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Nufo
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States186 Posts
February 04 2011 16:45 GMT
#1
So yesterday I was kind of busy and did not ladder as much as I hoped I would. I did ladder A measly 5 games and encountered one good player. I got matched against him and didnt find out until after the game that he was silver. It was a TvT on Xel'Naga Caverns. I hate TvT just for the fact that the winner usually is the one who ends up getting better positioning with his tanks or has superior harassment. I started off by walling at the bottom of my ramp and then put a bunker in between two supply depots. He walled in as all usually Terrans do which is at the top of the ramp.

I scouted him early on and saw that he had a reactor his barracks and was building a factory. His whole army at about 6 minutes consisted of pure marines. I decided that tanks would be a good way to go since they shred through marine and bio balls in general. I got out about two tanks and had a decent number of marauders and marines when he pushed out into my ramp. He had sieged outside my base and had a soft contain on me. I had a banshee so i started kiting his tanks and marauders.

He got tired of this little harassment and decided to unsiege all his tanks and try to siege at the bottom of my ramp. I stimmed and quickly demolished all his 5 tanks and bio ball army. I counter-attacked but it was very unsuccessful as I lost all my marines and marauders. I came back to base with only one tanks. I expo'd and converted my CC into a planetary. As soon as I landed he dropped in my base and destroyed a lot of my building including my orbital CC at my original spawning spot. I destroyed all his dropped units except one Thor that escaped I pushed out with some tanks an a very small bio ball. I saw that he was about to expo and decided to siege my tanks next to his ramp and tried to snipe his expo. This was unsuccessful because he had siege tanks guarding it. My tanks took apart his ramp and Thors guarding it. He tried to drop a Thor on my tanks but I attacked with my bio ball. He gg'd as soon as he lost that Thor.

This felt seriously like I had been playing against a Platinum or Diamond Terran. As soon as I lost I quickly scoped out his profile. He was only a silver Terran :/ Needless to say this was a hard fought battle that I only managed to win because of my superior micro and positioning.
I'm hoping to see more matches that turn out this way in the future. I love when I win hard fought battles and games like this make me want to play every hour of the day.
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Copenap
Profile Joined October 2010
723 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-04 17:10:18
February 04 2011 17:07 GMT
#2
This somehow confuses me o_O

1. I first thought you played against Silver, because you said it was a good player -_-
2. Since when Terran usually walls in in a TvT?
3. Why do you kite Marauder and Tanks?

Well, nevertheless congrats for your superior micro and positioning.
Nufo
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States186 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-04 17:16:29
February 04 2011 17:14 GMT
#3
1.No i said a silver player.
2.Terrans usually wall in against all races.
3.You kite marauder and tanks since they cant attack air lol.
cody1024d
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
107 Posts
February 04 2011 17:16 GMT
#4
Nufo, you should be careful walling in, against protoss and Terran. Both races have means to abuse your wallin, and snipe buildings for free.

Terran can get siege mode, and a snipe on a key supply depot can cost you the game. Also, since all of Terran is ranged-attackers walling in doesn't actually do much.

Protoss can do a variety of builds, most focusing on voidrays, to abuse the wall-in to out-range your marines. These can be very hard to stop with a wall, or buildings at your ramp in general.
No point in half-assing it.
Copenap
Profile Joined October 2010
723 Posts
February 04 2011 17:16 GMT
#5
On February 05 2011 02:14 Nufo wrote:
1.no i said a silver player.
2.Terrans usually wall in against all races.
3.You kite marauder and tanks since they cant attack air lol.


Now you're trolling me, right? -_-
Nufo
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States186 Posts
February 04 2011 17:20 GMT
#6
I know I have seen all the oGsMC games where he picked off Terran wall ins with Void Rays. I like to wall in early game to prevent scouting. I know there is always those posing threats of siege tanks and void rays but eventually my wall in become the second wall once I expo so I am never really worried of losing supply later in the game unless I get steam rolled o.O
Nufo
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States186 Posts
February 04 2011 17:21 GMT
#7
Now you're trolling me, right? -_-


No don't you see the obvious? Why wouldnt you kite tanks and marauders with a banshee? It's free kills......It would be idiotic to just leave your banshee doing nothing instead of getting free and fairly easy kills.
Copenap
Profile Joined October 2010
723 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-04 17:27:17
February 04 2011 17:26 GMT
#8
On February 05 2011 02:21 Nufo wrote:
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Now you're trolling me, right? -_-


No don't you see the obvious? Why wouldnt you kite tanks and marauders with a banshee? It's free kills......It would be idiotic to just leave your banshee doing nothing instead of getting free and fairly easy kills.


Ok, if you're not trolling I will explain it to you.

You don't have to kite, because you can just go an f'n kill them. Kiting is taking advantage of superior range and speed e.g. Banshee vs. Marine, Stalker vs. Marine, effectively hit and run and as you stated, you obviously don't have to do that with a Banshee against Marauders and Tanks.
Nufo
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States186 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-04 17:28:49
February 04 2011 17:27 GMT
#9
He had marines with stim and Medievacs......I said in the post that he had a bio ball that consisted of MMM and tanks.
Copenap
Profile Joined October 2010
723 Posts
February 04 2011 17:31 GMT
#10
On February 05 2011 02:27 Nufo wrote:
He had marines with stim and Medievacs......


Now you're trolling again -_-

I suppose I have to watch the replay to see him chasing your banshees with his Marauders and Tanks while his Marines stim and run around the Medivacs o_O
Nufo
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States186 Posts
February 04 2011 17:48 GMT
#11
Your not understanding at all what I am saying watch the replay and you will understand.
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
February 04 2011 19:12 GMT
#12
^I think OP means that hes doing hit and run on the opposing players MnM+tank force with his banshees.
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
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