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Hey TeamLiquid,
I wonder what  sAviOr is doing now after the match fixing scandal? According to Wikipedia he is banned from all professional competitions now which means no more being as a progamer. Maybe anyone has some sources what he's doing now? Poker? Jail? Work? Military?
For those who doesn't know him(hello New SC2 community, some BW HistOry lessons here), he has been one of the greatest players in BW HistOry from ~2005-~2007. Sadly every Prime has an End and he got 3-0'ed by  Bisu. Since then MJY couldn't win any more significant events except Blizzcon '08.
Around april '10 he was involved in match fixing scandals just like other progamers like Luxury,  Hwasin, YellOw[ArnC], go.go and some more.
for more information look these threads:
I would be grateful for more information about what those guys do now. I mean most of them won't have a proper education I guess... and now they can't be progamer anymore.
edit: TLPD is bugged for savior?
 
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I too would be curious to know what he is up to. Wasn't he sentenced to like 18 months in jail?
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About being banned from all professional competition, I think that's only for kespa leagues
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On January 09 2011 03:44 Julmust wrote:
About being banned from all professional competition, I think that's only for kespa leagues
GSL refuses to accept people who was involved in the match-fixing
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On January 09 2011 03:44 etheovermind wrote:
I too would be curious to know what he is up to. Wasn't he sentenced to like 18 months in jail?
Yes he was, but in Korea for an offense like that you can just do community service and probation instead of the jail time, which is what all of the progamers involved would be doing.
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Wouldn't the match fixing scandal affect his future career?
I would be surprised if he finds some decent job.
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On January 09 2011 03:51 MuffinDude wrote:
Wouldn't the match fixing scandal affect his future career?
I would be surprised if he finds some decent job.
Well I think his career in sports and media is pretty much done, but I think if he'd want to go law school or med school, or even get high up in some business(or start his own one?), he'd still have a decent shot at it.
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In korea when you do something really embarassing or bad, people tend to go underground. Literally translated 'submerging', they keep to themselves and only keep in touch with family and closest of friends. Given his meteoric fall from grace, i wouldn't be surprised if he has done the same. We probably won't hear anything about this guy for a while longer. Anyways, i don't think he has a future in esports anymore so he'll probably just work on different things.
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He secretly plots his revenge in hiding.... We must find a hero to combat the EVIL MA JAE YOON!
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On January 09 2011 04:07 Juxx wrote:
He secretly plots his revenge in hiding.... We must find a hero to combat the EVIL MA JAE YOON!
lol bisu better be very careful
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On January 09 2011 04:13 etheovermind wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2011 04:07 Juxx wrote:
He secretly plots his revenge in hiding.... We must find a hero to combat the EVIL MA JAE YOON! lol bisu better be very careful
Bisu slew Savior in his prime, and then beat him again when he tried to make a comeback later on in 07 in the OSL. Savior stands no chance
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On January 09 2011 03:51 MuffinDude wrote:
Wouldn't the match fixing scandal affect his future career?
I would be surprised if he finds some decent job.
apparently hwasin managed to use his looks to get a modelling job. but he probably ain't as in deep shit as savior is in
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On January 09 2011 04:05 Telcontar wrote:
In korea when you do something really embarassing or bad, people tend to go underground. Literally translated 'submerging', they keep to themselves and only keep in touch with family and closest of friends. Given his meteoric fall from grace, i wouldn't be surprised if he has done the same. We probably won't hear anything about this guy for a while longer. Anyways, i don't think he has a future in esports anymore so he'll probably just work on different things.
If he wrote a book I bet it would still sell tonnes! But I think Jaeyoon is the type to be too humiliated to do so. I got the impression he was a good guy and was really suffering with everything in his interviews. Something tells me an in depth version of his side of the story would incur sympathy from me.
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He's on a probation of sorts where if he doesn't screw up for like 18 months he's fine.
My guess is he's living a normal life, unrelated to video games.
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he's probably dealing with rolex and other fancy stuff
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On January 09 2011 04:49 nK)Duke wrote:
he's probably dealing with rolex and other fancy stuff
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/m9Dww.jpg)
:D old old old pic but a fun one
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As a Ma Jae Yoon fanboy im very curios whats up with him right now ;>. Hopefully he is doing atleast decently with his life.
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I thought he was sentenced to 18 months in jail?
edit: oh, now I read the thread lol. hmm, an interesting question...
