A few months ago, Arb grabbed his revenge over Pokebunny in their third grudge match and as punishment Pokebunny has been walking around the halls of TeamLiquid with a perma-SCV icon. Pokebunny is now sick of this icon and has vowed for the right to earn it back. With arb going inactive and Pokebunny training like a mad thing, no one thinks it's fair for a fourth grudge match between the two decide the fate of Poke's SCV.
Long story short, after Pokebunny insulted my honour;
It's onnnnnn
The Players:
Plexa: Loving admin, moderator and slave driver for TeamLiquid. Used to write a ton of shit, but has been distracted by SC2 lately.
The stakes: - If Pokebunny wins 10-0 or 9-1 his icon will be reverted back to the default setting - If Pokebunny wins 8-2 or worse he must record himself singing the banelings song
When?: 3rd January 8pm EST, 4th January 10am KST
Stream?: Boes! Unless he's working.
Poll: Result?
Pokebunny sings Banelings (315)
80%
Pokebunny has icon reset (79)
20%
394 total votes
Your vote: Result?
(Vote): Pokebunny sings Banelings (Vote): Pokebunny has icon reset
Pokebunny should have come out with 7 wins, and bargained to an 8...
9 wins is too steep...is he that much better than Plexa? Nonetheless, I'm cheering for poke because I hope he can get an icon reset. I thought he had a perma-SCV long before that arb grudgematch though o___o
i love how everyone wants a piece of pokebunny now. This guy lost to arb so he's obviously trash. Anyways i can't wait to hear the banelings song in his voice.
On January 01 2011 12:48 Zelniq wrote: i still think the so many banelings extended ver. would be more interesting/unique than a justin bieber parody song
if plexa loses he should reverse roles with pokebunny and get the perma scv icon! it'd make things more interesting if plexa had something to lose haha
well then not only is this page bookmarked but it has been added to my events in my outlook calendar. I love these grudgematches among non pros since they are often very very fun to watch. Good luck plexa lets keep this T from advancing past SCV.
On January 01 2011 16:20 Ares[EffOrt] wrote: Plexa more training games tomorrow lets do it
fosure
On January 01 2011 18:23 Comeh wrote: This heavily depends on how much plexa practices - he should be able to steal some games via cheese if he practices hard enough.
I am the only Protoss who can't 4gate.
On January 02 2011 01:11 Necosarius wrote: Grudge matches!! <3 I will be rooting for Plexa because of his I Loved Victory articles
On January 02 2011 03:19 Pokebunny wrote: I'm surprised people have so little faith in me.
For some reason I typed out a post an hour ago in another tab and never submitted it. Basically it said, "I think Pokebunny can do it: he plays a lot of SC2."
Man, I can't not support Plexa. We share a birthday and are the same age, and he has always been my favourite mod. Plexa, when you win you should record a Superior wolf style analysis video.
On January 02 2011 11:15 SkyLegenD wrote: An SCV and 5588...
Am I the only one who doesn't get it lol
As your post count/time on TL increases, you get icons which represent higher points in the tech tree of the respective race you choose. If you chose your race to be zerg, it goes drone --> ling --> hydra etc..At pokebunny's post count he should be a tank or something. but hes chobo so hes an scv.
On January 02 2011 11:15 SkyLegenD wrote: An SCV and 5588...
Am I the only one who doesn't get it lol
As your post count/time on TL increases, you get icons which represent higher points in the tech tree of the respective race you choose. If you chose your race to be zerg, it goes drone --> ling --> hydra etc..At pokebunny's post count he should be a tank or something. but hes chobo so hes an scv.
On January 02 2011 03:19 Pokebunny wrote: I'm surprised people have so little faith in me.
I want to hear singing and humiliation.
Speaking of scv icons, whats the story behind yours?
mine is not a mark of humiliation but of choice and pride. Not that much of a story. Just a time where people on tl asked for icons and everyone who asked for one was given a drone/scv/probe. I thought it was cool having a scv so I asked for it.
