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Horrde
Canada302 Posts
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DND_Enkil
Sweden598 Posts
And you seriously ratted out your best friend to his GF? That is just... unthinkable to me, i might not agree with the choices my friends do, but i will defend them every step of the way and would never ever rat them out. That is just a douchebag move... I have known about some cheating, and have yealled at, screamed at, cursed at my friend at one time. But to actually rat on him? Never, i would rather end the friendship. | ||
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Horrde
Canada302 Posts
I suppose if you saw a friend of yours beating on a girl in the middle of street you'd walk on by too. What would your mentality be like? "Not my problem, I'm not involved. Who ever steps in is a total douchebag. She probably deserved it anyway." ??? Whats the difference? Mental and physical pain? Where do you draw the line when people start getting hurt? Clearly you draw it somewhere, because you'd willingly allow emotions to get crushed in front of you. Who's to say you wouldn't let a few broken bones happen either. What about her? Don't you think she'd subconsciously appreciate being told? Great society we live in. | ||
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
My old house had a similar roommate. His ONE FUCKING CHORE was to take the garbage out each week, and yet someone else had to do it at least half the time. Sooooo annoying. Just piled all his dirty dishes in the sink. Am I your maid or something? Eat a dick, and clean them yourself, or AT LEAST rinse them off before just letting old cereal/milk go bad in your room for 2 days before bringing it downstairs. FFFFFFFfffffuuuuuuuu | ||
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Ipp
United States456 Posts
On February 03 2011 23:24 Horrde wrote: Ya, because the one doing the cheating isn't the biggest douchebag yet right? Its a shitty situation, but your doing a much lesser evil to overcome a greater one. If she's a good person, I'd tell her everytime. It's out of respect for her. In my opinion, the real "rat" is the shithead who's doing the cheating. I suppose if you saw a friend of yours beating on a girl in the middle of street you'd walk on by too. What would your mentality be like? "Not my problem, I'm not involved. Who ever steps in is a total douchebag. She probably deserved it anyway." ??? Whats the difference? Mental and physical pain? Where do you draw the line when people start getting hurt? Clearly you draw it somewhere, because you'd willingly allow emotions to get crushed in front of you. Who's to say you wouldn't let a few broken bones happen either. What about her? Don't you think she'd subconsciously appreciate being told? Great society we live in. Couldn't of said that better myself. Just because they are a friend doesn't mean they are always correct. I believe a good friend will stand up to his friends when they do something wrong; there is never an excuse for cheating. A friend will help a friend out of any situation but that doesn't mean he shouldn't look after himself first, after becoming part of the situation. By doing anything in someones house you affiliate them with the action; sure I'm not legally in trouble by cheating, but it would taint my character which is everlasting. Think back in school at all the teachers you hated; weren't they the best ones? You hate them because they pushed you and overall were the more beneficial to you than the ones who let you just walk all over them. | ||
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
On February 03 2011 23:24 Horrde wrote: Ya, because the one doing the cheating isn't the biggest douchebag yet right? Its a shitty situation, but your doing a much lesser evil to overcome a greater one. If she's a good person, I'd tell her everytime. It's out of respect for her. In my opinion, the real "rat" is the shithead who's doing the cheating. I suppose if you saw a friend of yours beating on a girl in the middle of street you'd walk on by too. What would your mentality be like? "Not my problem, I'm not involved. Who ever steps in is a total douchebag. She probably deserved it anyway." ??? Whats the difference? Mental and physical pain? Where do you draw the line when people start getting hurt? Clearly you draw it somewhere, because you'd willingly allow emotions to get crushed in front of you. Who's to say you wouldn't let a few broken bones happen either. What about her? Don't you think she'd subconsciously appreciate being told? Great society we live in. I blame Jersey Shore. But I gots to watch it every Thursday bro. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Horrde
Canada302 Posts
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32130 Posts
jealous much?? no wonder why youve been single for so long and why your roomie could care less about making you happy | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On February 04 2011 02:40 Horrde wrote: Your explanation was horrible. Nice reply buddy. You leave a one liner as a response, not even critiquing my logic, but isolating an example. Yeah, really justifying your point. Get some morals and then get back to me. Tell me oh wise leader, where is my logic flawed? Unbelievable. I didn't comment on it because I said all I had wanted to say. My neutral argument would have went along the lines that it comes down to values: respect one's business or follow your morals and intervene. Don't be provocative and look for a fight purely because of your passion in discussion. If I wanted to nitpick your examples and continue to banter with you, then I would do so. But I already know whatever I say won't change your mind or convince and thus I will save my energy. If you're going to be critical because of my choice to step away from an argument, you need to set your focus on other more important things. Thanks. | ||
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Helios.Star
United States548 Posts
On February 03 2011 23:24 Horrde wrote: Ya, because the one doing the cheating isn't the biggest douchebag yet right? Its a shitty situation, but your doing a much lesser evil to overcome a greater one. If she's a good person, I'd tell her everytime. It's out of respect for her. In my opinion, the real "rat" is the shithead who's doing the cheating. I suppose if you saw a friend of yours beating on a girl in the middle of street you'd walk on by too. What would your mentality be like? "Not my problem, I'm not involved. Who ever steps in is a total douchebag. She probably deserved it anyway." ??? Whats the difference? Mental and physical pain? Where do you draw the line when people start getting hurt? Clearly you draw it somewhere, because you'd willingly allow emotions to get crushed in front of you. Who's to say you wouldn't let a few broken bones happen either. What about her? Don't you think she'd subconsciously appreciate being told? Great society we live in. You are seriously comparing physical violence against women to being unfaithful to your partner? There is a HUGE difference, and its pretty sad you cant see it. Do you not see a difference between rape and cheating also? | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On February 04 2011 07:53 Helios.Star wrote: You are seriously comparing physical violence against women to being unfaithful to your partner? There is a HUGE difference, and its pretty sad you cant see it. Do you not see a difference between rape and cheating also? You can't argue with someone who has logical fallacies. | ||