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I was hoping he was in a jail somewhere =(
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On January 09 2011 05:35 PanN wrote:
I was hoping he was in a jail somewhere =(
do you really hate him that much for what he has done?
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Mae Jay Yoon  TT, i still love you...
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in some years he'll be back playin charity matches (fixed)
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The guy is a mastermind, our dark lord, ma bonjwa, the Maestro. No doubt he has grand plans and will give us many more great performances, esports or other
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THE SECOND COMING IS SOONER THAN YOU THINK. DO NOT DOUBT THY LORD SAVIOR.
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Probably being a baller somewhere... dealing drugs etc.
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On January 09 2011 04:30 Invictus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2011 03:51 MuffinDude wrote:
Wouldn't the match fixing scandal affect his future career?
I would be surprised if he finds some decent job. apparently hwasin managed to use his looks to get a modelling job. but he probably ain't as in deep shit as savior is in
nope. hwasin went straight to the military.
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savior was actually really good. He was probably in his prime even after 07..
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Ma Bonjwa forever
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Personally i always liked savior cuz his name ma jae yoon i can pick it out of the normal sounding gibberish that korean casting sounds like to a person that knows 0 korean.
Also his hype was always the best although the savior is hitlar bit during the holy war with nal_ra was a bit much
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On January 09 2011 06:13 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2011 04:30 Invictus wrote:On January 09 2011 03:51 MuffinDude wrote:
Wouldn't the match fixing scandal affect his future career?
I would be surprised if he finds some decent job. apparently hwasin managed to use his looks to get a modelling job. but he probably ain't as in deep shit as savior is in nope. hwasin went straight to the military.
Military service, modeling, you can see how one would make that mistake. Wait what?
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On January 09 2011 06:34 Chef wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2011 06:13 GTR wrote:On January 09 2011 04:30 Invictus wrote:On January 09 2011 03:51 MuffinDude wrote:
Wouldn't the match fixing scandal affect his future career?
I would be surprised if he finds some decent job. apparently hwasin managed to use his looks to get a modelling job. but he probably ain't as in deep shit as savior is in nope. hwasin went straight to the military. Military service, modeling, you can see how one would make that mistake. Wait what?
Who do you put on recruitment fliers?
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+ Show Spoiler +On January 09 2011 04:05 Telcontar wrote:
In korea when you do something really embarassing or bad, people tend to go underground. Literally translated 'submerging', they keep to themselves and only keep in touch with family and closest of friends. Given his meteoric fall from grace, i wouldn't be surprised if he has done the same. We probably won't hear anything about this guy for a while longer. Anyways, i don't think he has a future in esports anymore so he'll probably just work on different things.
Seems like this is what he's doing now. Well, let's see whether we hear from him in some months or probably years.
MJY 'was' still one of my favorite progamers and I found it quite funny when the scandal came out. "I'll destroy everyone in 2009" becomes such another meaning haha.
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Well he really did destroy something, unfortunatly his image dont care how bad he is I still like all his game vids. ( mainly the games vs Iris, Midas and how he wrecked nada in finals )
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I'm gonna start a match-fixing league where all players are match-fixers. It'll be the most unpredictable and exciting league in history.
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On January 09 2011 04:55 semantics wrote:
Wax on, wax off!
Yes! It's Daniel-san.
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On January 09 2011 06:41 Zim23 wrote:
I'm gonna start a match-fixing league where all players are match-fixers. It'll be the most unpredictable and exciting league in history.
Better make it a 2v2 leauge. How funny would it be if savior/go.go played hwasan/yarnc, with go.go and yarnc trying to win and savior and hwasan trying to lose.
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I honestly think we won't be ever hearing from him again.
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On January 09 2011 07:32 Lightwip wrote:
I honestly think we won't be ever hearing from him again.
I should report you for this!
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On January 09 2011 03:41 Tonkerchen wrote:Around april '10 he was involved in match fixing scandals just like other progamers like Luxury, Hwasin, YellOw[ArnC], go.go and some more.
It's not "just like."
He played a huge role as one of the two progamer 'brokers' in it, and was responsible for 'recruiting' some of the other progamers into the whole scheme.
On January 09 2011 04:30 Invictus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2011 03:51 MuffinDude wrote:
Wouldn't the match fixing scandal affect his future career?
I would be surprised if he finds some decent job. apparently hwasin managed to use his looks to get a modelling job. but he probably ain't as in deep shit as savior is in
Um, Hwasin's in the army. I posted a 'recent' pic of him a while ago.
