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newvsoldschool
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
428 Posts
January 31 2011 18:09 GMT
#1
Ever read someone's post, blog entry, or really, anything that requires typing? You continue, then all of a sudden, you see a spelling mistake, and thought that the person's lost *all* credibility because he can't even pay attention to such a small detail.

Can you tolerate spelling mistakes? In what degree until you realized it's just another guy who googles everything (if he doesn't find an answer on the first results page he goes to wikipedia) as his source? Whatever happened to real education, what you actually know without going to google/wiki (and keeping your hands off the keyboard if you're not an expert in the subject)?

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"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists... I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." -Midas, Brood War Progamer
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
January 31 2011 18:13 GMT
#2
Do you ever consider that many posters might not have English as their primary language?
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
January 31 2011 18:18 GMT
#3
I've come to accept that misspellings/incorrect punctuation/capitalization are just a part of internet discourse. In my opinion disregarding someone on the internet for misspelling a word is kind of like disregarding someone in real life for using a slang word. Yes, we could all laboriously craft our posts to be perfect pieces of prose, but in the end we are a bunch of guys talking about a video game...so what's the big deal if a few letters are out of place?

Also, as Stylish pointed out, TL is a very international community, and many of our members haven't been speaking/writing in english their entire lives.
MoreFaSho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1427 Posts
January 31 2011 18:19 GMT
#4
On February 01 2011 03:13 StylishVODs wrote:
Do you ever consider that many posters might not have English as their primary language?

This. Although I often treat a person with bad grammar/spelling from foreign countries much nicer and give them the benefit of the doubt more often. That being said, a lot of the most annoying people on TL are people from the United States who can't spell and make 100's of troll posts while not getting banned by some weird miracle/coincidence.
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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
January 31 2011 18:19 GMT
#5
I have found native English speakers to make much more stupid spelling mistakes than people who speak English as their second language. Lots and lots of English speakers cannot handle homophones and mess them up all the time, thus making them look like idiots:
there - their - they're
your - you're
its - it's
lose - loose
And then there's this annoying should of / could of / would of crap.
Altar
Profile Joined May 2008
United States577 Posts
January 31 2011 18:21 GMT
#6
The only thing that really bothers me is lose/loose, at least your and you're sound similar. Other then that one word I don't really mind.
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newvsoldschool
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
428 Posts
January 31 2011 18:22 GMT
#7
I think you can kind of tell if English isn't their first language, but still tolerate their post because it sounds correct. I know it sounds condescending now, but it's easy to tell if a post has little effort put into it, and the post has no more content than what you'd see on google's first page of results.
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists... I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." -Midas, Brood War Progamer
Reason.SC2
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1047 Posts
January 31 2011 18:22 GMT
#8
On February 01 2011 03:13 StylishVODs wrote:
Do you ever consider that many posters might not have English as their primary language?


Normally if I see basic spelling and grammar mistakes in a post I cannot help but lose confidence in the competence of the poster. However I remind myself that he/she might not be a native English speaker so I try not to let it affect my judgment too much... (although sometimes I can't help but stop reading when i see "too" instead of "to" or "they're" instead of "their", etc.)
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
January 31 2011 18:24 GMT
#9
I feel the exact same way as you OP. If I am reading a newspaper article and see 'its' when it should be 'it's', I pretty much rage quit it regardless of how much I was enjoying it.
Slivered Skin
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada347 Posts
January 31 2011 18:24 GMT
#10
Right, I forgot that being a foreigner or having other strengths besides written English meant a general lack of knowledge or intelligence.

I'll let Jinro know the next time he posts on TL. Or IdrA, with his lack of capitalization. Or MarineKing, if he ever posts in the "who's who" threads again. Or TLO, or pretty much any non-American/English progamer.

Those darn foreigners should know better than to try to act smart. Oh, and I apologize for any spelling or grammatical errors in my post; I'm just a lousy francophone. I'm sorry I'll never be as good as you.
Those most oft mated find love’s motive in a word: inebriated - Get well Violet!! And sC!! T_T
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
January 31 2011 18:25 GMT
#11
On February 01 2011 03:13 StylishVODs wrote:
Do you ever consider that many posters might not have English as their primary language?


On TL you just check the country of origin, if it's an English-speaking country you can be 95% sure it's their primary language. And then you can commence rage.
AnodyneSea
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Jamaica757 Posts
January 31 2011 18:28 GMT
#12
There was a really good post about a guy who basically writes papers for people and is a very good related subject to what you're posting here. I would link but I can't find it, anyone else know what I'm referring to and can post it?
Lost within the hope of freedom, not for control but in the light of our cause
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-31 18:28:58
January 31 2011 18:28 GMT
#13
On February 01 2011 03:25 sc4k wrote:
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On February 01 2011 03:13 StylishVODs wrote:
Do you ever consider that many posters might not have English as their primary language?