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MapleFractal
Canada307 Posts
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On February 04 2011 07:53 Helios.Star wrote: You are seriously comparing physical violence against women to being unfaithful to your partner? There is a HUGE difference, and its pretty sad you cant see it. Do you not see a difference between rape and cheating also? There's a difference because people tell you there's a difference. You don't know how each thing effects people individually. I've seen people who got cheated on and they were DEVASTATED. To not acknowledge emotional pain is to be completely ignorant. It's like if your partner is in love with someone else, saying all their inner feelings to this other person sharing their thoughts etc. Technically it's not cheating but for me that'd be alot worse than my partner hooking up with a person randomly one night. Just because there's no phyiscal interaction does not mean it's not as horrible. To have your trust violated with someone you thought you could trust completely is not a comparable experience. If you don't understand that then you've never trusted someone enough, and then had that trust violated. (sure there are obviously psychological aspects to getting beat up/raped etc) I thought it was a fantastic point, I'd never let any of my friends who were girls get beat up physically or emotionally. | ||
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kOre
Canada3642 Posts
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
Now tell us a little bit more about your early engagement. | ||
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lastmotion
368 Posts
On February 04 2011 02:45 Haemonculus wrote: Turn it around then. If your girlfriend was fucking other guys behind your back, wouldn't you want to know about it? Especially so if you were seriously attached to her? you can't turn it around. he's specifically friends with the boyfriend, not friends with the girlfriend. everyone wants to know the truth, but it wasn't the OP's place to tell it. If the OP was best friends with the girl INSTEAD, it's definitely justified. But that's not the case. it's definately not OP's business to tell the girl about what his friend does bros before hoes rule always apply no matter what yes its bad for him to do it, but I think it's just as bad for the OP to rat out on his friend you need to talk to your roommate and have a good talk about things, not hold it up inside he might not be employed, but he might be unlucky. It can happen to anyone. Shouldn't you rather feel sorry for the guy rather than looking at him negatively? I'm sure he would rather have a job too, its just an unfortunate circumstance OP, you're being an major asshole here, instead of wanting to support your friend during his unemployed days (which can happen to anyone), you label him as a slacker and use that as another reason to dislike him. Hell, you don't even know why he got fired and u just assumed he skipped too much. How does it affect you that he lost his job? As long as he pays his bills, why is it something you should dislike him for? I would NOT want to live with a guy like OP | ||
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ulszz
Jamaica1787 Posts
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
On February 04 2011 14:17 lastmotion wrote: you can't turn it around. he's specifically friends with the boyfriend, not friends with the girlfriend. everyone wants to know the truth, but it wasn't the OP's place to tell it. If the OP was best friends with the girl INSTEAD, it's definitely justified. But that's not the case. it's definately not OP's business to tell the girl about what his friend does bros before hoes rule always apply no matter what yes its bad for him to do it, but I think it's just as bad for the OP to rat out on his friend you need to talk to your roommate and have a good talk about things, not hold it up inside he might not be employed, but he might be unlucky. It can happen to anyone. Shouldn't you rather feel sorry for the guy rather than looking at him negatively? I'm sure he would rather have a job too, its just an unfortunate circumstance OP, you're being an major asshole here, instead of wanting to support your friend during his unemployed days (which can happen to anyone), you label him as a slacker and use that as another reason to dislike him. Hell, you don't even know why he got fired and u just assumed he skipped too much. How does it affect you that he lost his job? As long as he pays his bills, why is it something you should dislike him for? I would NOT want to live with a guy like OP Let me get this straight. OP is being an asshole because someone is pretty clearly (in my opinion) taking advantage of his generous nature. He already answered all your points : he isn't paying bills (although the OP agreed to that so it's hard to hold that against him at this point), he did have talks with him which amounted to nothing, and he's hanging out with a bad crowd which is why he's assuming the worst for his layoff and the possibilities for the future. I have a friend who JUST got out of a similar roommate situation. Didn't pay the bills, didn't hold a steady job, a pain to be around. He promised him he would pay everything back despite always being late on rent and all the services. My friend got into some decent debt (nothing major but a setback for a few months for sure) until he had enough and canceled all his services, contracts and moved elsewhere. He's never going to see a cent that is owed to him, because some people are just that terrible. This feels like a pretty similar situation to me, and I get that feeling because that's what the OP himself wrote. Clearly, since he's the one living this situation, he knows best how it's going to end. It doesn't take a genius to figure out when someone is using you. Still, props to the TL community. Most forums are usually 100% "cheating is OK" posts in these type of discussions so it's nice to see an actual debate where only half of the people are on that side of the subject for a change (which is about the % of people that cheat anyway). Where else could you find people with normal morals on the cesspool of crap known as the internet. | ||
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