On January 02 2011 12:26 Z3kk wrote: If you change races, your icon won't be reset, right? I've always wondered this and have been too scared to try it out myself...><
that and the SCV are permanent thats what the stakes were
wtf is this EDIT: mine was only supposed to be like a month or two from our 1st or 2nd grudgematch but i keep mine as a reminder not to lose to poke again
changing his icon is taking away the only thing i have left
How long do these series usually last, and will all 10 games be played out if pokebunny drops 2 before the 10th game? I'm weighing whether I have enough to time to watch it tomorrow. ><
On January 03 2011 10:22 Z3kk wrote: So tomorrow at 5 pm PST for me
How long do these series usually last, and will all 10 games be played out if pokebunny drops 2 before the 10th game? I'm weighing whether I have enough to time to watch it tomorrow. ><
That is a good question. I hope 10 games are to be played regardless of the result.
Pokebunny heres a tip, just tell Plexa about how bad Pusan is/was, he will then give you a lecture on why Pusan was so great, then you will stomp him...worked for me ^^.
On January 04 2011 09:14 Pholon wrote: bnet might offline? noes D:
destroyed my sleep schedule for this!
sleep is for pussies.
also if battlenet is not working, start to pay rich insert strange code into blizzard games.
like, padawans dont belong here like, you dont read the 10 comandements darth vader like, if you enter a dorm, masturbate like, if your dorm already belongs to blizzard, dont mast because you are happy like, offline
On January 04 2011 10:05 Alaric wrote: -orb-'s stream's lagging for me. Is anyone else streaming this? Could always gts and watch the VODs later, but it just wouldn't be the same.
Regarding the stream and commentator, I would enjoy it more if you stopped spamming mouse clicks while casting. Also smoother screen movement would make it more enjoyable to watch. Also pay more attention to the minimap. You missed the doubledrop at the end of the Steps of War-game.
Otherwise I like your style and your voice just my 2c
So far Plexa makes me think he's too kind to force Poke to sing. Well, I'm glad i coincidentally woke up at 1AM though and I'm rooting for Poke anyways edit: 4-0, just 5 more ;P
yeah 6 - 0 atm its kinda sad since plexa totally had that game had he just backed up with the bigger army and teched instead of giving it away or you know making more units and reinforcing.
Was getting the icon back really worth all of the entertainment that the song would have brought? I want to hear someone awkwardly sing that song, dammit.
He was never realy far ahead in game 9 after bunny defended the first attack he still had 2xCC makeing scv's and 2xmule and had a better income even if Plexa expanded faster. Yes he could have done better and defended the last attack but that wouldnt put him ahead since he was behind in workers.
On January 04 2011 12:13 TaKemE wrote: He was never realy far ahead in game 9 after bunny defended the first attack he still had 2xCC makeing scv's and 2xmule and had a better income even if Plexa expanded faster. Yes he could have done better and defended the last attack but that wouldnt put him ahead since he was behind in workers.
That's what I was worried about =/ his OC didn't die and idk why I thought running up his ramp was a good idea. Should have just planted some ffs, teched and recovered my probe numbers.
On January 04 2011 12:13 TaKemE wrote: He was never realy far ahead in game 9 after bunny defended the first attack he still had 2xCC makeing scv's and 2xmule and had a better income even if Plexa expanded faster. Yes he could have done better and defended the last attack but that wouldnt put him ahead since he was behind in workers.
Or he could have just walked in with his army and killed everything before the bunker went up... After killing that many terran units with FF traps, you can snowball your advantage. It's one of those things that you learn from game sense after playing enough PvT, when enough damage is enough...
I'm disappointed in Plexa. I originally thought Pokebunny would sweep the series so the result isn't the problem. I'm just upset with you throwing away games after you had the advantage.