On TL you just check the country of origin, if it's an English-speaking country you can be 95% sure it's their primary language. And then you can commence rage.


unless you're american. then you can just be plain ignorant and make a blog about it! ^_^
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Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
January 31 2011 18:29 GMT
#14
On February 01 2011 03:28 AnodyneSea wrote:
There was a really good post about a guy who basically writes papers for people and is a very good related subject to what you're posting here. I would link but I can't find it, anyone else know what I'm referring to and can post it?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=169816
newvsoldschool
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
428 Posts
January 31 2011 18:30 GMT
#15
On February 01 2011 03:24 Slivered Skin wrote:
Right, I forgot that being a foreigner or having other strengths besides written English meant a general lack of knowledge or intelligence.

I'll let Jinro know the next time he posts on TL. Or IdrA, with his lack of capitalization. Or MarineKing, if he ever posts in the "who's who" threads again. Or TLO, or pretty much any non-American/English progamer.

Those darn foreigners should know better than to try to act smart. Oh, and I apologize for any spelling or grammatical errors in my post; I'm just a lousy francophone. I'm sorry I'll never be as good as you.


We're talking about random people here, your average poster (not just the TL forums but anywhere on the net). When you're referring to a known poster, he already has a "built-in" credibility in your mind.
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists... I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." -Midas, Brood War Progamer
Horrde
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada302 Posts
January 31 2011 18:30 GMT
#16
Spelling mistakes aren't much of a concern for me I find. They're very easy to sift through. I think TL is very high on the written communication scale considering it's an online forum.

What you mentioned that does bother me quite frequently is the amount of self-proclaimed experts we seem to have. There's a lot of good information here, but there's a lot of misinformation as well. The other thing worse than leaving out good information is substituting it for something that is incorrect, and it's done pretty often around here sometimes. Often posts that are asking for knowledge on a subject seem to be met with "I dunno lol, but it makes sense to me to do blah blah blah."

There's very few people here I give credibility to right off the bat. These are the ones that have shown maturity and a reasonable degree of thought in their posts. And I do stress very few. Realizing the good majority is teenagers and young adults (myself included), it's hard to give legitimate respect where credit is deserved. There's no bullshit filter here, and that's partly why I love it; a bit of knowledge, and a bit of ignorance. To be honest, most people just talk out of their ass, convinced in themselves they know what they're talking about. Silently laughing is half the fun.
Slivered Skin
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada347 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-31 18:32:57
January 31 2011 18:31 GMT
#17
On February 01 2011 03:28 AnodyneSea wrote:
There was a really good post about a guy who basically writes papers for people and is a very good related subject to what you're posting here. I would link but I can't find it, anyone else know what I'm referring to and can post it?


This it?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=169816

EDIT: Ninja'd
Those most oft mated find love’s motive in a word: inebriated - Get well Violet!! And sC!! T_T
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15330 Posts
January 31 2011 18:36 GMT
#18
On February 01 2011 03:19 MorefaSho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2011 03:13 StylishVODs wrote:
Do you ever consider that many posters might not have English as their primary language?

That being said, a lot of the most annoying people on TL are people from the United States who can't spell and make 100's of troll posts while not getting banned by some weird miracle/coincidence.

Is that really a problem? Can you name these individuals please?
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
January 31 2011 18:38 GMT
#19
On February 01 2011 03:21 Altar wrote:
The only thing that really bothers me is lose/loose, at least your and you're sound similar. Other then that one word I don't really mind.


I see that the difference between 'then' and 'than' doesn't bother you.

I really dislike when people use 'should of' 'instead of should have'. It just doesn't make sense grammatically.

ॐ
Slivered Skin
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada347 Posts
January 31 2011 18:39 GMT
#20
On February 01 2011 03:30 newvsoldschool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2011 03:24 Slivered Skin wrote:
Right, I forgot that being a foreigner or having other strengths besides written English meant a general lack of knowledge or intelligence.

I'll let Jinro know the next time he posts on TL. Or IdrA, with his lack of capitalization. Or MarineKing, if he ever posts in the "who's who" threads again. Or TLO, or pretty much any non-American/English progamer.

Those darn foreigners should know better than to try to act smart. Oh, and I apologize for any spelling or grammatical errors in my post; I'm just a lousy francophone. I'm sorry I'll never be as good as you.


We're talking about random people here, your average poster (not just the TL forums but anywhere on the net). When you're referring to a known poster, he already has a "built-in" credibility in your mind.


I'm a random person, an average poster. I'll make sure to try to avoid posting in any forums you frequent, as I don't want to offend your delicate sensibilities with my sub-par second-language.

And even if you can look at someone's country and make assumptions about his first language, you have to remember that the kid might be an unbelievable math whiz who just isn't that good at English, or something of the sort. You can't just start disregarding someone because their English isn't as good as yours. That's incredibly presumptuous.

You know what I really dislike on TL these days? The arrogance and self-entitlement that many newer posters seem to have. They feel like they're always right and that everyone should conform to their standards. Forum guidelines? No need. Known player giving advice? He's a noob. Person writing with inferior English? Must be stupid.

Get a grip on your priorities, and start respecting posts for their content, not the way they are written.
Those most oft mated find love’s motive in a word: inebriated - Get well Violet!! And sC!! T_T
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