The modeling was before the scandal.
![[image loading]](http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/6806/29052905.jpg)
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On January 09 2011 04:30 Chef wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2011 04:05 Telcontar wrote:
In korea when you do something really embarassing or bad, people tend to go underground. Literally translated 'submerging', they keep to themselves and only keep in touch with family and closest of friends. Given his meteoric fall from grace, i wouldn't be surprised if he has done the same. We probably won't hear anything about this guy for a while longer. Anyways, i don't think he has a future in esports anymore so he'll probably just work on different things. If he wrote a book I bet it would still sell tonnes! But I think Jaeyoon is the type to be too humiliated to do so. I got the impression he was a good guy and was really suffering with everything in his interviews. Something tells me an in depth version of his side of the story would incur sympathy from me.
Indeed, rich and famous but still wanted more, so tried to drag the sport that got him where he was down into the mud to get it. Truly deserving of sympathy.
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I'm not gonna lie. I was waiting for the day for him to win an OSL/MSL and bump this thread.
"I believed. I still believe. I will always believe."
It would probably be a spoiler since it would have been right after he won.........hypothetically....sigh.
He made me the SC fanatic that I am today. MJY T_T
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On January 09 2011 05:38 etheovermind wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2011 05:35 PanN wrote:
I was hoping he was in a jail somewhere =( do you really hate him that much for what he has done?
I do.
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sAviOr was the greatest zerg of all time.
and the greates m****f**** of all players =P
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Not really curious about whereabouts of Ma-trash. Contrary to other players involved in scandal, there wasn't single redeeming quality about his participation. Had to post this since surprising number of players seem to feel sympathy.
Man, it feels like it happened such a long time ago but the event was felt uniformly by community as perfect betrayal at the time. Very emotional.
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On January 09 2011 04:55 semantics wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2011 04:49 nK)Duke wrote:
he's probably dealing with rolex and other fancy stuff :D old old old pic but a fun one
After his fall from grace here as a well-established bookie, nowadays he could probably only find employment under the new don Action as a mid-level enforcer.
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On January 09 2011 08:40 PH wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2011 05:38 etheovermind wrote:On January 09 2011 05:35 PanN wrote:
I was hoping he was in a jail somewhere =( do you really hate him that much for what he has done? I do.
I'd feel more sympathy for some of the other progamers, but not Savior.
Like... how about Yellow? YellOw[ArnC] didn't throw a single match. He had denied the offer initially. It was found out that he had even told Justin not to get him involved in something like this again. He put a sincere apology up. He still lost his license.
Savior, on the other hand... He's the one who 'recommended' match-fixing to several other progamers. He denied everything at first, claiming that he had not directly approached any of the progamers but just casually suggested it and passed on information. He emphasized that he was not directly involved in the betting, which is why he got an extremely lenient punishment. Unlike the other progamers who had made one terrible mistake, he didn't put up an apology until two months later. He backstabbed his coach - the guy who trusted him until the end and ended up voluntarily resigning and quitting esports. This is the guy who used his own personal money to buy uniforms for his team, btw.+ Show Spoiler +Coach Cho Kyuu Nam:
Savior plays well in practice, but he never performed when playing in actual games.
He buys a lot of brand items nowadays, maybe his mental state isn't very healthy?
I was thinking this when Investigators started investigating.
When this happened, Savior went on his knees and said.
"Coach, It's really not me. Please believe me"
Savior who was already suffering from his lack of performance was also being swept by this...
So I took him out of the roster, put him on a sick leave and told him to go home and rest.
ON the internet, there are terrible people who are spreading rumors that Savior is the criminal.
Those Fomos bastards even used Savior's silhouette on their pictures.
Things died down when I told everyone that It is 100% not savior and that I will sue anyone who spreads rumors.
When all of this is over, Savior will finally resurrect. Fighting.
Where is there any possibility of redemption here?
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sAviOr and others guys doesnt deserve Jail, their life are destroyed just like it is right now and jail will be so unnecessary for em.
I would be happy to know what is doing the Maestro right now, I will always support him <3!
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Also Exactly This
On January 09 2011 08:30 JIJIyO wrote:I'm not gonna lie. I was waiting for the day for him to win an OSL/MSL and bump this thread. "I believed. I still believe. I will always believe." It would probably be a spoiler since it would have been right after he won.........hypothetically....sigh. He made me the SC fanatic that I am today. MJY T_T
I joined Teamliquid just last year but I visit it since 2007 I just used to lurk a lot but I knew the broodwar scene thanks to savior and naturally knew teamliquid by him.
