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Zilean school of ass-kicking.

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Neobick
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden208 Posts
December 27 2010 22:35 GMT
#1
http://web.archive.org/

If you got no life take a hike with me.
Down memory lane, its free.

Well I have recently started spending time researching the development of the broodwar scene. Player such as Zileas, who had a page listing popular strats back then. Check em out. You clearly notice how old school this is with entries such as this right here. In this article he defines new school starcraft as more micro intensive and old school starcraft as macro-focused. Quite much has changed since then.

Zileas opinions of the greatest foreigner of all time.

"Grrrrrr -- If anyone is 100% old school, its him. Seldom do you see grrr using many spellcasters, but often do you see 50 mutalisks. His build orders and such all revolve around extreme ammounts of power, and milking out that extra bit of minerals everywhere you can -- and I think he focuses on this greatly." Old-school even back then.

Other interesting articles.

An other article has zileas laying out the foundation of worker harass. Here!
"With this sort of info, you can often make decisions as to if reaver dropping, or mutasacrificing to kill drones/probes/scvs is really cost effecient." I have no idea if he was a pioneer or if this was the general way of thinking back then as well.

Zileas guide to the most popular strategies of the day.
"Currently on battle.net I'd have to say the most popular strats at the moment among ladder players are:
1)Hydra Powering with Super Early Expansion on rushable maps
2)Muta rushing on ladder maps
2)Reaver Rush
3)Guardian Rushing (on islands vs terran or toss)
4)My various protoss island strats for protoss islands>
5)Tank Pushes"

All this is very interesting. Can somebody who know more about this than me explain more about this Zileas guy. Was he a pioneer or just the combat-x of the day?

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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16971 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-27 22:45:09
December 27 2010 22:42 GMT
#2
Zileas was a very well-known gamer back before patch 1.08 came out and introduced replays. This was before 2002, mind you.

Wasn't he the one who was responsible for popularizing Reaver drops?

EDIT: Haha, reading through some of his old stuff makes me chuckle (in the way a math TA chuckles when he sees someone attempting to divide matrices). It's both charming and face-palmy at the same time XD. The advice is so bad by today's standards, but I suppose would've been great for way back when.
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Neobick
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden208 Posts
December 27 2010 23:09 GMT
#3
On December 28 2010 07:42 Empyrean wrote:
Zileas was a very well-known gamer back before patch 1.08 came out and introduced replays. This was before 2002, mind you.

Wasn't he the one who was responsible for popularizing Reaver drops?

EDIT: Haha, reading through some of his old stuff makes me chuckle (in the way a math TA chuckles when he sees someone attempting to divide matrices). It's both charming and face-palmy at the same time XD. The advice is so bad by today's standards, but I suppose would've been great for way back when.



There is much more than the articles I wrote about, some article about terran strategy where he argued that vultures wasnt totally useless and stuff close to that. Didnt know the wayback-machine could be this fun. And thanks for the clarification. If he was a top player I guess most of what he wrote described the game in this time period. Im back to reading more now!
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Typhon
Profile Joined July 2009
United States387 Posts
December 27 2010 23:39 GMT
#4
obligatory liquipedia article: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Zileas

graduated from MIT
worked at blizzard until 2005
currently Design Director for LoL
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
December 28 2010 01:56 GMT
#5
irc he was the reason blizzard made reaver scarabs have a build time. originally when you loaded them into a shuttle they "reset" their attack cooldown, resulting in insane micro. not sure if thats true or not though.
TossFloss *
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-28 03:44:54
December 28 2010 03:44 GMT
#6
On December 28 2010 10:56 killerdog wrote:
irc he was the reason blizzard made reaver scarabs have a build time. originally when you loaded them into a shuttle they "reset" their attack cooldown, resulting in insane micro. not sure if thats true or not though.


Sacarabs always had a build time. Originally, any unit could fire immediately after unloading from a shuttle. Come patch 1.04 units unloading from a transport had to wait before firing.
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