't exist on livestream.com(or I'm just blind, rarely use it nowadays anyway). On March 29 2011 05:52 Megaliskuu wrote: Well from looking at the vods, it seems the overlay is not there for the first few seconds of the game..so I guess I've proved nothing ;;. Well, GOM has to prove something first anyway. So far, we only have a picture and not even a screenshot which is completely useless. | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
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IamBach
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Backpack
United States1776 Posts
On March 29 2011 06:06 etheovermind wrote: Why doesn't Gom actually post a screenshot of the stream rather than zooming in on the screen? You can't even see whether or not it really is Grobyc. Because they don't give a shit about what a few people on a forum want. They did what they did and a bunch of angry nerds aren't going to scare them. I suggest everyone just get over it as Grobyc already has. It's not the end of the world, and it's not the end of GOM's popularity. Getting mad about it will only ruin your day, not GOM's. | ||
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Hesmyrr
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nanashin
United States1584 Posts
On March 29 2011 02:42 zeru wrote: if they actually wanted to photoshop something they have professionals working for them. . Haven't really kept myself abreast with all things GOM, but up until 2009 they've been operating out of an old high school building. When I took a peek at the latest finals, in hope of catching sight of some lip-synching Secret, I found myself looking at a chart made by the their graphics department wherein player names were exploding through the margins of the graph. I, personally, would not go around making assumptions that they have access to 'professionals'. | ||
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Grobyc
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Chef
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So no fek
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rabidch
United States20288 Posts
On March 29 2011 06:39 Grobyc wrote: Well I'm just happy that they couldn't provided proper proof of me restreaming GSL, because I know I didn't. There's no way what they provided proves I did anything wrong, and I didn't expect anything less. I think I've been honest and I don't think GOM successfully achieved anything through this. If anything they have lost support. You guys can keep up the discussion if you like, but I don't think there's anything I need to say anymore. ditto. GOM lost my support long ago and I'm stopping completely. if i do end up watching sc2, it certainly wont be GSL. | ||
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Shana
Indonesia1814 Posts
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
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GOM.Sam
Korea (South)210 Posts
This is Sam from Gretech/GOM TV. Just to clear things up, I will explain how the livestream takedown tool works. A screenshot of what the channel is broadcasting at the time when a takedown is issued is automatically taken by the system. And the list of the takedowns are saved. A poor word choice by us perhaps but the 'screenshot' given to the user is from that list. We believe this 'proof' is something that will hold its ground at the court trials. With that being said, I personally do not know who the user is and many of us do not. Do not take this the wrong way but we do not have so much free time on our hands or hold personal grudges to go after a specific user. We have simply seen our content being broadcasted illegally and issued a take down of the channel. Nothing more, nothing less. Please note that we only request for takedowns of our 'own content', not BW contents created by other companies. Livestream suggests that if you have a definite proof to show that you have been wrongly accused, to contact them with a notice under proper DMCA counter notice guideline. You could contact them personally to obtain a better 'proof' from them if you wish. We will be glad to be proved that we have wrongly accused of you illegally restreaming our GSL, StarCraft 2 content. We will not be responding to this thread anymore and like we have suggested in the e-mail if you have problems, we recommend contacting our legal team and Livestream. P.S. Some of you were confused about the time. The channel was found broadcasting a GSL match at 05:45 AM EST on March 9th, 2011 (UTC of Livestream, which is located in NY, USA) which translates into 7:45 PM KST on March 9th, 2011 (before daylight savings). Code A Semifinals match was being broadcasted at the time. SlayerS_Alicia vs. oGsSuperNova to be exact. Edit: It does seem like I have mistaken the infringing material as a match from Code A Semifinals and I do apologize for the mistake. Please note that not only restreaming our content but having VODs of our content on the channel could be subjected to your channel being shutdown. And I do realize my word choices and ability to express are quite limited. When I said we do not have 'free time' I was pointing out that we do not flag one user and follow his every single move on the Internet. | ||