He was my inspiration for play broodwar and love it, just like the way I do it now.
The most baller player of all time!! I wont never forget sAviOr, always in my heart MJY!!
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There was nothing like being up at like 2 am watching a crappy quality p2p stream with classic intermissions playing american rock music where a guy has a scream.
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On January 09 2011 06:11 CanucksJC wrote:
Probably being a baller somewhere... dealing drugs etc.
don't forget the whoring
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On January 09 2011 09:14 yoonyoon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2011 08:40 PH wrote:On January 09 2011 05:38 etheovermind wrote:On January 09 2011 05:35 PanN wrote:
I was hoping he was in a jail somewhere =( do you really hate him that much for what he has done? I do. I'd feel more sympathy for some of the other progamers, but not Savior. Like... how about Yellow? YellOw[ArnC] didn't throw a single match. He had denied the offer initially. It was found out that he had even told Justin not to get him involved in something like this again. He put a sincere apology up. He still lost his license. Savior, on the other hand... He's the one who 'recommended' match-fixing to several other progamers. He denied everything at first, claiming that he had not directly approached any of the progamers but just casually suggested it and passed on information. He emphasized that he was not directly involved in the betting, which is why he got an extremely lenient punishment. Unlike the other progamers who had made one terrible mistake, he didn't put up an apology until two months later. He backstabbed his coach - the guy who trusted him until the end and ended up voluntarily resigning and quitting esports. This is the guy who used his own personal money to buy uniforms for his team, btw. + Show Spoiler +Coach Cho Kyuu Nam:
Savior plays well in practice, but he never performed when playing in actual games.
He buys a lot of brand items nowadays, maybe his mental state isn't very healthy?
I was thinking this when Investigators started investigating.
When this happened, Savior went on his knees and said.
"Coach, It's really not me. Please believe me"
Savior who was already suffering from his lack of performance was also being swept by this...
So I took him out of the roster, put him on a sick leave and told him to go home and rest.
ON the internet, there are terrible people who are spreading rumors that Savior is the criminal.
Those Fomos bastards even used Savior's silhouette on their pictures.
Things died down when I told everyone that It is 100% not savior and that I will sue anyone who spreads rumors.
When all of this is over, Savior will finally resurrect. Fighting. Where is there any possibility of redemption here?
Koreans get butthurt for the slightest of things, i never ever really saw koreans forgiving people for breaking laws no matter how small.
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On January 09 2011 08:28 Balfazar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2011 04:30 Chef wrote:On January 09 2011 04:05 Telcontar wrote:
In korea when you do something really embarassing or bad, people tend to go underground. Literally translated 'submerging', they keep to themselves and only keep in touch with family and closest of friends. Given his meteoric fall from grace, i wouldn't be surprised if he has done the same. We probably won't hear anything about this guy for a while longer. Anyways, i don't think he has a future in esports anymore so he'll probably just work on different things. If he wrote a book I bet it would still sell tonnes! But I think Jaeyoon is the type to be too humiliated to do so. I got the impression he was a good guy and was really suffering with everything in his interviews. Something tells me an in depth version of his side of the story would incur sympathy from me. Indeed, rich and famous but still wanted more, so tried to drag the sport that got him where he was down into the mud to get it. Truly deserving of sympathy.
I think that's way over-simplification. Wasn't it found out that he was just a go between, not actually involved in rigging matches? Much more, players that were involved were begging him? After reading his interviews, I got the impression he had some kind of inferiority complex. He was always talking about how he wanted to be cool and especially in his interview with boxer, they both related to the nerd to famous impact on their lives. For a kid that age, hanging out in the wrong crowds might have seemed pretty cool. I mean how many people think it's cool that Rekrul plays poker with shady characters (though of course he does so for fun, not to take their money)? It seems to me Savior was a person desperate for approval, which fueled his desire to win, but also caused him to do things he really shouldn't.