On January 04 2011 12:13 TaKemE wrote: He was never realy far ahead in game 9 after bunny defended the first attack he still had 2xCC makeing scv's and 2xmule and had a better income even if Plexa expanded faster. Yes he could have done better and defended the last attack but that wouldnt put him ahead since he was behind in workers.
Or he could have just walked in with his army and killed everything before the bunker went up... After killing that many terran units with FF traps, you can snowball your advantage. It's one of those things that you learn from game sense after playing enough PvT, when enough damage is enough...
I never 4gate. Evereverever. Perhaps out of all my 1000+ games played I've 4gated about 10 times. But yea, I'm terrible.
On January 04 2011 12:17 Durak wrote: I'm disappointed in Plexa. I originally thought Pokebunny would sweep the series so the result isn't the problem. I'm just upset with you throwing away games after you had the advantage.
On January 04 2011 12:17 Durak wrote: I'm disappointed in Plexa. I originally thought Pokebunny would sweep the series so the result isn't the problem. I'm just upset with you throwing away games after you had the advantage.
Me too yo
Me too
At least it shows that you can improve your play significantly with only a few fixes. I'll be waiting for something to spark Plexa-Poke grudgematch 2.0
On January 04 2011 12:13 TaKemE wrote: He was never realy far ahead in game 9 after bunny defended the first attack he still had 2xCC makeing scv's and 2xmule and had a better income even if Plexa expanded faster. Yes he could have done better and defended the last attack but that wouldnt put him ahead since he was behind in workers.
Or he could have just walked in with his army and killed everything before the bunker went up... After killing that many terran units with FF traps, you can snowball your advantage. It's one of those things that you learn from game sense after playing enough PvT, when enough damage is enough...
I never 4gate. Evereverever. Perhaps out of all my 1000+ games played I've 4gated about 10 times. But yea, I'm terrible.
You had the same problem in game 6 where you overestimated the ability for terran to recover from losing half his army and held off :S
On January 04 2011 12:17 Durak wrote: I'm disappointed in Plexa. I originally thought Pokebunny would sweep the series so the result isn't the problem. I'm just upset with you throwing away games after you had the advantage.
Me too yo
Me too
At least it shows that you can improve your play significantly with only a few fixes. I'll be waiting for something to spark Plexa-Poke grudgematch 2.0
Yeah I'll be working on those... it didn't help that I hadn't played for about two weeks preior to three days ago. I guess massing 120 odd games wasn't enough T_T.
I figure if I didn't play stupid in the first 4 games I might've had a better shot.
On January 04 2011 12:17 Durak wrote: I'm disappointed in Plexa. I originally thought Pokebunny would sweep the series so the result isn't the problem. I'm just upset with you throwing away games after you had the advantage.
Me too yo
Me too
At least it shows that you can improve your play significantly with only a few fixes. I'll be waiting for something to spark Plexa-Poke grudgematch 2.0
Yeah I'll be working on those... it didn't help that I hadn't played for about two weeks preior to three days ago. I guess massing 120 odd games wasn't enough T_T.
I figure if I didn't play stupid in the first 4 games I might've had a better shot.
bah
You'll just need to practice more and you'll do better. I saw a marked improvement over the course of the games really.
On January 04 2011 12:24 Kojak21 wrote: u really like pulling ur probes alot lol, in the 9th game u pulled like all of them when u didnt really need to, just shoulda microd your units better
Yeah my friend msg'd me after the game and was like "wtf why did you pull all your probes he had NOTHING" and i was like doh -.-
On January 04 2011 12:17 Durak wrote: I'm disappointed in Plexa. I originally thought Pokebunny would sweep the series so the result isn't the problem. I'm just upset with you throwing away games after you had the advantage.
Me too yo
Me too
At least it shows that you can improve your play significantly with only a few fixes. I'll be waiting for something to spark Plexa-Poke grudgematch 2.0
Yeah I'll be working on those... it didn't help that I hadn't played for about two weeks preior to three days ago. I guess massing 120 odd games wasn't enough T_T.