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Wala.Revolution
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QuickStriker
United States3694 Posts
A screenshot of what the channel is broadcasting at the time when a takedown is issued is automatically taken by the system. And the list of the takedowns are saved. Exhibit #1: So GOM claims that at any given time and day, whatever content a channel may have at that point of the time is automatically recorded by the livestream system and saved. So they can look through any and every single channel that may have some sort of relation to GSL, SC2, w/e and claim that "screenshot" was taken at the time they mentioned and is sufficient evidence to claim copyright infringement and a takedown at end result? A poor word choice by us perhaps but the 'screenshot' given to the user is from that list. We believe this 'proof' is something that will hold its ground at the court trials. Exhibit #2: So GOM claims that this screenshot is from Groybc's channel at the time and this is enough evidence to win a possible court case against Groybc, implying they are strongly holding their ground and claim they are absolutely confident the jury, the lawyer, and the judge would accept this single piece of picture into their favor? Livestream suggests that if you have a definite proof to show that you have been wrongly accused, to contact them with a notice under proper DMCA counter notice guideline. You could contact them personally to obtain a better 'proof' from them if you wish. We will be glad to be proved that we have wrongly accused of you illegally restreaming our GSL, StarCraft 2 content. Exhibit #3: After stating that their one evidence is more than enough to take down Groybc's stream, they are reassuring and challenging their statement and word to contact livestream directly onwards regarding this issue and dare to be proven wrong to GOM. Overconfident? There's other things I want to go on but these three just mind boggles me. From these statement, I get the feeling GOM is so overconfident and correct of their statement that they are even willing to go to the court in order to prove themselves the absolute victor. They indirectly stated of a possible mistake could happen but are only willing if Groybc invest more of his time to prove his innocence which doesn't even guarantee his release nor promise anything except telling him that they will be "glad" to be proved wrong, giving him a dare contest with the darer not losing anything because everything they did was completely right (which I'm not objecting to that part but makes you wonder of a company that's supported and build largely on community..). Finally as if that isn't enough, GOM concluded their case and now tells Grobyc to take it to livestream and don't come back to them unless Grobyc have something that accepts GOM to be proven wrong. That's real nice GOM, real nice for a company that builds its success on community and PRs and popularity. Now free feel for anyone to correct me if I was wrong or misguided at any form or any way but this is how I saw GOM's message display to Grobyc and to us, the community. Also feel free to pick at other things I didn't pick out on the message since I only saw these three parts in my eyes to comment on. | ||
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prototype.
Canada4190 Posts
On March 29 2011 11:52 GOM.Sam wrote: P.S. Some of you were confused about the time. The channel was found broadcasting a GSL match at 05:45 AM EST on March 9th, 2011 (UTC of Livestream, which is located in NY, USA) which translates into 7:45 PM KST on March 9th, 2011 (before daylight savings). Code A Semifinals match was being broadcasted at the time. SlayerS_Alicia vs. oGsSuperNova to be exact. On scrap station? nope. | ||
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Lucumo
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On March 29 2011 11:52 GOM.Sam wrote: P.S. Some of you were confused about the time. The channel was found broadcasting a GSL match at 05:45 AM EST on March 9th, 2011 (UTC of Livestream, which is located in NY, USA) which translates into 7:45 PM KST on March 9th, 2011 (before daylight savings). Code A Semifinals match was being broadcasted at the time. SlayerS_Alicia vs. oGsSuperNova to be exact. I don't know about GSL because I don't watch it but according to the LR thread, the matches ended at about 7:06 PM KST. So...I guess they show the replays like 40 minutes later? But that doesn't even matter. The map on the screenshot is Scrap Station, but that can't be, because... On March 09 2011 14:58 skrzmark wrote: Set 1:  Alicia < Crossfire SE >  SuperNoVaSet 2: Alicia < Shakuras Plateau > SuperNoVaSet 3: Alicia < Xel'Naga Caverns > SuperNoVa...they didn't play on that map. And it doesn't help, that the screenshot is conveniently right from after the start of the match. Meh, started my post right before you wrote your one :/ | ||
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Lucumo
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LosingID8
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