Of course he shouldn't have done it. Of course players shouldn't have asked him to do it. But dangerous people can be very influencing on one's behaviour... You get involved with that kind of stuff, it's hard to get out, just like Jackie Chan in Shinjuku Incident ^^
I 100% agree with his ban from playing in the leagues. I'm one of his biggest fans and I really liked him and was affected emotionally by his games. Seeing him slump was really depressing. Seeing him win one game or show good play in a game he lost really got me excited. He was a good player, and nobody can deny that. I think he wasn't a bad person, which could be debated. I think punishing him as a deterrent to future players who might think about it is also important. I'm not a Crim major so I don't know how effective deterrents are in a situation like this (I guess they're probably useless, given the deterrent of being shunned was already obvious), but to do nothing would have at very least been even worse for the image of eSports. However, I think only a few months later, we've forgiven the scene and people know this is just something all sports go thru at some point on their way to becoming something monstrously popular.
edit: not to mention if anything caused his slump, don't you think it might have been guilt for what he'd done? Maybe, maybe not, but it's something that'd be really interesting to read about if it were the case  A sort of moral tale about how doing bad things destroys one from the inside before you're even caught. So yeah, don't be so simple minded.
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On January 09 2011 04:30 Invictus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2011 03:51 MuffinDude wrote:
Wouldn't the match fixing scandal affect his future career?
I would be surprised if he finds some decent job. apparently hwasin managed to use his looks to get a modelling job. but he probably ain't as in deep shit as savior is in
Wtf, how did hwasin of all people get a modeling job? I mean, i guess he might have a little resemblence to Lee jun ki, but hwasing looked more like a rat. I mean, I know he's in the military now, but how did he get a modeling job type thing before it?
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All I have to say is that any future tournament (foreign or Korean) that would allow the match-fixers to participate will immediately lose all legitimacy in my eyes. These guys don't deserve to make any more money/fame off of Starcraft.
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On January 09 2011 10:59 Tazza wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2011 04:30 Invictus wrote:On January 09 2011 03:51 MuffinDude wrote:
Wouldn't the match fixing scandal affect his future career?
I would be surprised if he finds some decent job. apparently hwasin managed to use his looks to get a modelling job. but he probably ain't as in deep shit as savior is in Wtf, how did hwasin of all people get a modeling job? I mean, i guess he might have a little resemblence to Lee jun ki, but hwasing looked more like a rat. I mean, I know he's in the military now, but how did he get a modeling job type thing before it?
Are you kidding?
Hwasin is widely considered in Korea one of the most attractive progamers. Girls used to go CRAZY for him.
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I was really shocked to hear the matchmaking scandal and that Savior my favorite progamer (forever and ever) was one of the masterminds behind.
Haha, I feel sorry for the guy that he gets this much shit over entertainment. I can understand why he big wigs would be really pissed but the regular fans? Chill. It is just entertainment.
But gawd...this thread made me watch all of his highlight videos and get chills all over seeing him organize the barbaric zerg in such a well coordinated manner and hearing all the cheers and seeing the large crowds. That was the Golden Age of Brood War for me :D
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On January 09 2011 09:46 semantics wrote:
There was nothing like being up at like 2 am watching a crappy quality p2p stream with classic intermissions playing american rock music where a guy has a scream.
Quoted for truth. Streaming is taken for granted these days :p
sAviOr forever.
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He should get plastic surgery, change his name, come back and dominate the GSL.
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On January 09 2011 11:46 tomatriedes wrote:
He should get plastic surgery, change his name, come back and dominate the GSL.
He will DESTROY SC2 
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But HOW? There are no defilers in sc2 .
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agree with Chef that he was trying to be a cool dude, but on the other hand I don't like what he did with the coach..
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On January 09 2011 08:40 PH wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2011 05:38 etheovermind wrote:On January 09 2011 05:35 PanN wrote:
I was hoping he was in a jail somewhere =( do you really hate him that much for what he has done? I do.
Yeah, considering that his defense was that he didn't actually participate in match fixing himself (and only introduced other players to the concept) it makes it look as if he knew it was wrong but got his fellow players involved anyways.
No sympathy at all, especially when he was already a star and making good money.
@Chef, when his claim that others asked him to do it is taken in isolation, perhaps one might believe it, but when combined with how he approached and reacted to the situation, I'm far more inclined to believe others' claims that he was the one who introduced the idea to players, rather than the other way around.