I figure if I didn't play stupid in the first 4 games I might've had a better shot.
bah
You'll just need to practice more and you'll do better. I saw a marked improvement over the course of the games really.
On January 04 2011 12:25 Zim23 wrote: The bigger story should be how serious Pokebunny played. No fun times at all? Not a single nuke? Oh and Plexa I needed some cannon rushes in my life
The only map which is good for cannon rush is Metalopolis, and only when the spawns are close. Otherwise it comes too slow. I played about 15-20 practice cannon rushes against Corinthos and we came to that conclusion. In game 6 I got close positions but after my cheese failed in the first 4 games, I decided that playing standard would be better - especially since Ares[effort] msg'd me after the 5th game saying that if I had countered instead of defending I would have been in a really good position. So I felt that a standard game would have been better.
And damn
I was close I actually took this so seriously (which I shouldn't really be admitting, since I lost). But I can read pokebunny like a book now. Every game I knew exactly what he was doing, except for the xnaga caverns games - that's a new build. Basically Pokebunny's tells are this:
1 Marine -> Tech Lab -> 2rax maramarine poke into expand 0 Marine -> Tech Lab -> 1rax mara concussive (sometimes poking) into expand 2 Marine -> Teching
If pokebunny techs he has two main builds -> Thor Rush -> countered by DT -> Hellion drop into Banshee -> countered by DT
Hence why on the first Xnaga caverns game when I saw 2 marines I knew he was teching and I instantly proxy DTd. That build is timed so that DTs will win the game against either of Poke's builds but a) he scouted it (wtf? you never scout) b) he did a build I hadn't seen before
Further on the 2nd xnaga game he did the same timing push (which is a good push btw) and took me out. If he had played 2rax expo then I would have been in a better position and it mightve looked more like game 6 (that MC build is super strong on xnaga due to the wide nat).
the game where you were close spawns on metalopolis, you did some AMAZING forcefields and killed his units while he was going to your base, I really loved those forcefields, but then you just simply threw away your advantage and overextended yourself T.T... I was about to cry because of that game! if you need help on PvT or something you could PM me I'm not that good (2700~) but I would be happy to help since PvT is my best MU =D.
On January 04 2011 12:30 PaPoolee wrote: the game where you were close spawns on metalopolis, you did some AMAZING forcefields and killed his units while he was going to your base, I really loved those forcefields, but then you just simply threw away your advantage and overextended yourself T.T... I was about to cry because of that game! if you need help on PvT or something you could PM me I'm not that good (2700~) but I would be happy to help since PvT is my best MU =D.
That's probably around my level, since all my practice partners were around 2700 and I had a pretty good success rate against them. They gave up so much of their time for me, I'm so appreciative of it, sorry for letting you guys down
On January 04 2011 12:13 TaKemE wrote: He was never realy far ahead in game 9 after bunny defended the first attack he still had 2xCC makeing scv's and 2xmule and had a better income even if Plexa expanded faster. Yes he could have done better and defended the last attack but that wouldnt put him ahead since he was behind in workers.
Or he could have just walked in with his army and killed everything before the bunker went up... After killing that many terran units with FF traps, you can snowball your advantage. It's one of those things that you learn from game sense after playing enough PvT, when enough damage is enough...
I never 4gate. Evereverever. Perhaps out of all my 1000+ games played I've 4gated about 10 times. But yea, I'm terrible.
You should spend a month on Korean ladder. I really don't get what's people's problem with 4 gate.
Sure, it requires some decent skill to execute well, but at 2k diamond you should be capable. :p
EPT
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Plexa/pokebunny2.png)
Plexa: Loving admin, moderator and slave driver for TeamLiquid. Used to write a ton of shit, but has been distracted by SC2 lately. 
VTPokebunny: Some kid who got semi-good at this game. 
He'll probably win most, but not almost all.
... pokebunny, i dont really know you, but i hope u get crushed just so u have to sing that song...