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Let's just bump this thread after five years? :p
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etheovermind United States. January 09 2011 05:38
Show nested quote +On January 09 2011 05:35 PanN wrote:
I was hoping he was in a jail somewhere =( do you really hate him that much for what he has done?
actually, this might surprise some, but not everyone in korea knows saviour. starcraft is big but among a certain age group. still, being shamed in korea is a huge matter. im not sure if hes started community time, but if he does, im sure he'll be in some disguise, perhaps a beard and orange hair! LOL. im sure we wont hear from him for a long time
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On January 09 2011 12:26 Licmyobelisk wrote:
agree with Chef that he was trying to be a cool dude, but on the other hand I don't like what he did with the coach..
Yeah, that's definitely very sad and painful to read. I think everyone has low points in their life where they do completely shameful things... the difference is Ma Jae-yoons was publicized. It's the type of thing that would make a story interesting, but in reality is so hurtful. Savior is definitely a complicated person. You can't get that good at a game without real dedication, so it's not like he didn't know the meaning of work ethic... It's just that he wasn't the god capable of resisting all sin. Like I said, it's a story I'm interested in and wish there was more information on.
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*sigh* I think after bisu he just lost his love of the game...as much of a savior fan I am I don't think he threw those games.
it's too bad savior couldn't try sc2, I'd liked to have seen him play it. Always had pretty godly game sense, just let his mechanics slip in later years.
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On January 09 2011 14:45 blankspace wrote:
...as much of a savior fan I am I don't think he threw those games.
Er, that just proves how much of a fan of him you are.
It's nearly undeniable he threw games. All evidence points to it. He's pretty damned guilty.
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On January 09 2011 15:13 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2011 14:45 blankspace wrote:
...as much of a savior fan I am I don't think he threw those games.
Er, that just proves how much of a fan of him you are. It's nearly undeniable he threw games. All evidence points to it. He's pretty damned guilty.
There's actually not enough evidence that he threw games. He organized it so that other players threw their games, but there's little, if any, evidence he threw his own games.
Also with respect to what Savior is up to -- from what I've heard around on the internet he's studying english to study abroad or something
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I didn't mean he didn't throw any games, just the ones vs Bisu. Cuz if he did actually purposely go 0-3 that means he would've had a chance at winning if he had tried.
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On January 09 2011 14:26 Chef wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2011 12:26 Licmyobelisk wrote:
agree with Chef that he was trying to be a cool dude, but on the other hand I don't like what he did with the coach.. Yeah, that's definitely very sad and painful to read. I think everyone has low points in their life where they do completely shameful things... the difference is Ma Jae-yoons was publicized. It's the type of thing that would make a story interesting, but in reality is so hurtful. Savior is definitely a complicated person. You can't get that good at a game without real dedication, so it's not like he didn't know the meaning of work ethic... It's just that he wasn't the god capable of resisting all sin. Like I said, it's a story I'm interested in and wish there was more information on.
That was something made up by a netizen. Not really a true account of what happened.
On January 10 2011 00:08 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2011 15:13 Comeh wrote:On January 09 2011 14:45 blankspace wrote:
...as much of a savior fan I am I don't think he threw those games.
Er, that just proves how much of a fan of him you are. It's nearly undeniable he threw games. All evidence points to it. He's pretty damned guilty. There's actually not enough evidence that he threw games. He organized it so that other players threw their games, but there's little, if any, evidence he threw his own games. Also with respect to what Savior is up to -- from what I've heard around on the internet he's studying english to study abroad or something
Come to Canada so we can study togetherrrrrrrrrrrr!
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On January 10 2011 00:21 blankspace wrote:
I didn't mean he didn't throw any games, just the ones vs Bisu. Cuz if he did actually purposely go 0-3 that means he would've had a chance at winning if he had tried.
Rereading this thread and feeling really depressed, I come across someone who clearly has no idea what he's talking about.
Just made me feel even more depressed x_x
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Uh what, I said that Savior definitely didn't throw the msl finals against bisu. Do you think that he did?
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On May 27 2011 13:16 blankspace wrote:
Uh what, I said that Savior definitely didn't throw the msl finals against bisu. Do you think that he did?
To be fair, it was worded very confusingly.
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Oh ok nvm, the grammar made me think that you thought that he threw those matches x_x
The awesome tl article made me remember how sad i was all over again and ive been watching his replays and stuff all over again .__.
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how did you come to realize that someone quoted something you said 4 months ago??
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Because after reading the savior fe article, I was browsing the blogs and saw that a mjy thread had come up. Curious, I went to the last page and saw the bump which explicitly quoted me.
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It has been more than 10 years since saviour match fixing. Anyone knows about him nowadays?
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